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Victoria disapproves of neither fertilizer nor 1930s mechanized farming equipment. Which is a bizarre line to draw, since the Industrial Revolution was past mature by that point, along with all the societal liberalization it made inevitable, but shhhhhhhh we have guns and will shoot you for disagreeing with us.

So...not sure if that would expand their territory, due to their greater reach, or shrink it, because they could more efficiently hit the quotas on less land.
Alright, here's what I've got thus far. I did take a few liberties with the borders of the NCR and Japanese North America the weird thing between JNA and the Helena Government is still TBD. I hope said liberties are okay, following a straight line for those sections of the CA-NV border felt weird. I can change it if necessary. The Farmers Federation of Dakota has been extended and widened, and the co-capitals of Bismarck and Sioux City are shown.



The full map may be accessed at this link; Victoria Must Fall I

The Dakotas, Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Oklahoma have been completed.

Cool. Though Hawaii and Alaska should probably be marked in as under their colonial masters?
 
Alright, here's what I've got thus far. I did take a few liberties with the borders of the NCR and Japanese North America the weird thing between JNA and the Helena Government is still TBD. I hope said liberties are okay, following a straight line for those sections of the CA-NV border felt weird. I can change it if necessary. The Farmers Federation of Dakota has been extended and widened, and the co-capitals of Bismarck and Sioux City are shown.



The full map may be accessed at this link; Victoria Must Fall I

The Dakotas, Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Oklahoma have been completed.
Cool. Though Hawaii and Alaska should probably be marked in as under their colonial masters?
Not to mention Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.

Then again, everyone forgets about Puerto Rico.
 
Non-Canon Omake: Shells For Shells
Shells for Shells

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"It's impossible to even picture in your mind, isn't it? That the ruins we can see, stretching from the foothills of the Rocky Mountains towards the open plains, all eighty or so square miles of it, once had over seven hundred thousand people living in it, going about their lives. Now? You might find perhaps six hundred or so on any given visit, wandering in small bands. And you only have to look them in the eyes once to know that this place really is a city of ghosts." - Wandering scavenger, who declined to provide any name, June 2nd, 2071

Among the earliest 'true' successor states to the collapsed United States, the Cascadian Republic that had formed from the banded together states of Oregon and Washington, as well as British Columbia, had met its violent end in the year 2042. The collapse of civil order and subsequent occupation by the IJA had longstanding effects on both the Continental United States as well as overseas in being the final straw for the fracturing of what was once the People's Republic of China.

Yet a far nearer party to suffering from the loss of the Cascadian Republic was the Adan Coalition, a minor revivalist movement centered upon the city of Boise. Boise had been relying for some years on electric power imported from former Oregon's hydroelectric power plants, trading their manufactured semiconductors and telecommunications expertise in exchange. The loss of a stable source of power was keenly felt in both political circles and in flagging industries. The Coalition withered, it's lofty dreams left to distant memory.

In such circumstances, which persisted for twenty years, it is hardly surprising that the city's leadership was eager to support the Rainbow Uprising in any capacity it could. While it would be with surplus PRC and Indian equipment with which the Uprising would be fought, the Adan Coalition had sent members of what was once Idaho's National Guard to render assistance in a military advisory role to the various participant armies and had geared up the score of ammunition factories that existed within Boise's metropolitan area to supply as much in the way of munitions that could be spared, with the understanding that the resurgent Cascadian Republic would be willing to enter into a new trade deal much like the previous one.

It was not to be. While the Coalition's military advisors had arrived, the acceleration of the Uprising's timetable led to the ammunition order not being complete. With their work finished, the advisors returned home to Boise, and all of Ada county is said to have prayed for success. Those prayers were evidently not heard.

In the August Mutinies, the Adan Coalition watched their hope for a return to (relative) prosperity sputter out in the Rainbow Army's infighting. With the plans for a resurgent Boise laid to rest, the city began to wind down the wartime production they had worked towards to support their Cascadian allies. The truth was far harsher.

After the quelling of the Rainbow Uprising, the IJA had learned of the Coalition's involvement, though the exact source remains unclear. The response was thorough and utterly merciless.

Aerial bombing, drone strikes, artillery barrages. The Rocky Mountains echoed for weeks on end with the devastation of Boise. What occurred could not be called battle, and labeling it a massacre would only downplay the industrial approach that was employed. It was, to quote an Adan Coalition refugee, "nothing short of demolition from beyond the horizon."

It is still not known just how much of Boise's population died. What is known is that the Coalition's armed forces were destroyed to the last, with every equipment stockpile, munitions dump, armory and fuel depot leveled to the ground. The civilian government was among the first to be lost during the initial attack which destroyed the Idaho State Capitol building. Every last firearms producer and ammunition factory was razed.

