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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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So back when we were choosing how to deal with Morks energy, I said it would be a big character defining moment. And I was right: We're now having theological discussions, and making plans who to best serve Ranald. He's such a Good Boy that he can even reach through the Fourth Wall (Ahah!) to steal your hard. And give Nat100s, that's also important.
 
DarkLight140 said:
While there's something to what you're saying here the meaning of "tend to the needs of their flock" can get really variable in Warhammer. Consider that all the Knights of Morr- all of them- are considered priests. They can't even talk due to their vow of silence, and the "needs of their flock" that they tend to consist largely of smiting the undead and keeping graveyards from being defiled. Likewise the Grandmaster of the knightly order of Ulricans here is considered a priest of Ulric but he's a knight commander and spends his time and energy on battle, not on attending to Ulrican religious ceremonies- he just does that on the side.

This kind of "priest but spends their life on their job, not on their religion" situation is commonplace and Mathilde fits into it really well. The clergy of Ranald is informal and highly variable. While you're right about the recognition of one's peers (or god directly, in the absence of peers, but Ranald hasn't expressed his opinion on this) is needed for someone to legitimately be a priest, that is as a practical matter the only thing that Mathilde needs before qualifying as one of Ranald's. I don't think it's particularly likely that she'll pursue the course, but it would take 1-2 action slots of talking to his cult members that she knows to learn a few formalities and get rubber-stamped, and she'd get the title.
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Mathilde: "What? I'm not a priest. Right? Surely I'd know. ... Unless Ranald thought it would be funny. ... But he wouldn't. ... Right Ranald? ... Ranald says 'Trust me,' but he's smiling. Of course, he smiles a lot..."
 
If we do decide to donate some of our recent windfall to charity in an attempt to gain favor. How about donating a full 25% for the symbolism (while making it connect to "protection" somehow)? Ranald has four aspects and we invoked 3/4 in the last update, it makes thematic sense to me to set the donation at a full quarter to represent the sole aspect we weren't able to invoke using the gains we made from the other 3 aspects.
 
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Glau said:
Master rune of flight. Rune of cleaving. Rune of striking.
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The Rune of Striking does nothing, as the Master RoF has a fixed to-hit value.

But the Master RoF is kind of pathetic. It's only useful if you desperately want to give a high-S shit-BS character a ranged attack.

Because for Mathilde, what you suggest is a single S4 AP hit... Which is exactly the Strenght of our revolver, except it can shoot thrice in a turn.

Having Mjolnir is cool I will grant you that. But the crunch is plain not there, and we have Revolver and eventually Shadow Knives as ranged options.
 
Let's face it, we'll be ordained the second we tell this story to a fellow ranaldite and they believe us. Ordained and possibly canonized.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
This is getting worse by the minute.

Soon, we will actually start taking our Vow of Poverty seriously.
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Hey, I'm all for keeping our wealth to ourselves (doing otherwise would be positively communist) but if we're gonna donate for goodwill and Ranald's favor, we might as well add some symbolism and flair to it (in hopes of increasing the chance that Ranald will notice).

Who knows it might even be tax deductable.
 
Trickster314 said:
Hey, I'm all for keeping our wealth to ourselves (doing otherwise would be positively communist) but if we're gonna donate for goodwill and Ranald's favor, we might as well add some symbolism and flair to it (in hopes of increasing the chance that Ranald will notice).

Who knows it might even be tax deductable.
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In so far as our tithe is a tax, technically a lot of expenses are sort-of deductible, in that we pay for the accumulated wealth so if it's gone it's gone. Also, I'm in general pro-charity, but no more than 20% of our money please. We need that money.
 
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Trickster314 said:
Hey, I'm all for keeping our wealth to ourselves (doing otherwise would be positively communist) but if we're gonna donate for goodwill and Ranald's favor, we might as well add some symbolism and flair to it (in hopes of increasing the chance that Ranald will notice).
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Here's the rub: Mathilde has a deeply personal connection with Ranald.

And she flat out does not do the 10% tithe. She never has.

This money is Ranald rewarding Mathilde for the largest service he's likely ever had.
 
Trickster314 said:
If we do decide to donate some of our recent windfall to charity in an attempt to gain favor. How about donating a full 25% for the symbolism (while making it connect to "protection" somehow)? Ranald has four aspects and we invoked 3/4 in the last update, it makes thematic sense to me to set the donation at a full quarter to represent the sole aspect we weren't able to invoke using the gains we made from the other 3 aspects.
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Of course, the Aspect that we're missing is The Protector... anybody know a nice little rebellion we could fund for under 1000g?
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Here's the rub: Mathilde has a deeply personal connection with Ranald.

And she flat out does not do the 10% tithe. She never has.

