To Establish Peace - A Romance of the Three Kingdoms Quest

[Usernames]

Who is 'we' here? Liang Shu or Yu Zhong?

Yu Zhong is possible, but Liang Shu... eh, his INT is 72.

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Liang Shu. I think the difficulty of doing such things with lower than 90 int is harder but if the strategy is legit and rng is nice to us, we get alot of INT increases.
I wanna be like Sima Yi or Zhuge Liang. Not like Zhou Yu who can only think one or two steps ahead.

 

[Binge-Reader]

Liang Shu. I think the difficulty of doing such things with lower than 90 int is harder but if the strategy is legit and rng is nice to us, we get alot of INT increases.
I wanna be like Sima Yi or Zhuge Liang. Not like Zhou Yu who can only think one or two steps ahead.

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Honestly we're better of getting real good at Cha then anything else we can legit recruit those level of smart people but we can't recruit someone to be the charismatic leader cause that's us.

 

[McLuvin]

Honestly we're better of getting real good at Cha then anything else we can legit recruit those level of smart people but we can't recruit someone to be the charismatic leader cause that's us.

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Probably have to focus on War for a little while, Lu Bu is coming to drag us around the province to fight Bandits and Turbans after all...

 

[sleepyanon]

Still going to need some INT, yes we can have people make intricate plans but also just not falling for an enemy's plan is just as well when we can't get into contact like what we just did. Getting more CHA is always good but everything has it's place so saying to just say we are better off doing one thing isn't going to be true. Some people won't want to work with a person who can't fight, or someone who isn't good at politics or someone who isn't smart.

 

[Usernames]

we can improve our int or cha later on. Lu Bu is coming and we need to focus on WAR completely. Maybe to the point we don't bother training anything else.

 

[redzonejoe]

No no no guys we need to power train gov. Because uh... The peasants will revolt if we're not as cool as they think we are, or something? Idk I just wanted to join the discussion

 

[Gaz]

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The flaxen banners of uprising fly over both banks of the Yellow River. With He Jin having brutally and efficiently stamped out the rebellious sects in the capital, the Yellow Turbans elsewhere, lead by the Zhang brothers, rise up with a discordant cacophony of violence. He Jin orders the rebel ringleader in Luoyang, Ma Yuanyi, to be torn apart by chariots and under Imperial command begins investigating any possible co-conspirators within the court. He orders all passes and gateways leading to the capital to be reinforced, and sends his brother He Miao to purge rebels from the regions surrounding the capital. Under the advice of his ministers, the Emperor finally allows those punished by the Partisan incident to take government offices once more, lest the rebellion be burgeoned by the defection of these disenfranchised scholars and gentlemen. Pardons and amnesties are given out to those associated with the Partisan factions.

Zhang Jue, eldest of the Zhang brothers and the cultist who instigated the movement, declares himself General of Heaven. He seizes the city of Guangzhong in Julu and uses it as his base. His second brother, Zhang Bao, names himself General of the Land, and leads a zealous band north to spread the fervour of the rebellion to You province. The third brother, Zhang Liang, styles himself General of the People, and begins training and recruiting men all across Ji province.

All across the Central Plains and Hebei, men rise up in rebellion, raiding cities, seizing armouries and stables, and slaying government officials. The Emperor issues an order for all local governments across the provinces of Jing, Yu, Yan, Xu, Qing, Ji and You to raise militias and garrisons, and gather weapons. A call for volunteers is spread far and wide, and countless loyalists take up arms to protect the dynasty from these rebels. Skirmishes and clashes escalate everywhere. Villages and fields burn. Noble estates are raided, cities besieged, granaries stolen and emptied. The fiefdoms of Han princes and princesses are not spared from this violence, their gold and riches easy targets for the rebels. Many scions of the House of Han are slain, others lose all but the clothes on their backs and become destitute.

