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To Establish Peace - A Romance of the Three Kingdoms Quest

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Erzherzog_Karl said:
We are just taking risks with Shu in hope of him dying, so that we can finally play as Mi. I thought you knew that Gaz ^^

Therefore, her pairing is sacred and may never be questioned.
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What are you talking about? Liang Shu loves all of his friends. These days he has spent with them were some of the best of his life. He wishes these perfect days would never end. In fact, he has miniature portraits he carries around with him so he can share them with others. And he is so close to achieving his life's goal of avenging his father. Besides, he told Lingqi that he will be right back. Furthermore, he is only two days from retirement. And if in the heat of battle anyone asks if he is okay, his answer will be always be "I'm okay"/deathflags

So yeah, I'm sure he will be fine.
 
Erzherzog_Karl said:
Boah, I mean I can be ruthless, but ElleonXan is on another level.
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Yes, well, I've been at this for quite a while. From April 2019:
Gaz said:
This is very wuxia. Also, if this was a story where Liang Shu wasn't the hero, it sounds like there'd be a death flag flying here :D
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ElleonXan said:
Oh no, you've uncovered my secret plan to get our character killed so we can start playing Liang Mi's Socially Inappropriate Male Harem of All Famous Three Kingdoms Generals Quest...
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Secret plans were not working. I figured I had to be... less subtle.
 
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Real question. I wonder how badly would Maiyu negaverse react if she knews our group stats and the fact we have like 4 or 5 S rank officers? (lingqi is S rank right Gaz?)
Or the fact she lost an potential A or S rank officer cause her brother was an asshole (Gongsun Ye stat lineup is amazing~)

or the fact that liang shu has no caps?

Or the fact we beat Zhu fang despite an 10+ point stat differences in WAR?
 
Usernames said:
Real question. I wonder how badly would Maiyu negaverse react if she knews our group stats and the fact we have like 4 or 5 S rank officers?
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"How the fuck did he get all of them! HAX!"

Usernames said:
Or the fact she lost an potential A or S rank officer cause her brother was an asshole (Gongsun Ye stat lineup is amazing~)
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"Fuck you, brother!"

Usernames said:
or the fact that liang shu has no caps?
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"Liang Shu OP! Pls Nerf!"

Usernames said:
Or the fact we beat Zhu fang despite an 10+ point stat differences in WAR?
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"What is he!? Shonen protagonist!?"
 
@Gaz, quick question: when creating characters, the familial perks all specify that the created character must be a "fairly distant family relation" to the historical character. But how far away does this relation have to be?

Would a particularly unfavored grandchild be enough? A brother or cousin's grandchild? An inlaw's (someone married to a sibling) cousin? How far does it need to be before it is far enough?

Because I'm not going to lie, I'm starting to have an idea for a character, but if a child/niece/nephew of Niu Fu is too close to Dong Zhuo for it to work, I might have to re-work what I've got so far.
 
ElleonXan said:
@Gaz, quick question: when creating characters, the familial perks all specify that the created character must be a "fairly distant family relation" to the historical character. But how far away does this relation have to be?

Would a particularly unfavored grandchild be enough? A brother or cousin's grandchild? An inlaw's (someone married to a sibling) cousin? How far does it need to be before it is far enough?

Because I'm not going to lie, I'm starting to have an idea for a character, but if a child/niece/nephew of Niu Fu is too close to Dong Zhuo for it to work, I might have to re-work what I've got so far.
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Somewhat unfavoured cousin, niece or nephew should be fine.

Also Karl gets 8 Merit Points, ElleonXan gets 6.

Might allow people to dump their merit points into a communal pool, which anyone can dip into? Thoughts?
 
I imagine that Negaverse Ge Maiyu quest had the opportunity to recruit at least half of the options if they made the right choices (it was already comfirmed by Gaz that Yu Zhong first went to the Ge to be recruited and they rejected them, so that would entirely be on Negaverse's fault there) but since the players were arrogantly thinking "I bet this OC will go nowhere and this Liang Shu seems competent but not super powerful we don't need to worry" near the start they unintentially squandered every advantage they had up until they got to this turn when everything goes to shit for them as a cascade of poor choices, bad luck & Liang Shu here consistently getting really good roles and so making good choices eventually made their entire faction basically reach the point where it is about to collapse.