This money is Ranald rewarding Mathilde for the largest service he's likely ever had.
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Wait we don't do the 10% tithe? well, if there's enough support for the donation, I'd like to make it a full 25% to represent one of Ranald's four aspects. If the option doesn't get enough support then I'd be fine with that as well.
 
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I completely agree with not giving up the money we've earned as a tithe for Ranald. However, the fact remains that we just fleeced a lot of mercenaries which will piss them off and make the grey college raise an eyebrow. There is nothing wrong with investing the money in a way that wins us some good-will while giving us a lesser but more constant stream of money.
 
Wizard chic has been such a pain in the ass to us. We should seize the market with our new found riches and start pumping out wizard clothes and accessories to sell. Get monetary revenge.

Charge actual wizards triple, and know we'll get it because we've suffered through that struggle.
 
I think she's more or less recognized as a priest by Ranald already. When she first met wolf and his friend they were arguing about why one of them drew the magus and priest cards that had no business inside the deck they were using.
 
Guile said:
Of course, the Aspect that we're missing is The Protector... anybody know a nice little rebellion we could fund for under 1000g?
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I'm sure that there's a Skaven underboss that would be willing to take us up on it (not sure it'll count tho).
ADarkerPorpoise said:
Wizard chic has been such a pain in the ass to us. We should seize the market with our new found riches and start pumping out wizard clothes and accessories to sell. Get monetary revenge.

Charge actual wizards triple, and know we'll get it because we've suffered through that struggle.
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That's evil and amazing at the same time. I fully support this (but we might get assassinated soon by the other colleges once word gets out).
 
tamarak73 said:
I think she's more or less recognized as a priest by Ranald already. When she first met wolf and his friend they were arguing about why one of them drew the magus and priest cards that had no business inside the deck they were using.
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I think that was a little too early.
The symbolism there was Priests (them) plus Magister (us) unexpectedly coming together.
 
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While we're at it, let's help @BoneyM a bit with the money plans and dwarf favor, so that when there's a vote there's a plenty of player-proposed options to include in the vote. That post is a compendium of player's ideas, no judgments. If it's a player's idea and it doesn't violate SV rules, it goes here.

I'll lay out what I managed to extract from the thread so far. Use a reply or quote button to propose changes or additions to this post so that I don't miss them. I won't always be able to follow the thread but I check my notifications.

Money spending options
  1. Sleep on it like a dragon is good enough
  2. Give it back to mercenaries directly
  3. Mutual aid/survivor benefits fund for mercenaries
  4. Donate to a charity
  5. Establish a mercenary company
  6. Establish a mercenary union
  7. Commission a top-notch lab in K8P
  8. Establish a tavern in K8P
  9. Establish a temple of Ranald and/or Shallya in K8P
  10. Invest in halfling economy
  11. Buy out EIC debt
  12. Improve our fief
  13. Prospect the Haunted Hills & buy some land there
  14. Pay for extra College lessons
  15. Pay for human or dwarven tutors
  16. Buy a cool ride - pegasus or griffin
  17. Buy some random bizarre crap, like dinosaur eggs we bought at Barak Varr
  18. Donate to the College
  19. Buy the best dwarven rifle we can or other equipment
  20. Grey College scholarship fund
  21. Establish a spy network
  22. Hire a retinue
  23. Start a detective agency
Dwarf Favor spending options
  1. Make us a killy thing (sword or whatnot)
  2. Establish a lab in K8P
  3. Establish a college chapterhouse in K8P
  4. Establish a tradition of Grey Order wizards working with K8P dwarfs
  5. Learn
    1. Khazalid
    2. dwarven math/chemistry/crafts/...
    3. runesmithing
    4. Skaven/Greenskin lore
    5. dwarven divine lore
    6. combat skills (long arms shooting, axe fighting, ...)
    7. ranger skills (traps,
  6. Collaborate on magical studies
  7. Establish temples of human gods in K8P
  8. Expand or improve niter factory
  9. Ask for a gyrocopter taxi on call
 
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Looks like fire is ahead by 1 (thge stray vote that did not get counted properly somehow)
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Sep 27, 2019 at 1:32 AM, finished with 712 posts and 136 votes.
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DarkLight140 said:
more religious matters, a Karak Eight Peaks temple to Ranald would be a solid investment if any significant number of humans will be staying here for a bunch of reasons:
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Ok I love the idea of setting up a tavern here, and that list is great. We could maybe do a sister tavern in the empire? Basically a hub for dwarven contracts to hire human mercs and adventurers, with the K8P serving as the other end where dwarves posted offers and met with those that made the trip. Rent some EIC offices for merchant caravan side business: knowing when mercenary units will be traveling to and from makes coordinating protection an easy win-win.

DragonParadox said:
Looks like fire is ahead by 1 (thge stray vote that did not get counted properly somehow)
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"You want a plan?" Mathilde shrugs. "Burn it. Burn it all."
 
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