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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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All I am reading is that Caledor probably wants to sit down after channeling for 6000+ years. @Boney , what would the metaphysical implications of procuring a gilded chair for him be?
 
Byzantine said:
It… started as a collective. I'm not sure they could maintain any semblance of individuality through what they have spent the last many thousand years doing in perfect sync.
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I mean, they aren't disembodied souls (at least not in said novels, Boney can do what ever he wants obviously). They are still in their mortal bdies and haven't aged a day due to timey whimy reasons.
 
I would make a couple jokes about Sigmar and Caledor cracking open a cold one but Sigmar getting flushed down the Azyr toilet is an End Times thing so likely to be disregarded.
 
Codex said:
I would make a couple jokes about Sigmar and Caledor cracking open a cold one but Sigmar getting flushed down the Azyr toilet is an End Times thing so likely to be disregarded.
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Hey, why'd they choose Azyr for that anyway? I'dve thought that Sig's thing would be Hysh, all light and faith instead of Skies and Foresight.

Or is it that they just wanted Fantasy versions of Ultramarines?
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
Hey, why'd they choose Azyr for that anyway? I'dve thought that Sig's thing would be Hysh, all light and faith instead of Skies and Foresight.

Or is it that they just wanted Fantasy versions of Ultramarines?
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They wanted Sigmar to be Thor, with the whole hammer striking the ground like a lightning bolt. They probably had the Stormcast Eternals in mind as well. Hysh was assigned to Tyrion and later Teclis.

Sidenote, I like the Stormcast Eternals and have read the 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 Battletomes (Army Books). I am a fan. They might have started as "Space Marines in Fantasy" but I think they've found their identity and they're in a good place. GW don't even spoil them as much anymore. Right now Lumineth Realmlords are GW's darling baby. They got a book in 2020, 2021 and they're getting another one this year. It's Elf season.

Strangely, Tyrion has yet to get a model or a statblock, only Teclis. There isn't even art depicting him in Age of Sigmar.
 
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Sculpt0r said:
Threw together a diagram of the Leyline studies this chapter.
Experiments with Sevirric Infrastructure - 2489 pt.3
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more like Caledumb Dragonlamer >: p

A_Somebody said:
Huh wait, so there's cases where turning off stuff a Waystone still means you have stuff flowing in and some cases where turning it off has the flow stop?
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control from the Vortex seems to be necessary to stop flow from upstream. So if a waystone already disconnected from the rest of the network is turned off, the next one upstream won't know to stop sending flow.
 
A_Somebody said:
Huh wait, so there's cases where turning off stuff a Waystone still means you have stuff flowing in and some cases where turning it off has the flow stop?
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If I understood the chapter properly, yeah.

Tl;Dr WS3 runs out of juice

My theory is that after CS sends the initial Spooling Cantrip, the Waystones can&do continually cast it from their stored/Leyline energy. So in exhibit 1, the Vortex/nearest Nexus/WS4 winds up emptying out WS3, and rendering the 3-2 Leyline quiescent.

Whereas in exhibit 2, there's no outflow from WS2, so it's stores don't wind up emptying out and Leyline 2-1 keeps Spooling magic into it.
 
I think that we learned from the ley line that we should not be messing with ley lines at least in the short turn. You need a god or something like that to handle the Dhar or the kind of lore you would have to dig out of the skulls of Malaketh or Morathi.
 
DragonParadox said:
I think that we learned from the ley line that we should not be messing with ley lines at least in the short turn. You need a god or something like that to handle the Dhar or the kind of lore you would have to dig out of the skulls of Malaketh or Morathi.
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Or ask CS to pretty please let us experiment with their innards so we can help them out. Well, better phrased than that. Figure out a way to communicate with CS and have Sarvoi do his thing.
 
Codex said:
Or ask CS to pretty please let us experiment with their innards so we can help them out. Well, better phrased than that. Figure out a way to communicate with CS and have Sarvoi do his thing.
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Thorgrim's Throne of Power probably *could* establish communication, but Mathilde doesn't know about it IC, and even if the High King actively participated in the Project (which isn't very likely to happen) I'm not sure he would know how to do it.
 
Ergosum said:
Thorgrim's Throne of Power probably *could* establish communication, but Mathilde doesn't know about it IC, and even if the High King actively participated in the Project (which isn't very likely to happen) I'm not sure he would know how to do it.
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Thorgrim would actively participate if it meant restoring the Karaz Ankor's Great Works I'm pretty sure, but he would have to be very confident in our success to invest. But even his active participation might not be enough to convince him to reconnect the Karaz Ankor to the Elven network.
 
