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Are we selling to Victoria, though? My impression was that the St. Lawrence Seaway was important because it opened international markets via the Atlantic.
Part of our treaty with them means Victoria is basically a captive market for us. We can buy low internationally, and sell at prices to Victoria that they can't put tariffs on.
It is also, at this point, hardly a spoiler for me to say that your government is really counting on the money from that national-scale scam as a part of your economic and militarization plans.
 
I like Blackwell as a character, and I can't help but root for him against the Crusaders. I just think it would be fun to face him down in Victoria's final hour.
It's always nice to have a competent enemy, even if the fight's harder. You should have to work for your win!
 
If it wasn't for Russia wanting to keep Victoria propped up, then I'd agree with you. As is, Victoria is going to have a lot of trouble extending their influence out into the old USA.

there is only so much a external power can prop up a nation if the locals insist on committing societal wide suicide through civil war

the only way russia could stabilize the situation is by directly occupying/administrating victoria
 
It's a shame that Blackwell is a Victorian, because his every appearance has been greatly compelling.
 
It's always nice to have a competent enemy, even if the fight's harder. You should have to work for your win!

Agreed 100%. Cartoonish enemies who are too incompetent/evil for its own sake are boring.

It's a shame that Blackwell is a Victorian, because his every appearance has been greatly compelling.

I think of him the way I would a skilled Nazi or Imperial Japanese military commander. He's fighting loyally for an evil cause, but he's smart, interesting, and I respect his capabilities even if I don't respect a lot of other aspects of who he is.

Really, Blackwell is just good writing. He makes for a great nega-Burns.
 
Canon Omake: A Pagan In Chicago, Part 2
Since this is coming back now, might as well upload this thing I've been sitting on for a bit.

A Pagan in Chicago, Part 2

It had become quite clear, as he made a home for himself, that most people in Chicago did not care much about who or what you worshipped, which made sense. In the face of Victoria, which would have killed them all simply because they would rather not be ruled by that horrible tyranny, what you worshipped seemed to be of little import. It was very different from his younger days, before the collapse, when it seemed that no one could agree on who or what to unite against.

Not that he should be surprised. Victoria was, in a way, the perfect symbol of what to unite against. Something that would gather usually feuding groups together in the face of something that threatened them all. It was only a matter of time before Victoria pushed too much, but he had not expected to see the pushback in his lifetime. Maybe, just maybe, he would be able to visit his old home, make the journey all the way to the suburban outskirts of Detroit, see what remained of his old house. Not today, though, because he had found a reason to stay in Chicago, a reason beyond the food and shelter, of course. Because he had found friends, old friends.

It had been the second week of his stay in the city. He had found a shrine, not one to a Catholic saint or the Virgin Mary, but a pagan shrine, not aligned to any specific god, or faith, tucked out of the way so as to not disturb other people using the area. At that shrine had been two men, one about his age, and another just a few years younger. He had not recognized them, but that was not strange, because he had never seen them in person. It was only when they spoke that memories started to come back. Of course, his bad memory made it so he left the shrine with only a feeling of deja vu. It took three more visits before his dang memories organized themselves enough for him to remember the two men. They had been friends, ones from online, back when he had been on the internet, back before everything went crazy. He had thought they had died in the chaos of the collapse, or after. They had thought the same of him of course, but it was simpler to think that someone perished than hold out the hope of their survival. He himself had long given up hope that he would one day meet his brother again. But having two old friends made the stay in Chicago much easier, helped him be less bitter about the world and his situation.

It had been the second month of his stay in Chicago when he met another old friend, one that he had not seen since his time in high school. Her hair was grey now, like his, but her attitude was as jubilant as ever, unbroken by the collapse, by the years after. Even in her old age, she was open about her beliefs as ever. In a way, he envied her, how she was so courageous, so happy. But that was just the bitter old man in him talking, the one who thought he had it the worst, the part that he hated about himself. But he ignored his envy, something his happiness at seeing her made easy. She was the one, he discovered, who had made the shrine, back when she had first arrived in Chicago. She had been here since the collapse, surviving the chaos, the Nazis, making a life for herself, helping those she could. He thanked the gods for this gift, that they might see each other again. And the best thing about the fortunate meeting was that she had found other old friends of theirs, living in the city. Not pagan, of course, but old school friends, from his home region. It gave his bitter old heart some hope, that things might be actually getting better. It helped that the war was going better than he thought it would. Only the gods knew the future, so what was the point in trying, right? Either way, it was nice, after all this time, to have some hope.
 