After three weeks, the bombardment stopped, and the city's final death knell began. With public infrastructure savaged by artillery barrages, and with open masses of people being strafed by unmanned drones, there had been no ability to clear away the rubble, let alone bodies. Disease became rife among the survivors, among whom those who were able to abandoned the dead husk of what had been a city of over seven hundred thousand people.

In the Rockies, the echoes faded, and the city became still.
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Alright, here's what I've got thus far. I did take a few liberties with the borders of the NCR and Japanese North America the weird thing between JNA and the Helena Government is still TBD. I hope said liberties are okay, following a straight line for those sections of the CA-NV border felt weird. I can change it if necessary. The Farmers Federation of Dakota has been extended and widened, and the co-capitals of Bismarck and Sioux City are shown.



The full map may be accessed at this link; Victoria Must Fall I

The Dakotas, Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Oklahoma have been completed.
Yeah, that map of the Dakotas looks reasonable to me, both as a viable food exporter and an unstable coalition ripe for fracture.
And California looking like that ominous 80-100 million man monster about to chestburst it's way out of the West Coast.
Not able to find Houston, Dallas, Little Rock, New Orleans or Baton Rouge in the southern parts of the map. But those aren't really important yet.

Great work.
 
Alright, here's what I've got thus far. I did take a few liberties with the borders of the NCR and Japanese North America the weird thing between JNA and the Helena Government is still TBD. I hope said liberties are okay, following a straight line for those sections of the CA-NV border felt weird. I can change it if necessary. The Farmers Federation of Dakota has been extended and widened, and the co-capitals of Bismarck and Sioux City are shown.



The full map may be accessed at this link; Victoria Must Fall I

The Dakotas, Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Oklahoma have been completed.
Gosh, that looks amazing. :D All right. Not canon yet -- the Lloyd Clique omake hasn't even been submitted, let alone canonized, and probably is confusing a few people at the moment, and this remains incomplete for now in any event -- but I really like what I see here.
Shells for Shells

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"It's impossible to even picture in your mind, isn't it? That the ruins we can see, stretching from the foothills of the Rocky Mountains towards the open plains, all eighty or so square miles of it, once had over seven hundred thousand people living in it, going about their lives. Now? You might find perhaps six hundred or so on any given visit, wandering in small bands. And you only have to look them in the eyes once to know that this place really is a city of ghosts." - Wandering scavenger, who declined to provide any name, June 2nd, 2071

Among the earliest 'true' successor states to the collapsed United States, the Cascadian Republic that had formed from the banded together states of Oregon and Washington, as well as British Columbia, had met its violent end in the year 2042. The collapse of civil order and subsequent occupation by the IJA had longstanding effects on both the Continental United States as well as overseas in being the final straw for the fracturing of what was once the People's Republic of China.

Yet a far nearer party to suffering from the loss of the Cascadian Republic was the Adan Coalition, a minor revivalist movement centered upon the city of Boise. Boise had been relying for some years on electric power imported from former Oregon's hydroelectric power plants, trading their manufactured semiconductors and telecommunications expertise in exchange. The loss of a stable source of power was keenly felt in both political circles and in flagging industries. The Coalition withered, it's lofty dreams left to distant memory.

In such circumstances, which persisted for twenty years, it is hardly surprising that the city's leadership was eager to support the Rainbow Uprising in any capacity it could. While it would be with surplus PRC and Indian equipment with which the Uprising would be fought, the Adan Coalition had sent members of what was once Idaho's National Guard to render assistance in a military advisory role to the various participant armies and had geared up the score of ammunition factories that existed within Boise's metropolitan area to supply as much in the way of munitions that could be spared, with the understanding that the resurgent Cascadian Republic would be willing to enter into a new trade deal much like the previous one.

It was not to be. While the Coalition's military advisors had arrived, the acceleration of the Uprising's timetable led to the ammunition order not being complete. With their work finished, the advisors returned home to Boise, and all of Ada county is said to have prayed for success. Those prayers were evidently not heard.

In the August Mutinies, the Adan Coalition watched their hope for a return to (relative) prosperity sputter out in the Rainbow Army's infighting. With the plans for a resurgent Boise laid to rest, the city began to wind down the wartime production they had worked towards to support their Cascadian allies. The truth was far harsher.

After the quelling of the Rainbow Uprising, the IJA had learned of the Coalition's involvement, though the exact source remains unclear. The response was thorough and utterly merciless.