Four veteran generals are appointed to command the Han counter attack. Huangfu Song, nephew of the esteemed Huangfu Gui, is sent with Zhu Jun, a commander well versed in quelling rebellions. These two generals gather up soldiers and prepare to march to Yingchuan and Runan, where a huge Yellow Turban force lead by Bo Cai musters. A third general, the world renowned scholar Lu Zhi, gathers up volunteers and heads north, to take the fight to the Zhang brothers. After easily pacifying Henei with the aid of local loyalists, he heads to the Wei commandary, one of the epicentres of the rebellion, gathering up soldiers along the way. He sends a small detachment under Bao Xin into Yan province to help quell the rebellion's spread in that region.
The fourth general, the very experienced Dong Zhuo, waits for further orders, for now. His own army, a force originally raised up to assist in pacifying Bing province, finds its manpower and arms stripped and transferred to the other fronts. For now, he is on hold, but using the opportunity to recoup his numbers and gather more strength.

In Jing province, Nanyang, one of the wealthiest regions in the dynasty, comes under assault by a massive rebel force that had secretly been organising in the area. The Yellow Turban commander, Zhang Mancheng, slays the Grand Administrator Chu Gong, and secures the great city of Wancheng, the "third capital", of the Han, at great embarrassment to the Empire. Nanyang's great wealth and abundant resources begin to be plundered, as the remaining Han loyalists try and regroup. With Nanyang's shockingly swift collapse, Luoyang is now potentially threatened from two directions.

In Yu province, one of the largest concentrations of rebels rises up in Yingchuan. The bountiful and wealthy Runan commandery is pillaged, with many of its commoners forced to either join the swelling rebellion or starve. The Inspector of the province, Wang Yun, gathers up weapons, armour and volunteers in Pei and awaits Zhu Jun and Huangfu Song's reinforcements. The only island of tranquillity in Yu province is the small commandary of Chen, the fief of Han prince Liu Chong. A known adventurer and warrior, he together with his Chancellor Luo Jun gather up elite crossbowmen and guards to protect the princedom and its people, and safeguard the storehouses and granaries.

In the north You province, a riotous, nigh uncontrollable mob of rebels pour into Zhuo and Guangyang. Liu Wei, the Grand Administrator of Guangyang, is swiftly butchered by Zhang Bao, who then attempts to direct the Yellow tide west. In Zhuo, the Han colonel Zou Jing takes command of the local loyalists and volunteers, and sees some success when a newly raised militia lead by Liu Bei joins forces with him.
In Fanyang city, the kind and popular Inspector Liu Yu tries to quell a rioting mob in the town square. He speaks with conviction and honeyed words, appealing to the crowd for reason. He brings orders the city granaries to be opened up, and offers to spread the food evenly among the populace to try and placate them, as well as offering them treasures from his own vault. For a short while, the noise of the mob dins, as the rebels listen to the words of the honourable Liu Yu.
Then, a spear is tossed from the crowd. Liu Yu, a scion of the house of Han and a man extremely popular across the entire northern frontier, dies in seconds. The crowd goes mad, fighting both each other and the city guards. Men and women kill each other and trample the wounded to get to the granary. A spark ignites. The silos go up in flame. Soon, the entire city burns.
Local military leader Xianyu Fu rescues Liu Yu's family and followers, and leads them east to Youbeiping, as the conflagration of violence and rebellion spreads all around them. The dynamic young officer, Gongsun Zan, leads a cavalry force northeast to gather reinforcements from the frontier and the tribes beyond, who are enraged by the murder of the beloved Liu Yu.

The death of a Provincial Inspector, not to mention a member of the House of Liu, sends shockwaves throughout the Middle Kingdom. The slaying of one so beloved and devoted to maintaining peace as Liu Yu only turns people against the rebellion. In Zhuo, Liu Bei solemnly swears to the Heavens that he will avenge his fallen, distant kinsman.

Zhang Bao navigates his overzealous army west through You province...and they swiftly begin pouring over the mountains into Bing Province.

