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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Briefvoice said:
Ling Qi isn't the "father" of the family; she's the daughter. This is the exact time in her life when she's supposed to ignore her family to focus on herself and her career. That's not 'salaryman', that's being a graduate student at a very competitive university. Calls home at night and brief visits is the right and appropriate way to live.
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She is the head of her clan. She is not a graduate student living on her familly money, she is the breadmaker and the one with power over the rest of her familly. She is the matriarch of the clan.
 
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)

I would find it pretty funny, if this doesn´t actually force us to spend time with family, but instead gives us the monthly option to spend an AP, like cultivation.

Imagine every turn this discussion! The drama. The salt. The calculation.

It would be glorious.
 
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I'm not sure if people are realizing the gravity of this vote. This could honestly be the make-or-break decision for our future with CRX.
 
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veekie said:
On the contrary, now, in the Sect, is likely the most free time we'd ever have for the foreseeable future.

We're in College. Theres assignments pinching at us, theres connections to be made, and theres that killer Final Year Project/Thesis Defense looming ahead with vague requirements for passing.

Once we go out, we have duties in the army, where our family is unlikely to be anywhere near, for our own peace of mind if nothing else. We have duties to the fief administration, and given a border fief, is going to involve flying out there and alternately punching or bribing uppity spirits. All of which makes it much harder than meeting our family in a safe zone, within a short sprint of our primary work and residential area, and where we're free to set our own schedule.

Yrsillar is not in the habit of giving meaningless event choices.
Our choices define how Ling Qi does things in the absence of a specific decision point.
Our choice to try to turn every social action into cultivation meant that our social time with our friends is primarily focused around Exploration(which is actually cultivation because EPC), Sparring(which is actually cultivation because EPC) or Meditating(which is cultivation). With the natural consequence of drifting away from socials which do not provide any immediate cultivation advantages.
We've tried with limited success to pair up our social links so we can do more of them at once. Didn't work out though.

This choice effectively means that we make a conscious decision to place our cultivation above family concerns, though we've yet to place work within that ranking.
And the entire arc leading up to this choice is all about facing and acknowledging that we've been doing so.

On a more practical level, look at our social event allotment and look at the upcoming issues we need to fix in our Family Circle:
-Qingge is now Red. What now for her cultivation? She can use drugs now, and we could check out Red arts(particularly cultivation arts, since our Red cultivation art is Sect-only) of reasonable quality for her to keep progressing.
--Do we want to introduce her to our friends now that she has a minimum competency? Meizhen may need more preparation, but Xiulan or Suyin should be fine. Do we want to introduce her to our boss?

-Zhengui had just woken up in Green, he needs to adjust to his new power and he needs to get to know Sixiang, as well as work out how he functions as a team with Hanyi.

-Hanyi has massive amounts of fresh trauma that needs to be adapted to. She's also got little tact or social graces, both of which needs work if she's to not disrupt other activities. Qingge took it in good grace, but if we wish her to perform with us at the parties, she's going to need to learn to avoid causing offense first.

-Sixiang is fine for now.

At our current spread of socials per turn, if we want to address all these, then we're going to be looking at missing out on:
-Cai Renxiang - We keep meaning to meet her in more of a context than work and cultivation, but its always put off since its not in a rush. It'd be put off again of course.

-Xuan Shi - We've passed over his link twice now, because of various more urgent concerns. I don't think any of us would contest that our family concerns are going to be prioritized over him.

-Shen Hu - New link, not a big deal either way.

Meizhen, Suyin and Xiulan are fine for now. We've not had much Meizhen time lately though.
Either way, we are unlikely to be getting more social time without spending actual time on things are we?
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Yeah, it's hs/college. We should be spending time with our friends and building bonds that we're sure will last. Our fam gonna be there all the time. I also want to build off that. WE GET to move our fam with us. In all probability to the same city we'll be based in. That won't be the case for our other friends.
 
Knock it off with the fearmongering.

Even CRX spends AP every week doing non cultivation actions, and she has much more at stake.
 
The crazy demon said:
She has the dosh so she doesn't have to explore, or do sect jobs, or archive dives tho.

Thing we do all the time.
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I don't think CRX's actions are based on AP or any other system either. Her cultivation and art progress should just be scaled up narratively based on how hard working she is relative to Ling Qi and the resources available to her.
Adhoc vote count started by Huo Yuhao on Apr 3, 2019 at 12:45 PM, finished with 374 posts and 163 votes.
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[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
In all honesty I won't mind too much if 'more time to family wins', as I think both options have their ups and downs.

Status quo gives us a better chance of succeeding Shenhua's task, when we really need all the help we can get, whilst the other would give us more nebulous benefits, likely along the lines of better socialisation of our spirits (particularly mortal acclimatisation) as well as potentially giving us some kind of synergy with our Way (though it should be noted that Status Quo might also give us those opportunities albeit at a smaller chance of occurrence, considering we'll still be spending time with the family/have the occasional option for Social votes).

