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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Sir_Travelsalot said:
His old strictures didn't make any judgements about whether you were doing crime as a challenge or even in support of any cause but your own greed, old lore Ranald just cared about whether you did things cleverly, and remembered that luck played its due part in your success (hence why you owe him roughly ten percent of every haul). A Ranaldite con artist could be every bit as perfectly faithful to the strictures whilst scamming dirt-poor farmers out of their last savings as if he were targeting some noble scion wearing ten years' income on his outfit, the important part was that you did it with as little violence as you could (so the bandit who kicks the door in and rummages through the place while holding everyone at swordpoint gets no approval).
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I mean, doing it cleverly is just another word for doing it for the challenge, there is no cleverness in scamming uneducated people or ones who have no choice.
 
Tobtorp said:
I will say that we have absolutely no idea of the state of the world before the arrival of the old ones either way. Though I will admit I probably speculated a bit too much.
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Winds of Magic from 4th edition WFRP has this to say:
Prehistoric accounts of magic are recorded on ancient
Lustrian tablets. According to the first generation of
Slann Mage-Priests, magic was scarce in the primeval
world. A mysterious alien race known as the Old Ones
arrived in silver skyships when much of the planet
was covered in ice. Its temperate equatorial region was
inhabited by fearsome monsters and since-forgotten
civilisations. The magical potential of these indigenous
species was limited because the Winds of Magic were
merely trickles of Aethyric energy.
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However, Boney has probably come up with his own answer for what magic was like before the Old Ones, since Winds of Magic was published four years after the Quest started.
 
IronFist said:
Maybe the other options were just gas giants, before the old ones stellar-formed them.

The Iceball also happened to be inhabited, so, food?
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Iceball could very well have been the best option in this solar system, and probably even well within acceptable margins overall, but their options would depend on whether they could also have reasonably decided to move on to the next solar system, or if some imperative meant that they had to settle in this one.
 
Alliterate said:
Iceball could very well have been the best option in this solar system, and probably even well within acceptable margins overall, but their options would depend on whether they could also have reasonably decided to move on to the next solar system, or if some imperative meant that they had to settle in this one.
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They had to T-pose on the Shartak to assert dominance...

And the Old Ones were probably really interesting.
 
I don't think the Old Ones were present when the dragons arrived, at least per the story Deathfang told. They reached an accord later.

(Makes me recall previous thread speculation somewhat along the lines that the Old Ones tracked the migratory space geese to find habitable planets across interstellar space).
 
Boney said:
There is a sound logical argument to be made that it should be okay to create a spell that only creates symptoms and not any actual disease, but a certain somebody isn't always convinced.
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I was reading this as Shallaya frowning on such spells, but others seem to be reading it as nurgle not always being convinced?

It seems like the dove would regard it as a bit of a betrayal to me.
 
Glau said:
I was reading this as Shallaya frowning on such spells, but others seem to be reading it as nurgle not always being convinced?

It seems like the dove would regard it as a bit of a betrayal to me.
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Shallya's disappointed frown is formidable, but it does kind of go onto the backburner when you edge too far over a metaphysical line and you start to hear the laughter.
 
Andres said:
Chapters 2, 3, and 4 of DSLF, rules for crime. Meaty rules and information all-around, but normal crime isn't much to talk about here. Still, there's a few bits I'd like to share.

Page 26 starts off chapter 2 strong.

Warhammer Fantasy is a fascinating hodgepodge of things from various different eras. I don't think this theory of crime existed until Victorian times. Warhammer is a good mashup of period-era thoughts, satire of modern-day things, and plain imagination, and it's vibrant as all hell.
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Aristole actually says poverty is the parent of revolution and crime in Politics, though if I remember right he uses that to justify eugenics I think.
 
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