Lu Bu, adopted son of Ding Yuan and dauntless warrior, leads an army south out of the city of Jinyang, gathering more men along the way. He rides to Shangdang, hunting down whatever bandits and criminals he can find.
In his absence, Taiyuan is hit by a shockwave, as rebels spill over from the north and east, apparently aided by the Black Mountain Bandits. Graffiti declaring the end of the Han is drawn on government buildings, and riots begin on the streets of cities all over Taiyuan. Although they initially appeared to be loose allies, within days, some of the mountain clans and bandit chiefs begin clashing with the Yellow Turbans. Ding Yuan musters what he can and marches into a three-way fight for the fate of the commandary. Taking advantage of the chaos, more rebellions spark up throughout the province and more turn to banditry and brigandry, as the weakness of the Han is sensed.
With the rebellion now having spread to Bing province, it can be no doubt that the Emperor and court will have to respond, lest Luoyang be threatened from the north as well. However, due to inactivity from both the court and Ding Yuan himself, much of southern Bing has already been creaking and suffering under the threat of the Black Mountain Bandits.
The ambitious young bandit leader, Chu Yan the Flying Swallow, has looted and raided his way all across Shangdang, and now closes in on the only real pocket of resistance left in the county of Xinshen. As chaos erupts all around the realm, the intents of this dynamic young chieftain soon become clear - he seeks nothing less than to exploit the crumbling of the realm to carve out his own fiefdom.
With soldiers gathered from all over Shangdang and beyond, Xinshen's prefect Zhang Xiu, and the youthful volunteer leader Liang Shu, are all that stand in the way of Chu Yan and severing Han control over the region. Even if they succeed in scattering the brigands back to the mountains, however, can they possibly survive against the yellow waves crashing against Bing? Perhaps, the province's only relief lies in the fourth Han army and its general, who still lie dormant and awaiting commands...

In just a month, the north is shattered by the cries of rebellion, and the calls for a new era. Even as the heroes of the Han march out in every direction, can a swift and decisive end to the conflict truly be found?

 

[Void Stalker]

So it sounds like the death of Liu Yu may actually backfire for the Yellow Turbans in some way and that Dong Zhuo may end up marching to our province. Also Ding Yuan sees the price of waiting on orders which may force him into a more proactive stance and also the fact that he is out and fighting may endear him better in the long run. I am curious which of the above sections are OTL and which are deviations and in what way.

 

[AvidFicReader]

Hoo Boy. We'll have our climactic showdown with Chu Yan soon, and judging from his interlude, it's a grudge match for the both of us. The Yellow Turbans rolled over a major city, and the Han armies will have to siege them down or dig them out at great cost of time and/or men. In the northeast, the Yellow Turbans have become a reviled horde as multitudes unite against them, but they grow in strength as peasants are forced to join or starve.

Northern Bing has turned into a three-way death match, though Ding Yuan has finally been forced to action. Progress, at least? Lu Bu is cutting a swath through the bandits with his army on his way to us. Whether he arrives to decisively shift the tide of battle in our favor with an epic rear charge is up in the air. If we defeat and capture/kill Chu Yan (he's a slippery bastard, and I'd assume he's capable of cutting and running if he's not consumed by rage), we'd have to immediately ride north to aid Ding Yuan.

Whether that means linking up with Lu Bu or joining up with Dong Zhou's mustering army depends on a variety of factors, not the least of which is how intact the Azure Lances will emerge from the battle. With all the Chaos erupting, the last uncommitted army in Northern China is at the command of Big Papa Dong. He quite literally holds the future of China in his thick, meaty palm.

 

[SwordsmanofS]

I can see a rapidly approaching scenario where Dong Zhou shows up to assist in defeating the bandits and we are eventually forced into choosing Ding Yuan or Dong Zhou. However, due to this line:

However, due to inactivity from both the court and Ding Yuan himself, much of southern Bing has already been creaking and suffering under the threat of the Black Mountain Bandits.

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I can see some potential problems for D Yuan pretty soon, especially if Lu Bu and Dong Zhou show up and achieve success in the region. Sucks when all you've been doing is following orders. It do be like that tho.

 

[Void Stalker]

I can see a rapidly approaching scenario where Dong Zhou shows up to assist in defeating the bandits and we are eventually forced into choosing Ding Yuan or Dong Zhou. However, due to this line:

I can see some potential problems for D Yuan pretty soon, especially if Lu Bu and Dong Zhou show up and achieve success in the region. Sucks when all you've been doing is following orders. It do be like that tho.

