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[X] Tell Belegar and Kragg.

Alot of the publically offered justifications against telling Belegar and Kragg seem to be coming from the direction of meta-knowledge that Mathilde does not possess (for example, the Chaos Dwarves are utterly taboo), so the basis for much of the no vote is not convincing me. Also, alot of the Grey Magister does not do X arguments kind of make Mathilde out to be a cookie-cutter Grey Magister. Mathilde is her own unique individual in her own right, and being a Grey Magister is but one part (if crucial part) of Mathilde's identity.

On the other hand, I am convinced by the claim that Kragg may publicly believe our story, but he still knows that there is more to the story than we are letting out in the council - we were skimping on the details of the ritual very deliberately in council after all. Furthermore, considering how Mathilde behaves among political masters that she respects, I think it's very in character for her to disclose the events of Karag Nar to Belegar and Kragg, especially since she can't rule out that this is the last "ritual" the Reconquestia of Eight Peaks is going to run into. And I think Belegar has earned Mathilde's respect. Furthermore, Mathilde in-character shapes her reading of military situations based on the concept of the Fog of War. I imagine that in her mind, minimizing the Fog of War for her commanders is the right move to make.

[X] Join the hunting with Ruprecht Wulfhart

The Ulricans are no friends to the Sigmarites. Best to cultivate relationships with them considering Mathilde's characterizations, and I do want to pursue the Middenhiem plot hook further.

[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Skaroki


What is discussed among Wizards stay between Wizards. But Panoramia is also a fellow human female that is near Mathilde's age, and one that I think Mathilde sees as an emergent friend.

I'm also putting in the Skaroki vote as a preference vote since I can see the appeal of striking up a friendship with Skaroki.

[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service

Not in favor of Drinking, don't want a hangover for tomorrow.

Gambling + Ranaldan Religious Services synergies are too tempting to be ignored. And it's only appropriate to hold a thanksgiving for our god after he backed us up in Karag Nar, not that we would admit it public anyway. No, it's because we want to give thanks to Ranald the Protector for surviving so far on behalf of all Ranaldian worshiping mercenaries within the expedition. The deception we are playing here is that we are a devotee of Ranald the Protector - when we are actually a devotee of Ranald the Four Fold god.

[X] Yes to Shenanigans

Sure, why not?
 
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I know we all love waifus here, but can we put off Panoramia until next time?

Our waifu Titus can wait. Let the miscast lesson sink in, instead of immediately turning around and being all friendly with her. Her Master will thank you for it.
I'm neutral on most of this vote, but I definitely want to do this:

[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service

Why? Because aside from Mathilde, the big group of Ranald worshipers in the expedition is probably among the various human mercenaries. You know, the guys who just rocked in that last battle, rolling 90+ twice in a row? So this should fit in nicely.
That does sound pretty fun. And even if there aren't a bunch of Ranaldites (do they have a high sign? like thieves cant or whatever?), unknowingly getting everybody to praise Ranald appeals, too.
That is... A very bad way to lead or coach, if you are looking for performance. I've quit orgs that were run like this before, because they tend to grind people up and spit them out without ever getting any real productivity out of them. We've delivered the warning, and conveyed disapproval sucessfully. Now we need to convey that we consider this done with, and we will trust her, as long as she doesn't do it again.
Do you often explode into demons when you don't do your job perfectly? Just checking.
 
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I have to ask why are so many people attached to telling Kragg because I can sort of understand Belgar if you value our friendship that much but why Kragg? Cause no matter what Kragg is going to look at us worse if he hears the full story since basically everything about the event would ruffle his conservative feathers.
 
@BoneyM, Would Ranald be tickled if we use the coin with Deceiver to bluff at gambling? For 1 he is a troll so he'll likely get a laugh out of her opponents getting gobmacked she had a royal flush. On the other it is a powerful artifact made from a god.
 
