Voting for Math to conclude she has no business in dwarf matters doesn't feel right, given all of that. As a councilor, it's her business to have an opinion.
As the one who found it, doubly so.
This, 100%. Giving exactly no opinion is not the befitting of the brave Mathilde who has been shaped by Abel.
- I hope we get options to funnel some of our money back to our fief. Remember how we're a peer of the Empire? And there's a village that we have legal responsibility for and authority over? Yeah, we should probably spend some of our filthy lucre on helping those people.
- Romance novels are not just a meme. Mathilde's love of trashy books has been an established character trait since the first turn. Let's not fall prey to the standard quester failure mode of turning the protagonist into a complete utility maximizer.
While you have a point on both scores, I haven't seen anyone running the numbers to show that Mathilde can both fund a penthouse, save 1000GC for emergencies, spend 25% of her windfall on books, and can afford to leave sums out for our fief. You need to be clear how much you think we ought to leave for our fief, bearing in mind our proposed expenditures this turn, as well as whatever realistic penthouse budget, might result, plus the possibility that we'd need to stump up money for a Ranald Tavern/Shrine.....
The numbers may, or may not work out to do what you suggest, depending on how much you think ought to be remitted to our fief. Remember, by indulging in point 3, it means 700 GC less to remit to our fief (point 2), or any of the no doubt dozen possible projects that the thread may well suggest in the coming weeks. By voting for 3, there's a possibility you may have made point 2 much more contentious down the line that it already has.
No, I am NOT relitigating this vote down the line ahead of closure and ahead of time. I am pointing out that 700 GC on trashy books as you put it would have consequences for what you want to do unless you are able to make a case to voters (especially those who voted against the 700 GC indulgence) that the numbers fit, and your suggestion holds more merit than other competing expenditure suggestions.
I don't know how to explain to you that, by definition, desiring to spend literally hundreds of gold on something because somebody thought it would be funny cannot be anything other than a meme.
A narrow majority of the current voters think that a meme is funny enough to be worth 700 GC, and that memes are good ways to burn off money Mathilde ought not to sit on, because there are apparently few other good expenditure opportunities on the table open in turn 1.
We can only buy one building option per turn because it's a bad idea to build on top of something you're actively digging out, so there's a strict limit to how fast we can spend money on our 'wizard tower,' it'll take multiple turns to excavate all the rooms and so we'll have time to keep an eye on our costs as well as receive the income from our various sources.
That is exactly my point from the start. That we have to keep an eye on our costs, and that the project is a long multi-turn project, suggest we should earmark the money we
want to spend on the Wizard tower over the long run as soon as possible, especially with a thread where a significant number are in favor of burning as much of Mathilde's capital as fast as possible even if they have to vote for a certain kind of spending slightly under half the thread are skeptical about. If you think that a thread that casually proposes burning 700 GC on romance books because it's funny and adds life to Mathilde's character is going to actually keep an eye on costs and manage it well over multiple turn, I am unfortunately highly skeptical that this is true, unless the thread votes for a longer-term building fund budget.
At no point have I even proposed to construct the tower all at once, merely to have the money earmarked, and some kind of long term blueprint put into place to be executed over time. Otherwise, the issue of penthouse construction will be relitigated every turn, and that's not a prospect I am exactly thrilled to see. Decide - does Mathilde content herself with a 1000 GC Penthouse fund? 2000? 2500? That would greatly help alot of budget debates, if it can be determined just how much of the hoard the thread wants to commit to the penthouse in the next 10-15 turns or so.
It would stop alot of budget fights that go:
Let's burn money as fast as possible:
vs
We still have the Penthouse to build!
Which I can see, alot of budget fights circling around. Heck, about a third of the last several dozen pages revolve around budget fights, and we still have 75% of the hoard left to spend!
I really hope for an earmarked building fund, lest we see many repetitive budget battles, a Liber Mortis Mk II boondoggle. So yes, I do apologize, but I'm not sure what exactly you are critiquing here - a multi-turn activity where cost needs to be watched is crying for a budget.