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This might drive Ding Yuan into the more proactive camp, he did what he was supposed to and still did not receive permission from the court and ended up riding out himself. Same way Dong Zhuo is just sitting waiting on permission.

 

[Erzherzog_Karl]

In Zhuo, the Han colonel Zou Jing takes command of the local loyalists and volunteers, and sees some success when a newly raised militia lead by Liu Bei joins forces with him.

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...our nemesis has risen. Death to the long-eared traitor!

Local military leader Xianyu Fu rescues Liu Yu's family and followers, and leads them east to Youbeiping, as the conflagration of violence and rebellion spreads all around them. The dynamic young officer, Gongsun Zan, leads a cavalry force northeast to gather reinforcements from the frontier and the tribes beyond, who are enraged by the murder of the beloved Liu Yu.

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Good, it will be the height of irony when these two combine forces and end up becoming great friends. It is already great that Gongsun "let's kill the tribes" Zan is looking for allies among tribes. This can turn the guy around and allow him to form a far more powerful power base.

Zhang Bao navigates his overzealous army west through You province...and they swiftly begin pouring over the mountains into Bing Province.

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…motherfucker!

Is part of the East in that region not partly tribe territory?

In Zhuo, Liu Bei solemnly swears to the Heavens that he will avenge his fallen, distant kinsman.

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The long eared liar is just starting out and already spilling such lies.

Lu Bu, adopted son of Ding Yuan and dauntless warrior, leads an army south out of the city of Jinyang, gathering more men along the way. He rides to Shangdang, hunting down whatever bandits and criminals he can find.

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Well, we will get reinforcements. Hammer and anvil. Chu Yan will rue the day he set foot into Xinshen when we are done.

 

[Gaz]

Is part of the East in that region not partly tribe territory?

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Yeah. And they're not going to be too happy when these yellow-clad bandits start traversing their land, and stealing their sheep.

 

[Erzherzog_Karl]

Yeah. And they're not going to be too happy when these yellow-clad bandits start traversing their land, and stealing their sheep.

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So I remembered it right. Thought I read something like that. Maybe we can even get an early in with one of the good ones. Overall great butterflies.

Maybe things will turn around nicely and Lu Bu will become one if not the savior of Bing. I can already see him getting promoted. But I can also see Ding Yuan dying, poor old guy. Never getting the happy ending.

 

[Gaz]

But I can also see Ding Yuan dying, poor old guy. Never getting the happy ending.

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Kinda deserved what he got in the OTL, after he burned down a city on the outskirts of Luoyang and killed everyone inside just to scare some Eunuchs

 

[McLuvin]

So, this battle isn't just about protecting the Province, with the Bandits having helped the Turbans they seem to have been branded traitors too.

From the narrative, it looks like a victory here will count just as much as a victory against the Turbans. Stopping the capitol from being surrounded entirely, we may see a lot of attention from the court after this, as this battle decides wether Southern Bing falls and the capitol becomes surrounded.

Especially if we team up with Lu Bu to secure Northern Bing with Ding afterwards, which we probably will, some of the bandits on our shit list are up there.

 

[Kanata.EXE]

Lu Bu, adopted son of Ding Yuan and dauntless warrior, leads an army south out of the city of Jinyang, gathering more men along the way. He rides to Shangdang, hunting down whatever bandits and criminals he can find.

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The Virgin Chu Yan And His Intricate Planning and Scheming vs The Chad Lu Bu And His Desire to Start Wars For No Reason

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This post becomes relevant.

 

[Erzherzog_Karl]

Kinda deserved what he got in the OTL, after he burned down a city on the outskirts of Luoyang and killed everyone inside just to scare some Eunuchs

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I don't disagree with you there in principle.

My but is it sounds kind of harsh, but compared to others that was low scale. Not everyone is Cao "burns down a region for daddy" Cao, but every major figure was an ass in some way. Bandit Lord Liu Bei, warmonger Sun Ce, Yuan 'famine' Shu etc.

And many of them got better end or a remembered with a sterling reputation.