Oh, right. It's time for another round of Victorian Civil War Rolls. Up first: the Loyalists, who, due to the events of Operation Foil, suffer a -1 penalty to their war roll. I will require a d3 from y'all for the Crusaders' side of things.

EDIT: My god.
Looks like the Loyalists... foiled themselves.
It is also, at this point, hardly a spoiler for me to say that your government is really counting on the money from that national-scale scam as a part of your economic and militarization plans.
I prefer the term "extortion". The "x" makes it sound cool. Memes aside, Blackwell seems grounded enough to know the true impact of the peace deal, so calling it a scam doesn't seem to apply since there isn't much deception going on there.
 
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You know, it's times like these, you appreciate how the dice gods can be both cruel and kind. Smart play is to just back off and let them fight each other as we lick our wounds and rebuild our nation. The longer they fight, the less chance militarily either side will stand against us.

It also clearly puts our need to really beef up our farming industry nation-wide pretty darn high, as Victoria is going to have a LOT of refugees coming our way to escape the fighting. Most, if not all of them, with empty bellies.
 
if the Crusaders keep on winning, the more of the militia is gonna get kiled, and that militia is there workforce and the future army for the Loyalists
 
If it wasn't for Russia wanting to keep Victoria propped up, then I'd agree with you. As is, Victoria is going to have a lot of trouble extending their influence out into the old USA.
there is only so much a external power can prop up a nation if the locals insist on committing societal wide suicide through civil war

the only way russia could stabilize the situation is by directly occupying/administrating victoria

The Tsar, when not dealing with the EU, China, California, his own political enemies who want to take over from him via his idiot of a son, his daughter playing the environmentalist, and who knows what else, will probably be going livid now that he has to deal with his American puppet regime, whom he told to straighten up and stop being idiots so that he can give them support under the table, and they can't even quash their rebels long enough to harvest their crops so that they won't starve due to their own incompetence. The best he can do is maybe give 'humanitarian aid' to Victoria, but how much can he spare when the country is tearing itself apart, and/or send 'peacekeepers' to stabilize things. Of course, that's an expense he can't do considering it gives a free hand to the EU or China.

I think he's really experiencing buyer's remorse with Victoria right now.
 
Wow. Okay, so while the Crusaders did not roll a three, Blackwell rolled a zero. Thus, with the +2 margin of victory retained, the Crusaders actually still do technically retain a chance in hell of winning the civil war. Eventually. If they keep rolling like this for the next several turns.

My god.

Okay, continuing to write.
Oh god.

Someone please write a Negaverse post for this when Poptart's done with the post.
 
Someone please write a Negaverse post for this when Poptart's done with the post.
The Nega Thread would be at war with itself and would self divide into separate playerbases as they fight for who gets control of the next war with the Commonwealth. All the while actively destroying themselves as they continue to feed bodies into the grinder...
 
Huh? Please expand on that.
Short version: The Romanians had a communist mass strike, which was considered to be heroic, but certainly doomed by the QM. They managed to roll so insanely good for multiple turns that they fended of the initial troops send to beat them down, successfully sabotaged the railway, defeated the army vanguard and took over the major cities. This has lead to a lot of astonishment and even one case of religious conversion among the players, since Good must clearly exist and support the Romanian communists.
 
Short version: The Romanians had a communist mass strike, which was considered to be heroic, but certainly doomed by the QM. They managed to roll so insanely good for multiple turns that they fended of the initial troops send to beat them down, successfully sabotaged the railway, defeated the army vanguard and took over the major cities. This has lead to a lot of astonishment and even one case of religious conversion among the players, since Good must clearly exist and support the Romanian communists.

The odds are still against them, and I'll get them next time! :mob:

E: Also, when did we get so many emoji?
 
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Now that we've got a working intelligence network, maybe, but it's probably going to be an uphill battle involving multiple actions that chain into each other just to get any meaningful intelligence penetration of Victoria.
 
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