[X] Tell Belegar.
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Tell Belegar the full story and let him handle Kragg for us, (telling us if he intends to tell Kragg and what)

[X] Join the hunting with Codrin
[X] Join the hunting with Ruprecht Wulfhart

[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus

[ ] Drinking
[ ] More drinking
[ ] Drinking games
[ ] Being maudlin
[ ] Eating
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[ ] Listening to Longbeards grumble
[X] Sparring
[ ] Target shooting
[ ] Put on a magic display (Petty and Lesser only)
[ ] Play with a giant wolf
[ ] Play with a demigryph
[ ] Other (write in suitably celebratory activity)

[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service

"Will any object to extending the goals of the Expedition?" Ulthar asks
The acceptance of this seems weird when seen through the lense of what I've been told by you all about Dwarf psychology. People were promised certain rewards for certain tasks. Any subsequent change of contract should be discussed with new payment attached, no?
Or am I misunderstanding the actual causes behind Dwarven raids on towns that are slightly short on payment and such?
Mathilde is either coming clean or she isn't. Doesn't make sense to pick and choose at the point where she's telling the Dwarves about her Mork possession.
I assume this is a statement about how things work out without metagaming. I approve if that's the case.
but Australian magpies mostly serve Khorne.
You can't survive in the Southern Chaos Wastes as a devotee of a manling god.
 
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To be honest?

Dwarfs are not human in mindset. The impression of "Talking about this will only give us useful information and will have no major impact on things" is... Wishful thinking at the best, because it forgets that Dwarfs cannot fucking let things go unavenged.

This information getting to them won't be helpful, it'll be a massive, rocky, grinding burden that they can't get rid of because the Chaos Dwarfs are beyond their ability to punish for the atrocity. It's a cruel burden to lay on them without even a path to avenging it.

They don't need to know it, it has no impact on the campaign, it can literally only hurt them.

If we must know, we can talk to our College--they probably do know by now, if only because Grey Wizard agents might have backtracked some Chaos Artillery back to their makers.

Making a terrible mistake because "We have no IC reason to know it's a mistake and therefore we should make it in defiance of Mathilde's training to keep her mouth shut" is...

I don't have polite words to describe it. We dodged a bullet with the amount of information we gave being satisfactory, we don't need to jump back in front of it and dare it to miss us again.
 
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Alot of the arguments against telling Belegar and Kragg seem to be coming from the direction of meta-knowledge that Mathilde does not possess. On the other hand, I am convinced by the claim that Kragg may publicly believe our story, but he still knows that there is more to the story than we are letting out in the council - we were skimping on the details of the ritual very deliberately in council after all. Furthermore, considering how Mathilde behaves among political masters that she respects, I think it's very in character for her to disclose the events of Karag Nar to Belegar and Kragg, especially since she can't rule out that this is the last "ritual" the Reconquestia of Eight Peaks is going to run into. Furthermore, Mathilde in-character shapes her reading of military situations based on the concept of the Fog of War. I imagine that in her mind, minimizing the Fog of War for her commanders is the right move to make.
I would apreciate if you could hold yourself back from outright lying about what is happening
 
[X] Tell Belegar and Kragg.
[X] Join the hunting with Ruprecht Wulfhart
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
 
I have to ask why are so many people attached to telling Kragg because I can sort of understand Belgar if you value our friendship that much but why Kragg? Cause no matter what Kragg is going to look at us worse if he hears the full story since basically everything about the event would ruffle his conservative feathers.
They think that a cantankerous ultra-conservative of an already ultra-conservative race will react well.
What I'm hearing is that people think that leaving him guessing would be worse. I'm not sure how whatever he's imagining could be worse than being possessed by Mork, though.

Like, maybe if he thought we've secretly been Mork this entire time?
 
[X] Tell Belegar and Kragg.

Alot of the arguments against telling Belegar and Kragg seem to be coming from the direction of meta-knowledge that Mathilde does not possess. On the other hand, I am convinced by the claim that Kragg may publicly believe our story, but he still knows that there is more to the story than we are letting out in the council - we were skimping on the details of the ritual very deliberately in council after all. Furthermore, considering how Mathilde behaves among political masters that she respects, I think it's very in character for her to disclose the events of Karag Nar to Belegar and Kragg, especially since she can't rule out that this is the last "ritual" the Reconquestia of Eight Peaks is going to run into. Furthermore, Mathilde in-character shapes her reading of military situations based on the concept of the Fog of War. I imagine that in her mind, minimizing the Fog of War for her commanders is the right move to make.