Aerial bombing, drone strikes, artillery barrages. The Rocky Mountains echoed for weeks on end with the devastation of Boise. What occurred could not be called battle, and labeling it a massacre would only downplay the industrial approach that was employed. It was, to quote an Adan Coalition refugee, "nothing short of demolition from beyond the horizon."

It is still not known just how much of Boise's population died. What is known is that the Coalition's armed forces were destroyed to the last, with every equipment stockpile, munitions dump, armory and fuel depot leveled to the ground. The civilian government was among the first to be lost during the initial attack which destroyed the Idaho State Capitol building. Every last firearms producer and ammunition factory was razed.

After three weeks, the bombardment stopped, and the city's final death knell began. With public infrastructure savaged by artillery barrages, and with open masses of people being strafed by unmanned drones, there had been no ability to clear away the rubble, let alone bodies. Disease became rife among the survivors, among whom those who were able to abandoned the dead husk of what had been a city of over seven hundred thousand people.

In the Rockies, the echoes faded, and the city became still.
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As per usual, feedback is welcome.
Hm. Y'know, I'm not actually sure if the Japanese could realistically get away with being this blatant. It's not their own territory, where they control all the news outlets. There's no real provocation that justifies a response of this magnitude. It's not Victorian patrol territory, meaning that there haven't been roving death squads rolling through every so often to raze communications infrastructure with the outside world back to the ground. The polity was old and established enough to have built up some contacts in the outside world, and gained some legitimacy. I can buy a military strike, and a brutal one, without regard for civilian casualties, but the focused butchery of this, splashed across international headlines, feels like something even Japan might flinch away from.

I'll have to think about it.
 
Hm. Y'know, I'm not actually sure if the Japanese could realistically get away with being this blatant. It's not their own territory, where they control all the news outlets. There's no real provocation that justifies a response of this magnitude. It's not Victorian patrol territory, meaning that there haven't been roving death squads rolling through every so often to raze communications infrastructure with the outside world back to the ground. The polity was old and established enough to have built up some contacts in the outside world, and gained some legitimacy. I can buy a military strike, and a brutal one, without regard for civilian casualties, but the focused butchery of this, splashed across international headlines, feels like something even Japan might flinch away from.

I'll have to think about it.
I did mention in the post that Japan had learned of the Coalition's support of the Rainbow Army, in essence interfering with the internal affairs of a 'sovereign nation' by backing what they labeled a plurality of domestic terrorist organizations. That and the presence of the undelivered munitions let Japan claim that the Adan Coalition had been hoping to sow discord among the civilian government in a prelude to an unprovoked invasion of a Japanese protectorate state, which gave them their casus belli, as it were.

And the actual bombardment for the most part was intensely focused on public infrastructure and military targets, and the attempts to clear away the rubble, recover bodies and save people from collapsed buildings were being done with machinery bearing Idaho National Guard markings, which was how the IJA justified strafing them. With water and electricity cut off and no concentrated effort to clear away dead bodies, disease ran amok in the civilian populace. It's not known just how many of Boise's residents actually died in the attacks, because by the end there wasn't anyone left willing to tally the dead, much less bury them before fleeing into the rest of Idaho.
 
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I did mention in the post that Japan had learned of the Coalition's support of the Rainbow Army,
Thrashing a city of seven hundred thousand by means of remote bombardment in sufficient density to depopulate it......
That's a very expensive process.
Expensive in munitions, expensive in PR, expensive in human resources and time.

The 2060s are not the 2040s, and the Imperial Japanese have China to worry about.
And the insurgency in the Phillipines. And the one in South Korea.
And the one in Cascadia almost kicked them off the continent. They are kinda stretched.

I don't know if you'd see more than strikes at the city's leadership, and that's assuming that they have reliable information of actual official leadership involvement. The Coalition is not supposed to be stupid enough to be blatant around a superpower, after all. And in the anarchy of disgoverned America, revivalist groups and fighters are thick on the ground.

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Basically, they should have bigger problems re-securing Cascadia to worry about outlying polities that didn't send overt military forces.
And frankly, if their intelligence missed the signs of an uprising big enough to almost kick them off the continent before it hit, I don't really expect them to track down individual military advisers.
 
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Cool. Though Hawaii and Alaska should probably be marked in as under their colonial masters?

Thanks! I haven't gotten to Hawaii and Alaska yet. Eventually.

Not to mention Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.

Then again, everyone forgets about Puerto Rico.

I'll get around to Puerto Rico also, sooner or later.

Yeah, that map of the Dakotas looks reasonable to me, both as a viable food exporter and an unstable coalition ripe for fracture.
And California looking like that ominous 80-100 million man monster about to chestburst it's way out of the West Coast.
Not able to find Houston, Dallas, Little Rock, New Orleans or Baton Rouge in the southern parts of the map. But those aren't really important yet.

