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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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So, not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but uh... This:
BoneyM said:
6. No Magister may cast a spell or enchantment outside of the theatre of war and in public view without first being requested to by the Emperor, the Electors of Sigmar's Holy Empire, or another legitimate employer as defined by the Articles of this document. All spells and enchantments cast without these permission may only be done so with and for demonstrably good reason.
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Which means we would probably have to ask permission from the Emperor himself to use our MAP spell. That Miiiight be a problem? I'm not sure if he's paying quite that much attention. Maybe Heidi could suffice?
 
Ericwinter said:
So, not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but uh... This:

Which means we would probably have to ask permission from the Emperor himself to use our MAP spell. That Miiiight be a problem? I'm not sure if he's paying quite that much attention. Maybe Heidi could suffice?
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I'm reliably sure that our employer in this case is the Grey College (or the Colleges of Magic in their entirety, depends on how the request to hold a lecture was worded and who signed it) and we do have permission. The scope of "legitimate employer" is very wide, and was clarified in the past as pretty much everybody, up to and including the local baker.
 
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Ericwinter said:
So, not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but uh... This:

Which means we would probably have to ask permission from the Emperor himself to use our MAP spell. That Miiiight be a problem? I'm not sure if he's paying quite that much attention. Maybe Heidi could suffice?
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"Or another legitimate employer" is key here. The Colleges definitely count as "legitimate employer", and a private lecture on magic hardly counts as "public view."


It happened to me. I was Webered.
 
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Ericwinter said:
So, not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but uh... This:

Which means we would probably have to ask permission from the Emperor himself to use our MAP spell. That Miiiight be a problem? I'm not sure if he's paying quite that much attention. Maybe Heidi could suffice?
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We're employed by perfectly legitimate institution for this lecture, so it's not a problem.
 
Ericwinter said:
So, not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but uh... This:

Which means we would probably have to ask permission from the Emperor himself to use our MAP spell. That Miiiight be a problem? I'm not sure if he's paying quite that much attention. Maybe Heidi could suffice?
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BoneyM said:
Article 6 specifically says legitimateemployer as defined by the articles. Article 12 defined legitimate employers and does so very broadly. Wizards are not slaves of the state. If they want to work for a farmer or barkeep, they can, including being able to use magic for that work.
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I am pretty sure being a guest lecturer at the Collages of Magic counts for employment. If not our actual employer Belknor gave us permission to attend and use our magic as we see fit.
 
Ericwinter said:
So, not to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but uh... This:

Which means we would probably have to ask permission from the Emperor himself to use our MAP spell. That Miiiight be a problem? I'm not sure if he's paying quite that much attention. Maybe Heidi could suffice?
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What the entities above me said. We also have demonstratively good reason.
 
Kornet said:
I'm reliably sure that our employer in this case is the Grey College (or the Colleges of Magic in their entirety, depends on how the request to hold a lecture was worded and who signed it) and we do have permission. The scope of "legitimate employer" is very wide, and was clarified in the past as pretty much everybody, up to and including the local baker.
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Tealg said:
"Or another legitimate employer" is key here. The Colleges definitely count as "legitimate employer", and a private lecture on magic hardly counts as "public view."


It happened to me. I was Webered.
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vsh said:
We're employed by perfectly legitimate institution for this lecture, so it's not a problem.
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Night said:
Conveniently, as a Knight of Stirland, we would appear to be a legitimate employer for ourselves as defined in the document.
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Eldon said:
I am pretty sure being a guest lecturer at the Collages of Magic counts for employment. If not our actual employer Belknor gave us permission to attend and use our magic as we see fit.
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Quest said:
What the entities above me said. We also have demonstratively good reason.
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Fair enough, although I could dispute what qualifies as a public venue, considering there's at least a few not-mages in the crowd, and we're in a named stage meant to host orchestras that the College of Altdorf was reluctant to give up. But eh, that's semantics.
 
SCO said:
Hedge-wise Tzeentch is just as planned.
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I have a suspicion that Hedgewise is more likely to be one of the Cunning Ones, Hedgewises dedicated to Ranald. I am quite certain we probably have quite a few dedicated Ranaldites in this room, prodded by our mutual friend to attend this lecture.