So Negaverse Gaz is less of a dick here and more the negaverse players were kind of incompetent and Negavarse Gaz was happy to allow them to get enough rope to hang themselves.
 
Transferable points were made illegal by you Gaz to prevent minimaxing.
Gaz said:
The best answer I can give - negaverse Gaz is a dick. Imagine if I gave the Ge family Zhang He or someone in this quest :V
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Lul that pretty bad. Our most broken units are those with LEA or WAR (looking at you Zhu Fang (76 LEA with 89 WAR), Ziang Liao (84 LEA with 90 WAR) and Lingqi (84 WAR but she as stupid as she is thicc in her WAR stat))

But the most dangerous one is Yu Zhong. 85 Int is the biggest INT stat that we know exist in the region. 76 GOV and 73 CHA is also alot. All the needed stats to uncover conspiracies. But besides those stats is his most dangerous 2 things he has.

His burning Ambition and his Pragmatic view in life. Those two things which led to his distrust of the Ge family alongside anyone else is enough to make doubts...doubts which prove to be correct.

Thanks Ge family. now we going to be sleeping with one eye open in the future.

I even bet Yu Zhong is even thanking the Ge family. Without them, He wouldn't have reach such rapport with us so quickly nor have Liang Shu point of view get closer to Yu Zhong at such a time frame.

Without them killing Liang Shu father, he wouldn't have found such a raw talent pool (I can only imagine what Yu Zhong negaverse would react to the group stats,the group high caps, Liang Shu not having any caps at all or the fact that Liang shu is about to be lu bu son in law while getting another S rank person to be with him (lu lingqi)) and great starting point for his dream of ridding the land of corruption.
 
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Usernames said:
Transferable points were made illegal by you Gaz to prevent minimaxing.
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Oh, did I say that already? I honestly said I lot of things so long ago I can't even remember what my own policies are anymore

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Without them killing Liang Shu father, he wouldn't have found such a raw talent pool (I can only imagine what Yu Zhong negaverse would react to the group stats, caps Liang Shu lack of stats or the fact that Liang shu is about to be lu bu son in law) and great starting point for his dream of ridding the land of corruption.
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Yu Zhong negaverse would be interesting, not gonna lie.
 
Binge-Reader said:
Seems like it be people who know the Han is fucked playing him to be as aware of that fact as he can be in character and prepping him to be a major man behind the man to any number of warlords.
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>Liang Shu pursing Lu bu daughter
>What an mad lad
>Losing an bet to Zhu Fang tho oof
>we bet that Liang shu would go for Ge Maiyu
>later on we think Ge Maiyu might be behind the prefect death and the framing of said death on liang shu alongside the ge family involvement on liang shu father death
>happy we lost on the bet
>still uncertain cause we don't want to tell liang shu without proof nor do we want to lose his trust nor him going paranoid
>we get on a debate with liang shu about the han fall
>things get a bit spicy between us but nothing severe.
>we find out the ge family are going full asshole mode
>liang shu retaliates and completely fucks the ge family up socially and we found out the prefect is getting close to actual evidence about the Ge involved with fucking up liang shu life
>we also expose corruption while installing talented men who are loyal to us
>liang shu is one step closer to telling the han dynasty to fuck off
>Dong Zhao is also happy as fuck which is good cause happy Dong Zhao is not unhappy Dong Zhao. unhappy Dong Zhao is no good.
>good thing liang shu dodge that bullet about marrying ge maiyu
>good thing we also dodge that bullet about being hired by the Ge family. Man those are a bunch of rich losers. Look at those stats. No S rank characters? Heh, Pathetic.
 
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Also they are massive fans of their best friend (and now future brother in law) Liang Shu and after rescuing Liang Zhen they went full "let's waifu Liang Shu's youngest sister. She's a cute tsundere." :p (To be fair on the tsundere joke she was initially quite belligerent with Zhu Fang and their introduction to each other really does feel a bit like the first meeting of a tsundere & her love interest.)

