King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Yes, thanks.
On the other hand, it might be reasonable to send an evil magical creature to a college of magic so that it can be studied in relatively safe circumstances via magical means.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Yes, thanks.
On the other hand, it might be reasonable to send an evil magical creature to a college of magic so that it can be studied in relatively safe circumstances via magical means.
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[x] A relaxing winter, trying to remember how to enchant.
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If it was, then why the secrecy? Nah, this request isn't legit.
Exmorris idea that maybe we shouldn't give our string-puller more dirt on us is compelling. Don't become (more) complicit, that just digs you into a deeper hole.
Kairos123
Insomniac Extraordinaire
"More dirt," he says, when we're already strung over a barrel. "More complicit," he says as we can do nothing but obey. The idea that they'll somehow use this against us is absurd. It is irrational fear talking. They have our own college and the threat of being declared a witch as leverage over us. There is no "deeper hole" than someone having the power to have us cast out, disgraced, and killed at a moments notice. Someone that powerful isn't going to need something as anemic as us shipping them undead to hold over us.
Sure, shipping undead is suspicious and illegal, but it isn't undermining our Elector Count or weakening the defenses of Stirland (the two lines we shouldn't be crossing). Maybe if they were asking for a Wight, books on necromancy, or undead artifacts, it would fall under those two, and the fear would be understandable, but not for a single zombie.
If we want to change the backer's position of absolute control, we're going to need to figure out who our backer is and how deal with them. To do that, information is vital. We're going to have to take the chances given to us. This is the first step, as even if we fail in following the cart, we still learn something from the reward itself. Don't pass up the chance because you're afraid of making things worse.
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"irrational fear talking", says the one who thinks we can do nothing but obey.
It's hardly fear to consider that our handler is possibly bluffing. Here, let me repost Regimand's original message:
'Letters will be sent to you; you will know them by their cipher. They will contain instructions; instructions unknown to and unsanctioned by the Grey Order. Should you fail to follow them, you will be declared rogue.'
Which doesn't say anything about who will be doing the declaring, or on what grounds, and definitely doesn't say it has our own college as leverage. I don't know what leverage they really have. Maybe they do have the power to declare us rogue, and maybe they don't. Maybe they were counting on the Witch Hunter to join in the burn brigade instead of him coming to trust us. But what you're arguing here sounds an awful lot like "Assume our unknown situation is the worst possible, therefore we lose nothing by making it more likely we are in the worst situation."
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Or, here's another possibility:
Maybe our handler doesn't exist and this is all an extended test by Regimand.
The Grey Order being secretive secret police and everything, I wouldn't put it past them to verify the skill and loyalty of their own journeymen this way by elaborate ruses and anonymous threats with plausible deniability. "Is Mathilde dumb enough to ship undead around the Empire on the unspecified threat of an anonymous message?"
Maybe our handler doesn't exist and this is all an extended test by Regimand.
The Grey Order being secretive secret police and everything, I wouldn't put it past them to verify the skill and loyalty of their own journeymen this way by elaborate ruses and anonymous threats with plausible deniability. "Is Mathilde dumb enough to ship undead around the Empire on the unspecified threat of an anonymous message?"
About ten minutes per corpse, and while it doesn't necessarily require paraphernalia, the Knights of Morr use candles and a small stone knife.
Practice could bring it down from multiple hours to just an hour, but it's never going to be fast.
What use do you have in mind for them? It takes an hour per chicken to set up for you personally, then the chickens need to be transported and maintained and someone who'll need multiple days will need to carry several chickens with them on horseback because Shadowsteed only lasts until dawn.
This won't happen by accident - casting a spell inside a matrix is different and a lot trickier than simply casting it on the target directly.
You can only have one active, but a bound magic alarm isn't active, it's not even cast yet. When triggered, it'll cast itself and then instantly be tripped by the person it was bound within. The only downside is you couldn't use magic alarm 'normally' without incoming pings dispelling it.
Not easily, it'd be even trickier than putting it inside them in the first place, and any error would unleash the spell.
You'll want to set things up before you get too much deeper into it, but for both ground-level research and skunkworks the bonus would be narrative rather than raw numbers - ie, if it's possible to make snakejuice grenades, having the enchantment set up would have them be of a more reliable explosive yield because you measured instead of eyeballing the amounts.