 

[Thanatosra]

Liu Wei, the Grand Administrator of Guangyang, is swiftly butchered by Zhang Bao

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So is this guy related to Liu Bei cause it seems weird he would proclaim vengeance for one distant kinsman or was it just because Liu Yu was more popular. Also the guy who killed a Grand Administrator is on his way to possible kill a second.

 

[Gaz]

I don't disagree with you there in principle.

My but is it sounds kind of harsh, but compared to others that was low scale. Not everyone is Cao "burns down a region for daddy" Cao, but every major figure was an ass in some way. Bandit Lord Liu Bei, warmonger Sun Ce, Yuan 'famine' Shu etc.

And many of them got better end or a remembered with a sterling reputation.

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Not sure if Yuan Shu got a better end but I do agree.

Good men like Liu Yu meet miserable and premature ends, regardless of the timeline, apparently

 

[Erzherzog_Karl]

So is this guy related to Liu Bei cause it seems weird he would proclaim vengeance for one distant kinsman or was it just because Liu Yu was more popular. Also the guy who killed a Grand Administrator is on his way to possible kill a second.

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I don't know this guy in particular, but not every Liu was automatically related to the imperial family. Liu Yu was one similar to Liu Chong, others I am not sure.

And of course, the long-eared liar only cares about famous people -.-. Pretentious conman are always like that.

 

[Jack_Trade]

Yeah. And they're not going to be too happy when these yellow-clad bandits start traversing their land, and stealing their sheep.

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"We're not stealing your sheep, we're reappropriating them for the glorious revolution comrade. if you don't want to starve, then I suggest you join up." - Some random Yellow Turban addressing an angry mob of tribesmen probably.

 

[Kanata.EXE]

"We're not stealing your sheep, we're reappropriating them for the glorious revolution comrade. if you don't want to starve, then I suggest you join up." - Some random Yellow Turban addressing an angry mob of tribesmen probably.

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"It's not stealing, it's surprise relocation."
- EA Yellow Turban bandit

 

[Usernames]

Huh. Without Liu Yu, Gongsun Zan would rise to power much quicker. Hell it be ironic if he let go of the "kill all tribes" mentality and recruits the tribes who want revenge for Liu Yu.

Barbarians they might be, they know to return kindness with kindness and cruelty with cruelty.

...not only that but we also got an in with Gongsun Zan thanks to family connections.

...holy shit. Liu He, Liu Yu son might come early into the battlefield to get revenge for his father. He is an palace attendant but he might be willing to put on armor, armed himself, get on a horse and go fight yellow turbans.

in OG timeline, he join Yuan Shao for revenge against Gongsun Zan for framing his father and decapitating him. There also Liu Yao who is brothers of Liu He and son of Liu Yu who became an warlord and Liu Ji who is son of Liu Yao who was favored by Sun Quao, one of the 3 emperors during the era of the 3 kingdoms ( Liu Shuo and Liu Shang were also Liu Ji brothers but they weren't important.)

Needless to say this changes things. For all we know, Liu Yu family might become close friends with Gongsun Zan....unless Gongsun Zan was behind Liu Yu death.

 

[Gaz]

Huh. Without Liu Yu, Gongsun Zan would rise to power much quicker. Hell it be ironic if he let go of the "kill all tribes" mentality and recruits the tribes who want revenge for Liu Yu.

Barbarians they might be, they know to return kindness with kindness and cruelty with cruelty.

...not only that but we also got an in with Gongsun Zan thanks to family connections.

...holy shit. Liu He, Liu Yu son might come early into the battlefield to get revenge for his father. He is an palace attendant but he might be willing to put on armor, armed himself, get on a horse and go fight yellow turbans.

in OG timeline, he join Yuan Shao for revenge against Gongsun Zan for framing his father and decapitating him. There also Liu Yao who is brothers of Liu He and son of Liu Yu who became an warlord and Liu Ji who is son of Liu Yao who was favored by Sun Quao, one of the 3 emperors during the era of the 3 kingdoms ( Liu Shuo and Liu Shang were also Liu Ji brothers but they weren't important.)

Needless to say this changes things. For all we know, Liu Yu family might become close friends with Gongsun Zan....unless Gongsun Zan was behind Liu Yu death.

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Nah, Ge Maiyu is clearly to blame