Great work.

Thank you! I hope to finish the West and maybe Texas by the end of the week and move on to the Deep South the week after that.

Gosh, that looks amazing. :D All right. Not canon yet -- the Lloyd Clique omake hasn't even been submitted, let alone canonized, and probably is confusing a few people at the moment, and this remains incomplete for now in any event -- but I really like what I see here.

Excellent.:lol: The border for the NCR are good though, yes? Hopefully I'll have the rest of the map finished in a couple of weeks.
 
This is kind of ignoring Japan's population problem. Unless they suddenly had complete workplace equality and a 'Juplicate for Japan' campaign.
 
This is kind of ignoring Japan's population problem. Unless they suddenly had complete workplace equality and a 'Juplicate for Japan' campaign.
It's a world where ultranationalists took power in Japan and embarked on external conquest.
Large scale social engineering is not beyond them; hell, getting the current Japanese population to go along with conquering SK, the Phillipines and part of Canada more or less requires large scale social engineering.

To address your point? Ban women in the workplace, legislate restrictions on contraception like Ceausescu's Romania and implement incentives to promote woman having children. Alternatively, implement government subsidized childcare, tax incentives for more children, and implement remote-working to allow as many women to work from home or irregularly.

Or a combination. If you are willing to be as intrusive and heavyhanded you can do major things.
Both China and India massively slashed their birth rates over a period of fifty years due to massive government intervention programs.
Turning up hasn't really been a priority for any govt, but it doesn't mean it's not doable.

If we were paying attention to demographics we'd have to look at Russia's, which are also horribly bad and in no way allow what it is supposed to be doing. So let's not.
To be fair, Russia has a much better demographic profile than Japan.
1.8 births per woman compared to 1.3 for Japan, when replacement birth rates hover around 2.1. Add a judicious immigration program and improved healthcare , and Alexei's Russian Empire can manage just fine, especially given the Central Asian republics he ate.
 
To be fair, Russia has a much better demographic profile than Japan.
1.8 births per woman compared to 1.3 for Japan, when replacement birth rates hover around 2.1. Add a judicious immigration program and improved healthcare , and Alexei's Russian Empire can manage just fine, especially given the Central Asian republics he ate.
Demographics, unfortunately, are not as simple as looking at birth rates. The generational gap is vicious and it is literally impossible to do anything about it. Suddenly hiking birth rates, all things considered, is just exacerbating the problem down the line.
 
Demographics, unfortunately, are not as simple as looking at birth rates. The generational gap is vicious and it is literally impossible to do anything about it. Suddenly hiking birth rates, all things considered, is just exacerbating the problem down the line.
Not especially in this case.
Russia has always been open to using judicious numbers of immigrants from the former Soviet republics, and their population distribution is bad but not terrible.

Japan is in a much more difficult pickle due to cultural reasons, but it's also a lot more into automation. And it's still a generation and half between POTUS kersploding the world economy in 2016 and Japan making eyes at the west coast of North America in the 2040s.
Thirty years is a lot of time for things to change.
 
Really, we could just handwave it and say robots are the answer that was applied to that problem.

Presumably there's a reason that the Imperial Japanese Army appears to have replaced most of its occupation forces in Cascadia with automated flying death robots. And to have heavily implied elsewhere to have gone all in on technological military solutions. Though facing down China also helps to explain the need to have all their manpower elsewhere
 
Not especially in this case.
Russia has always been open to using judicious numbers of immigrants from the former Soviet republics, and their population distribution is bad but not terrible.
The main issue for modern Russia is that it's dozens of minorities are all bitterly resentful of their firmly subordinate status - the Chechens being the most famous example, but Moscow's kept up late at night by the thought of, say, the Tartars deciding they want their own country.

On the other hand, I can see Alexander managing to ride that Tiger successfully.
Japan is in a much more difficult pickle due to cultural reasons, but it's also a lot more into automation. And it's still a generation and half between POTUS kersploding the world economy in 2016 and Japan making eyes at the west coast of North America in the 2040s.
Thirty years is a lot of time for things to change.
Seeing as it been half a century current demographic issues are hardly relevant, yes. I believe this was being raised in the context of how on earth Russia and Japan managed to rise to superpower status while crippled by this issue. Hence, the 'don't think about it' response.
 
Odd question:
Is there anything left of Chicago PD and Chicago FD?
's probably not to the level of the original, given the state of technology in North America, but considering that Chicago has continued to exist as a city one would think that was the case. Times of crisis, uncertainty and a decline to the standard of living don't exactly tend to reduce the amount of crime going on.
 
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