[X] Join the hunting with Ruprecht Wulfhart

The Ulricans are no friends to the Sigmarites. Best to cultivate relationships with them.

[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus

What is discussed among Wizards stay between Wizards. But Panoramia is also a fellow human female that is near Mathilde's age, and one that I think Mathilde sees as an emergent friend.

[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service

Not in favor of Drinking, don't want a hangover for tomorrow.

Gambling + Ranaldan Religious Services synergies are too tempting to be ignored.
The Chaos Dwarf thing is not at all solely meta-knowledge. Some race out there created Black Orcs. By their name they may well have been Dwarves. For the evil-hating Dwarves, it doesn't take a genius to see that could be a secret super shame.
 
[X] Tell Belegar and Kragg

[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus

[X] Play with a giant wolf
[X] Gambling
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service

[X] Yes to Shenanigans
 
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@BoneyM, Would Ranald be tickled if we use the coin with Deceiver to bluff at gambling? For 1 he is a troll so he'll likely get a laugh out of her opponents getting gobmacked she had a royal flush. On the other it is a powerful artifact made from a god.
It's what he uses it for, so I don't see why not.

We'd only be able to find out when long turns start again, though.
I would apreciate if you could hold yourself back from outright lying about what is happening
I see some personal interpretations of character in there, but nothing that I would classify as a falsehood, I don't think? Some people just read things differently.
 
What I'm hearing is that people think that leaving him guessing would be worse. I'm not sure how whatever he's imagining could be worse than being possessed by Mork, though.

Like, maybe if he thought we've secretly been Mork this entire time?

He's already accepted the explanation as fairly plausible though, he's not the sort to keep fishing on his own. He got a good one that fits what we've seen, if he wasn't satisfied he would have made that very clear at the spot.
 
[x] Join the hunting with Ruprecht Wulfhart
[x] Cook with Panoramia and Titus

[x] Play with a giant wolf
[x] Gambling
[x] Tell war stories

[x] Yes to Shenanigans
 
Need a few more for just, you know, not pissing off the dwarfs for reasons.

Especially with Boney confirming we'd be going full disclosure in this event.
I don't know, if the full disclosure is picked, It might be interesting to see how BoneyM writes what happens when a character who is close to their god breaks a core tenet of don't tell non-Ranaldites you're a Ranaldite to tattle on his latest hist.

we have gotten very used to those + 20's and have been getting very fast and loose with what we have been expecting from him and interpretations of his nature. (in fact, I do remember someone saying something about how we should change the thing about secrecy when I pointed it out earlier.)

maybe its time for him to remind us that he is a fickle god.

hint hint nudge nudge (yes, I'm petty, but I do think its a legit possible consequence of the choice.)
 
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He's already accepted the explanation as fairly plausible though, he's not the sort to keep fishing on his own. He got a good one that fits what we've seen, if he wasn't satisfied he would have made that very clear at the spot.
Maybe he'll be pleased that one weird look from him will get us spilling out our deepest secrets. It's kind of flattering.
 
I'm somewhat concerned they are going to sidetrack us to some mental health ward, preventing further involvement in the campaign. Dwarfs probably don't consider Wizards the pinnacle of stability, and they are going to take steps despite Mathilde's claims of health and sanity.
 
What I'm hearing is that people think that leaving him guessing would be worse. I'm not sure how whatever he's imagining could be worse than being possessed by Mork, though.

Like, maybe if he thought we've secretly been Mork this entire time?
The worst thing would be if we'd actually gone for the option where we accept Mork's blessing, instead of the one where we divert it towards a less horrible god. Like, if he goes into that Karag and has a look, he'll probably wonder where all the energy went when he sees nothing is destroyed. He'll assume we either kept it (which would make us look even more like a bomb than usual) or sent it somewhere else somehow, which means we had help from some kind of unknown factor we decided to hide.
 
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[X] Remain silent.

[X] Join the hunting with Codrin
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus

[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Sparring

[X] Yes to Shenanigans
 
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