The bindings only work within a living creature to 'anchor' it to, for metaphysical reasons - a living creature 'exists' in more ways than a rock does. To cast it onto an inanimate object is enchantment rather than bound spells.
And yes, only one spell per creature. Once you advance further you could try to advance your understanding such that two bindings can coexist, but you won't know if it's a possibility until you investigate.
If anyone else has questions, or if I've missed anything, now's the time to ask.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
"Is Mathilde dumb enough to ignore her own Master's acceptance of the note as legitimate, and try to get one over on whatever grey order patriarch is behind this? That's not very loyal at all."
Depends a lot on the order, the Greys trend a lot more to the practical than the academic so after maybe half a year or so of testing it'll be declared good in a limited sense, and then after a few years of use in the field it'll be fully accepted.
Technically there's no reward since it's supposed to already do your job to push back the limits of what is known, but in general it does lead to you being more favoured for requests from the College, more freedom in your selection of what duties to take up, and can accelerate your climb up the promotional ladder. Particularly impressive accomplishments may garner rewards from the College, and should that be the case you'll be given a list to choose from based on what they have on hand.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
So does this mean that anyone dying with a Mindhole bound to them will lose all their memories of Mathilde?
Asking because we live next to Sylvania.
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Grey Order Patriarchs are not immune from corruption.
But, the motives of the note-sender are all speculative right now.
I'm not in favour of shipping off undead for a nebulous reward. We haven't even attempted other means of backtracking them. Or, further discussed the undead-shipping request with our Master Regimand- he read the note himself, and he would be the one we'd be shipping the undead to:
But, the motives of the note-sender are all speculative right now.
I'm not in favour of shipping off undead for a nebulous reward. We haven't even attempted other means of backtracking them. Or, further discussed the undead-shipping request with our Master Regimand- he read the note himself, and he would be the one we'd be shipping the undead to:
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That is definitely a possible interpretation. Maybe part of the Grey Order Magister Graduation Test will involve giving an explanation of why we reacted to the notes as we did?
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Cats ruin our alarms anyway.
Can we vary the alert at all? Or would each one be indistinguishable from a different stored casting? It's either potentially an emergency alert system for agents, or for one VIP at a time.
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bdun140
I have ideas. Sometimes they're even good.
[X] Plan Research
-[X] By all accounts the entire general vicinity it was in has been pulverized, but there could be a shadow of a ghost of a chance that something might remain of the Blasphemy of Blood that could be studied? Maybe?
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Publish Or Perish, Part 1: Though it's currently of limited utility to you personally, sharing your discovery might bring it to the attention of hundreds of wizards who could put it to great effect. Though before you do that, you'll need to learn the vocabulary to communicate exactly what it is you're doing, since you can't exactly submit the poor chicken as part of your paper.
-[X] By all accounts the entire general vicinity it was in has been pulverized, but there could be a shadow of a ghost of a chance that something might remain of the Blasphemy of Blood that could be studied? Maybe?
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Publish Or Perish, Part 1: Though it's currently of limited utility to you personally, sharing your discovery might bring it to the attention of hundreds of wizards who could put it to great effect. Though before you do that, you'll need to learn the vocabulary to communicate exactly what it is you're doing, since you can't exactly submit the poor chicken as part of your paper.
Indistinguishable in its current form.
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@BoneyM Is the framework itself easily removable?
Doesn't this have something of a huge potential for Ghyran use? Elector Counts and other super killy units having amazing buffs at need?
Or at least Contingency Heals?
How hard would it be to adapt this framework/matrix, or at least make a very specialized version to bind Bless Weapon into, well, weapons?
Does it work with divine magic?
Doesn't this have something of a huge potential for Ghyran use? Elector Counts and other super killy units having amazing buffs at need?
Or at least Contingency Heals?
How hard would it be to adapt this framework/matrix, or at least make a very specialized version to bind Bless Weapon into, well, weapons?
Does it work with divine magic?
An empty framework can be dispelled without trouble; one with a spell inside is very difficult to dispel without 'firing' the spell.
Impossible. What you're looking for there is enchantment.
No.
Nix's Warden
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