A_Somebody said:
@Boney Would getting Haletha officially on the "Chill Gods you Can Worhsip" list require a full Elector's Meet or would this involve somehow using the 'Great Deed' to get the ear of someone on the other religious meet-up that happens every so often that the Ranaldites keep sneaking into?
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As others have said, Haletha isn't on the naughty list. The problem is that the core of Haletha's worship is unsanctioned magic users, and the existence of non-Halethan Hedgewise means you can't just handwave away Hedgecraft as Halethan divine magic.

Aule said:
Codex, could you please find the quote from there about common Elves joining Waystones after death? My pdf file is in a different language and with unsearchable text, impeding my own attempts to find it.
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Aule said:
Ty.

I guess we will eventually find out what's the quest canon about that, I simply asked to see the exact quote from canon canon. Mathilde would probably get a wayshard herself in the foreseeable future, I look forvard to her observations of it.
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WoQM on Elven afterlife beliefs:

Boney said:
Their beliefs are pretty similar to Morrite ones. The only major difference is that the Elves have a more developed idea of what the journey to the afterlife looks like, and believe that if a Priest of Morai-heg isn't around to point the soul in the right direction, then the soul needs to make its way to one or strike out into the Aethyr on its own. But a soul wandering the Aethyr is easy prey to things a lot worse than Ereth Khial, so if an Elf is dying and there isn't a benign Dreaming Wood or a branch of the Waystone network for their soul to be able to travel along safely, some of them will reach out to Ereth Khial. She also stockpiles secrets and has servitor spirits with a range of nasty abilities, so unscrupulous Elves try to bargain with her, either with their own soul or with someone else's.

Some Elves don't like the idea of journeying into the Aethyr upon death whatever the destination, and instead seek to find shelter in the physical realm, usually their homeland. This is most common among Asrai, where they believe these souls join 'the Weave'.
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TheBigMole said:
All I am reading is that Caledor probably wants to sit down after channeling for 6000+ years. @Boney , what would the metaphysical implications of procuring a gilded chair for him be?
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There doesn't actually seem to be anything stopping anyone from visiting the Isle of the Dead, it's just that nobody seems to return if they go further than the beach. So if you were able to convince Ulthuan to let a human traverse the Inner Sea you could drop it on his front porch.
 
Boney said:
There doesn't actually seem to be anything stopping anyone from visiting the Isle of the Dead, it's just that nobody seems to return if they go further than the beach. So if you were able to convince Ulthuan to let a human traverse the Inner Sea you could drop it on his front porch.
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I wonder why Ulthuan doesn't communicate with Caledor and his helpers then, if only by mail? They've got enough leeway to act at least a little, given that during the Sundering they showed up to fight off Malekith's forces, even if they didn't leave the Isle to do so.

Or maybe they already do, and there's some other reason they can't/don't repair Waystones beyond the assumption that the knowledge has been lost.
 
I had the idea that the Waystone 'commands' might not actually be commands, they might actually be a built-in messaging service to the people who are actually controlling the system. There wouldn't be a need for any 'morse code' style communication if the system already supports voice calls.

Speaking of, Caledor is likely still chanting in the middle of the storm. The High Elf campaign of Total War Warhammer 2 repeatedly says so directly, and talks about how you are making his job easier by stabilizing the Vortex. At the end of the campaign, you reassemble the Phoenix Crown and then sacrifice it in a ritual that permanently stabilizes and protects the Vortex from Skaven, Druchii, and Slann meddling, after which Caledor dissolves and is carried away by the flows of Aether.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
I wonder why Ulthuan doesn't communicate with Caledor and his helpers then, if only by mail? They've got enough leeway to act at least a little, given that during the Sundering they showed up to fight off Malekith's forces, even if they didn't leave the Isle to do so.

Or maybe they already do, and there's some other reason they can't/don't repair Waystones beyond the assumption that the knowledge has been lost.
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They are being held hostage by the last, yet the greatest God or Order.

When Tzeentch finally got rid of that god the world quickly slipped into End Times.

His name? Status Quo.

(JK)
 
Deathbybunnies said:
I wonder why Ulthuan doesn't communicate with Caledor and his helpers then, if only by mail? They've got enough leeway to act at least a little, given that during the Sundering they showed up to fight off Malekith's forces, even if they didn't leave the Isle to do so.

Or maybe they already do, and there's some other reason they can't/don't repair Waystones beyond the assumption that the knowledge has been lost.
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Said beach is a storm-tossed landscape littered with monstrous bones and broken weapons, with nary a letterbox to be found.
 
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