The Prince of Pleasure would answer back in her voice.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- Hiding in the walls.
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- She/Her
Kragg comes up to politely explain that's not how you get an ancestor god.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
"So you're saying... that your eight Colleges all grumble that they're the best, and have occasional rivalries, but will still walk in lockstep at the sign of trouble?"
"Yes."
"...This is just eight Guilds put together in one city."
I'm afraid that's not in the cards.
It can be tricky to worship more than one god at a time in general, for Empire humans at least:
This is an area in which elves approach things differently, as they see the gods as aspects of their mentality, and have no problem at all balancing them out in their minds. Similar to how they're capable of using all eight winds without going crazy.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
This is the kind of line that deserves a dramatic musical accompaniment, to be honest.
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- California, USA
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- He/Him
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
Elves can mantle many deities simultaneously and balance them evenly, (hence the custom Deific Interface Pantheon,) while Humans were designed to adapt themselves to best fit whichever one deity they are mantling.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
I wonder if an elf would even be able to use a divine artifact like the coin?
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- Pittsburgh PA
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- He/Him
Well there is The Widowmaker so they can for sure use them... but I don't know if other ones would have the same amount of mental effects.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Lileath has supposedly handed out a few artifacts over the years- Alith Anar's bow, Teclis's staff, a couple that were lost.
einargs
Verified Spiller of the Egg Yolk
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- The Egg Yolk, Outer Layer
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- They/Them
What a perfect answer. Damn. You nailed a home run and walked out.
I'm not sure that link works. It seems like the primary one was what the Slann called the old ones. Then again, the Slann don't really worship the gods in the same way? But it seems likely that the elven gods at least partly overlap with human gods and humans can worship elven gods, it just goes bad when they worship Khaine and such. Moreover, elves seem capable of worshipping human gods. So I don't think there would be any need for a custom pantheon.
Maybe the custom pantheon is just designed to be worshipped in balance instead of individually? Built to enhance a feature of the elves?
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It would be the ultimate troll to actually update the page with his info when we hit sixteen years lol
An excellent answer
But, I still wonder about it-could someone exist as both mortal and divine? If Sigmar's cult had gotten started while Sigmar the Man was still alive, would Sigmar the God be able to really exist?
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- Actually pretty lost
When it rolls around, it'll just say "Kragg acknowledges you exist. To find out more, survive until you've known him for longer than he's had his nice boots" (approximately 50 years.)
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This scenario is not apotheosis in the traditional sense. Instead of becoming a god, a character inspires the creation of a god.
Functionally, a character would have a divine doppelganger that would have the personality of their myth rather than their actual personality. And their public actions aligning with that myth could strenghten the entity while actions that undermine the myth would weaken it.
That said, I don't think gods just arise from a strong enough belief, or else the deific pantheons would look very different. I don't think myths give rise to warp entities in Fantasy, or at least not entities of godly power and intelligence. That is more of a 40k thing.
I would sooner believe that Sigmar the god is Ulfric's child in a more literal sense that was named for Ulfric's favorite priest, rather than godhood being as simple to achieve as claiming it is so and having enough people agree.
If nothing else, we would hear more about the great god SETTRA in that case.
No we wouldn't, most of his people are too mindless to funnel the necessary amount of belief for SETTRA's apotheosis, amd he is irrevocably bound to this material world by fell necromancy. Another reason to hate Nagash, clearly.
If you don't think SETTRA would have taken over the Nehekharan pantheon when he was alive the first time, If it was a easy to do as convincing the people to whorship him, than we have fundamentally different conceptions of the character.
SETTRA did not always rule a nation of corpses.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
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- My own little world
Isn't one of the Gods of Nehekara, and the most important one, "Ptra?" IE: the back-half of Settra's name with a different prefix.
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- Earth
Settra would have become a God, if it were not a demotion to his status, for Settra is clearly above the Gods. It's right there in his titles 
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- Hiding in the walls.
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- She/Her
That premise assumes there being no time component and that ascension to divinity can be achieved in full without one's soul passing into the Aethyr or otherwise.
(Of course, neither the theory that at closest approach deities are doppelgangers or reflections nor the countertheory that one must exit the mortal realm to fully ascend to divinity accounts for the Ancestor Gods unless one proposes they were not divine until they had created and entered the Glittering Realm.)
(Of course, neither the theory that at closest approach deities are doppelgangers or reflections nor the countertheory that one must exit the mortal realm to fully ascend to divinity accounts for the Ancestor Gods unless one proposes they were not divine until they had created and entered the Glittering Realm.)
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
She rode one back when she first came to visit K8P and we found out she had the potential of being a wizard.
...What are you plotting?
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- Australia
Because we have a gun factory, here's 1600 German musket-revolver
No plots, just heard someone say that Eike couldn't ride and I couldn't remember her riding ability being displayed or mentioned.
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- Utrecht
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- Australia
Summon the cobbler daemons from No Strings Attached to destroy them in his sleep?