By the way, do have to ask, what interactions did Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen have whilst Liang Shu was in "dense idiot mode" about the Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen romance that helped them fall in love with each other if that is all right to answer? @Gaz I'm asking since if I do decide to do a Zhu Fang negaverse omake it would be helpful to know what stuff went on in the background as Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen ended up as a couple in order to better help responses.

(Actually I could have the negaverse omake be about when Liang Shu finally realises that there is something between Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen and talked to them about it and basically gave it his blessing in the future.)
 
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Gaz said:
Zhu Fang negaverse is just that one reader (can't remember who it was, sorry) who has consistantly pushed to spam raising WAR
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There likely one person in Yu Zhong negaverse who want more WAR...these are his thoughts and comments.

>romance of the 3 kingdoms
>not being an war spec character
>still knowing we gotta dynasty warriors this shitto
>we don't need to the greatest warrior in the land. we only need 80 WAR. I mean 85. I really mean 90. I honestly mean 95. 95 is good enough with some equipment to reach 100+ right?
>So 100+ War is what we need in the future. Yes. That what I mean in the first place.
 
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Daniella_c2 said:
Also they are massive fans of their best friend (and now future brother in law) Liang Shu and after rescuing Liang Zhen they went full "let's waifu Liang Shu's youngest sister. She's a cute tsundere." :p (To be fair on the tsundere joke she was initially quite belligerent with Zhu Fang and their introduction to each other really does feel a bit like the first meeting of a tsundere & her love interest.)

By the way, do have to ask, what interactions did Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen have whilst Liang Shu was in "dense idiot mode" about the Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen romance that helped them fall in love with each other if that is all right to answer? @Gaz If I do decide to do a Zhu Fang negaverse omake I would like to know what stuff went on in the background as the Zhu Fang negaverse quest went to romance Liang Zhen.
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Zhu Fang and Zhen interactions were genuinely unintentional at first but I quickly felt like they had some pretty cute chemistry.
As for what happened in the background, I did leave it pretty vague due to Shu's POV. The thread voted against investigating/questioning the pair multiple times, which resulted in Shu being a rather dense big brother at first. I'm not 100% sure myself what happened between them, only thing I am certain of is Zhen was surprised and impressed that Fang was a genuinely nice guy, and she was rather apologetic at dismissing him for being a brute initially. This resulted in her starting to teach him etiquette, and Fang realising her initial bossiness was just her trying to keep up appearances and such.
Apart from that? It was pretty vague as it was always in the background. The first sparks would have happened off screen during the first Xinshen visit when he escorted her to the marketplace and carried all her crap, and things would have gotten "offical" I guess during the tournament arc

One important thing about them is they are both very emotional people who tend to act more on instinct than reason. They're both stubborn as hell too.
 
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Huh, I didn't realise the initial sparks were that early on. I honestly figured that the initial sparks happened after Zhu Fang saved Liang Zhen in the bandit attack. Interesting.

I guess that would be the point where the negaverse Zhu Fang group thought "You know, she's not actually a bad person at all, honestly she is pretty cool character even with that initial introduction. We should hang out with her more often." Alongside the few who early one wanted to have Zhu Fang end up with her which became a bigger and bigger faction of the fanbase until it happened.

Also I guess Zhu Fang negaverse had Zhu Fang pay a bit more attention to Liang Shu's interactions with Lu Lingqi than we had Liang Shu pay attention to Zhu Fang & Liang Zhen's interactions since they accurately guessed who Liang Shu would end up with in the bet. :V
 
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Daniella_c2 said:
Huh, I didn't realise the initial sparks were that early on. I honestly figured that the initial sparks happened after Zhu Fang saved Liang Zhen in the bandit attack. Interesting.

I guess that would be the point where the negaverse Zhu Fang group thought "You know, she's not actually a bad person at all, honestly she is pretty cool character even with that initial introduction. We should hang out with her more often." Alongside the few who early one wanted to have Zhu Fang end up with her which became a bigger and bigger faction of the fanbase until it happened.
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"A Brother's Worry" was, IIRC, the update where I first started seriously considering them as a pairing, for what it's worth. So yeah, pretty early on.

Now, one of the real interesting questions is how Fang and Zhong became such good friends...(Alcohol and laughing at Shu in the background both played a role)
Now
 
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