I'm voting for Status Quo as I'm honestly not sure we'll be able to make Shenhua's goal for us as is, let alone if we lose that much AP over the course of both years. Zeqing's main problem with our actions was in how we treated our mother (like a mushroom) and these last few updates have been about her taking steps to correct that. Status quo shouldn't make us backslide or anything ridiculous like that.

EDIT: Also not entirely sure why people think going for Shenhua's task and taking care of our family are mutually exclusive. Both votes in the end will try and benefit them, just in different ways.
 
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Huo Yuhao said:
I'm not sure if people are realizing the gravity of this vote. This could honestly be the make-or-break decision for our future with CRX.
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No, it very likely won't. Choosing to spend more time with our family will make it harder, but it's not going to be impossible.

That said, going for family will cost us stuff like nonessential side-board arts, Aduacious Fairy's Lark comes to mind, which could be useful down the line. We will probably get better SL's with outlet spirits than otherwise though.
 
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Huo Yuhao said:
I'm not sure if people are realizing the gravity of this vote. This could honestly be the make-or-break decision for our future with CRX.
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Right, it's not like the last several pages haven't been doomsaying about how Shenhua's going to personally murder Ling Qi and her family...

The gravity of the situation is well realized at this point, the issue at hand is that people demonstrably do not agree on the gravity of the situation.
 
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)

A vote just like Brexit. Lovely.
 
Zithinoth said:
No, it very likely won't. Choosing to spend more time with our family will make it harder, but it's not gonna be impossible. That said, going for family will cost us stuff like nonessential side-board arts like Aduacious Fairy's Lark, which could be useful down the line. We will probably get better SL's with outlet spirits than otherwise though.
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There's a high chance we won't have time for Archive 1 arts anymore regardless of which option we choose.

Zeful said:
Right, it's not like the last several pages haven't been doomsaying about how Shenhua's going to personally murder Ling Qi and her family...

The gravity of the situation is well realized at this point, the issue at hand is that people demonstrably do not agree on the gravity of the situation.
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It's a tough decision either way for me. I just want to make sure people understand that there's a good chance we'll need Green 6 to reach Rank 530, which isn't guaranteed to happen even if we don't choose to sacrifice the AP. Choosing to spend more time with our family makes it even harder.
Adhoc vote count started by Huo Yuhao on Apr 3, 2019 at 1:12 PM, finished with 380 posts and 165 votes.
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Huo Yuhao said:
I don't think CRX's actions are based on AP or any other system either. Her cultivation and art progress should just scaled up narratively based on how hard working she is relative to Ling Qi and the resources available to her.
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Regardless of however her progress is simulated, we know she doesn't need to perform certain actions that we do need to perform to increase our resources
 
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)

Ling Qi just slotted FVM and FSS into her domain. As long as she can build something for the ones she loves she'll consider it worth any loneliness and hardship. And unless they die she'll have time to spend with them in the future.
 
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)

I consider this an important investment at this juncture.
 
Huo Yuhao said:
There's a high chance we won't have time for Archive 1 arts anymore regardless of which option we choose.



It's a tough decision either way for me. I just want to make sure people understand that there's a good chance we'll need Green 6 to reach Rank 530, which isn't guaranteed to happen even if we don't choose to sacrifice the AP. Choosing to spend more time with our family makes it even harder.
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Baloney, Green 6 is the level of the top 100-200. Green 5 seems to be where the 500 bracket is, which is fairly comfortably achievable.

The real problem has never been our cultivation ranks, it's been insights and Art Quality, and the latter is something we have little control over.
 
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
I just want muh cultivation. GAS! GAS! GAS! :V

Froyo Baggins said:
Also, anyone else dislike that turns are monthly now and want to go back to weekly?
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No, weekly turns were terrible. It made the final stages of book one last for 20-30 updates longer than it needed to. Never go back.
 
Alectai said:
Baloney, Green 6 is the level of the top 100-200. Green 5 seems to be where the 500 bracket is, which is fairly comfortably achievable.

The real problem has never been our cultivation ranks, it's been insights and Art Quality, and the latter is something we have little control over.
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Do we actually know this? That seems like a very huge gap. Bao Qingling, as a production track disciple, is ranked 540 while at Green 5. Ruan Shen, as a combat track disciple, is ranked 627 while at Green 5. I'm not saying it's guaranteed or even likely, but it seems like there's a significant chance we'll need Green 6 to reach rank 530 on the combat track, unless I'm missing something.
Adhoc vote count started by Huo Yuhao on Apr 3, 2019 at 1:44 PM, finished with 389 posts and 171 votes.
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[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
 
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)

Ceaseless determination is the only way to reach our greatest heights.
 
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