That qualifies as "back in the misty beginning of the quest".
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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That qualifies as "back in the misty beginning of the quest".
I don't want the Order to get embroilled in Mira's schemes due to us giving her glowing recommendations. If we recommend her, we have some degree of responsability over her future actions.
On the same subject, I'm wary about spying on Alric for her. It seems she might have sabotaged his past endeavours so it's not much of a stretch to think she would use the info we give her to sabotage him again (whether or not what he is doing is "good" or not).
I'd rather just put Horstmann out of Alric's grip and just cut our loses. I'm not sure the supplemental info we would get from the Porter is worth the hassle. I'd much rather use those efforts to bring in Kislev or Bretonia and make do with what Lord Magister Horstmann can get us.
No Mathilde means no Karak Eight Peaks, and all of the other contributors are here at our invitation. If the Lights try to take over we have the power to push back, and to push back hard.
Which could be fun, if they try it.
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The option is essentially saying that Mathilde vouches for the Light Order as an institution to be trustworthy in the fight against daemons, undead, etc.
If you think that another College of Magic is not trustworthy in this regard, then that's a cataclysmic emergency that needs to be handled right now.
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They definitely won't push us out of being in an important position. What they could do though is change the "Empire Wizards" faction from being a group that directly supports all of our decisions into being effectively a third faction whose interests we have to balance and whose machinations we have to push back on. From there they could start doing their own dealings with Laurelorn Noble Houses, maybe inviting some with little involvement on our side. They could also use the Empire's diplomatic pressure on future recruits from Kislev and Bretonnia and scare away any potential Hedge allies.
But I agree with the fun part.
As Rex said.
Mathilde isn't just the boss, she's the whole linchpin of this whole operation who is making it even possible. It all been thought Mathilde and not anyone from the Lights who is making this happen in the first place.
An Light Order takeover, or trying any of that would burn then hotter than a twin-tailed comet.
Pempelune
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That could count as a positive, if it pushes the Grey Order into investing more into the Project.
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There isn't really an "Empire Wizards" faction. There's a WEBMAT faction and if we recruit anyone other than Magister Egrimm there will be also be a Light College faction. And once we recruit the Jades they will be their own faction. The colleges aren't going to stop pushing for their own benefit just because Mathilde spied on someone or introduced them to the Order.
I don't think a light order takeover is likely. A more plausible worry is that large light order involvement in the project might mean that the light order gets more credit than the grey order in the colleges. Yes, Mathilde is the one making this project possible with her unique brand of diplomacy, but I can kind of see the wizards of the colleges considering the magical expertise provided by the lights to be more impressive than the grey order's diplomacy, simply because the colleges of magic are about, well, magic. This is one of the reasons I want to recruit the Hedgewise, as that is the most likely source for a magical contribution from the greys.
But really, Mathilde doesn't care all that much about which order gets the most credit for the project, what's important is that the project succedes. And Mathilde herself, as the head of the project, is going to get a lot of the credit any way. And of course, the plan that's going to win is one that gives us exactly two lights in the project, one of which is a direct employee of Mathilde, so the point is mostly moot.
But really, Mathilde doesn't care all that much about which order gets the most credit for the project, what's important is that the project succedes. And Mathilde herself, as the head of the project, is going to get a lot of the credit any way. And of course, the plan that's going to win is one that gives us exactly two lights in the project, one of which is a direct employee of Mathilde, so the point is mostly moot.
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K von Carstein
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And if plan measured support wins, that one ambitious Magister will have been made LM thanks to our support, after we took him from under the thumb of his asshole boss. Egrimm will be more than willing to support us.
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I feel shamed by your approval of what plan I voted to do but can't tell why.
*Side eyes the username*
At least you are not Nurgle, I feel dirty when I agree with him.
In the spirit of 'vote for what you want', I think it should be noted that there is no guarantee we will get a Jade ritual master. For all we know we flubbed that roll and the best we can get from them is a bored journeymen with a bad attitude or something.
And as it hasn't happened yet we can't take that into account, I feel. Maybe we are totally screwed, maybe we get their patriarch.
Actually I would be up for doing a bit more to get the jade patriarch if that were an option. He is (as far as I can recall) not embroiled in any leadership struggle and he might have contacts in the Hedgewise scene we could use.
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Well, who does the Light Order hunts? If those 2 highly competent Lord Magister stay in Laurelorn, they are not looking for my kind.
You also forget that less demons benefits me too. After all, a farmer does not like predators attacking his cattle…
Also maybe the battle wizard stop blowing up your hidey holes.
I'm kind of dubious on him having contacts with the hedgewise, they do not have much in common with the Jades. I mean they might have had a shared camaraderie in the face of the witch hunters with the Druids of old, but that went out the window when some of those druids became part of the system that is hunting the Hedgewise. Granted that is not insurmountable, the Grey College shows that, but that is the result of a long and complex double agent game which the Jades would have no reason to run the like.
AFAIK the jade are very tight with the Hedgewise, because most jades were hedgewise before the college were introduced. Though I couldn't quote where I got that from, @Codex might though.
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Going by past precedent when it comes to wizard acquisition, maybe we'll be totally screwed by getting their Patriarch.