If it's a Cunning One, we might have found our ticket to engaging in a second avenue of progress into Ranaldite Ulgu Theurgy.
 
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I have a suspicion that Hedgewise is more likely to be one of the Cunning Ones, Hedgewises dedicated to Ranald. I am quite certain we probably have quite a few dedicated Ranaldites in this room, prodded by our mutual friend to attend this lecture.

If it's a Cunning One, we might have found our ticket to tackling a second avenue of progress into Ranaldite Ulgu Theurgy.
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Now they wouldn't know anything about that, they're just simple herbalists.

Maybe they've been around the square a few more times than us whippersnappers, but there's hardly anything magical to hard earned wisdom.
 
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Ericwinter said:
Fair enough, although I could dispute what qualifies as a public venue, considering there's at least a few not-mages in the crowd, and we're in a named stage meant to host orchestras that the College of Altdorf was reluctant to give up. But eh, that's semantics.
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A lecture stage isn't a public venue. Everyone here has been invited. Given it took the Emperor's personal leave to allow many of the guests to attend, this is decidedly not somewhere just anyone can get into.
 
But, yeah. Learning 27. We've prepared for it. There's a chance that it becomes bad, but we're guaranteed that it won't be terrible.
 
pucflek said:
We are literally giving lecture on magic. Like, roflmao.
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Quest said:
A lecture stage isn't a public venue. Everyone here has been invited. Given it took the Emperor's personal leave to allow many of the guests to attend, this is decidedly not somewhere just anyone can get into.
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Depends on your definition of public I suppose, but again, semantics. In the meantime however, I do have to wonder how the Nagarythe diplomat and Shadow warrior in the crowd might influence our future Elfcation plans. Like, they only knew of us before since we captured that Druchii, but now we'll be showing up as a respected mage who managed to give this highly influential lecture. That could change how they treat us during our stay somewhat.
 
Ericwinter said:
Depends on your definition of public I suppose, but again, semantics. In the meantime however, I do have to wonder how the Nagarythe diplomat and Shadow warrior in the crowd might influence our future Elfcation plans. Like, they only knew of us before since we captured that Druchii, but now we'll be showing up as a respected mage who managed to give this highly influential lecture. That could change how they treat us during our stay somewhat.
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I hope they show up for our next lecture. Queekish and how to squeak it.
 
Between 'other legitimate employer' and 'demonstrably good reason', the article allows public magic for just about anything but mischief and crime. Mathilde is absolutely in the clear here.
 
Night said:
Conveniently, as a Knight of Stirland, we would appear to be a legitimate employer for ourselves as defined in the document.
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Which naturally means that Mathilde using magic purely for her own benefit also benefits Dame Weber of Stirland and by extension the entire Empire. Same also goes for Thane Weber and the Karak Eight Peaks.

So really, Mathilde obtaining the ultimate arcane power and taking back control over life and death is something everybody should be in favour of.
 
The Bird said:
The greatest human magic user so far.
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Well, yeah. That doesn't undermine my implied point, though: Where human magic users are concerned, Nagash is a better metaphorical representative of Belichick than Mathilde. Him, or Drachenfels. Not sure if the latter was ever human.
 
Quest said:
I hope they show up for our next lecture. Queekish and how to squeak it.
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There are not going to be lectures on that one. Conspiracy of silence, and all that. Algard is probably going to have us teach Queekish to a select group of trusted Perpetuals who will then give one-on-one lessons to people who have a need-to-know about Queekish and can be trusted not to spread its existence around.
 
Chronic said:
There are not going to be lectures on that one. Conspiracy of silence, and all that. Algard is probably going to have us teach Queekish to a select group of trusted Perpetuals who will then give one-on-one lessons to people who have a need-to-know about Queekish and can be trusted not to spread its existence around.
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What if we convince people it's used to communicate with adorable puppies?

... Actually, can we teach written Queekish to the We? That way we ensure to always have someone capable of interpreting it stay around.
 
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