Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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When we get back after all this chaos, I would be honored of you would find the time to have a drink with me. My grandmother allowed me a good bit of leeway in raiding the opposing faction's wine cellar.

YOOOO the Good Stuff
The Meng definitely have nonzero shrines to Joyous Rambling Revelry in their clan holdings.

Also, the more I think about this, the more sense it makes. Of all people, Meng Dan will recognize how important diplomacy is to LQ, and having the skills and willingness to try cooperation even in fairly extreme situations will be important to have for anyone wanting to be close to her longterm.
 
Q&A stuff.

High realm Bai snakes.
Full snake Bai are even less interested in other provinces than the more isolationist human Bai, they are still loyal to their cousins but they tend to find their court games alienating and confusing, so there is a bit of a divide there
I would say in addition to suzhen's snek there's probably maybe one other prism and a eight or nine violets which is about half of where they were at their height probably?
Western Territories western border.
Realistically it goes some five or six days as a green rides west of Rammadh in a vague hazy line down to the mountains. They are as noted aware of the barrier princes, which are the east most outposts of Khusan
but said princes respond to anything human coming out of the jungle with nuclear missile arrows, so there's been no diplo this was alluded to in the summit negotiations
Ancient neighbour relations.
Yao had wandered through the Red garden on his journey and so had become familiar with its dangers in his way. He elected to stop at Tiesha instead of conquering further west, because he mostly didn't want to deal with them as he found fighting their high realms annoying
this was basically writ into Bai tradition as 'don't bother nothing of value, over there
until the whole sage stuff happened, and some of the elder Bai present in his armies got a front row seat to the fuckery that happened in the war and after the sgae died
Under Tsu the Forest and Hill people were mostly peaceable, with some conflicts over land and movement and hunting rights. The Cloud were never at peace with them and still raided as they pleased where they pleased in the south, but it was a lighter sort of conflict, more livestock rustling than burn the village and salt the earth
The Peaks post-Strife.
The Ao were very much a... compromise candidate and it should tell you how awful the strife was that the Bai allowed themselves to support that :p
the Peaks were still restive but like they'd just gotten wrecked and dragon mama incinerated the population of the imperial city so they were not in a great position
The reaction like in the capital when they heard the Living Isle and Father of Depths were about to have a go at each other.
Spitting blood and shitting pants for sure
Other countries opinions on the Imperial provinces.
Khusan... Probably likes the Xuan the most the Alabaster sands the least for obvious reasons, but they'd mostly regard the full scope of the empire and its structures with alarm... and probably another outbreak of ambition cloaked under 'uniting against the threat
Khem honestly would probably prefer the Celestial peaks as the most orderly and sensible of all the provinces, and disdain the emerald seas for its crushing internal probablems and wild unhinged advancement and change under Shenhua as they would see it
Nidavellr would swiftly make the assessment that you are customers rather than marks and probably have a jolly good time merchant dueling with the Jin
while disliking the Bai for holding grudges so long and harshly
The Sarasids... probably find the Celestial Peaks the most comforting and regard the Zheng with disdain and or horror for their wildness and poor governance according to their standard
Pyrhhos doesn't really have a united front to present but they really hate pirates so fuck the Jin
they might like the ebon rivers quite alot though
Polar gates is in story stuff to explore
Banu probably likes the Thousand Lakes for their metalworking traditions and sensible treatment of traitors, but dislikes the Golden Fields for a lot of complicated reasons, most of which aren't really their fault
Banabar... spoiler, they probably think An had some good ideas even if he was hopelessly crippled in his aims by his material conditions
Jeweled Court: Pfft, well the Jin HATE them, so I imagine they won't be friendly
but they would probably still have a massive vengeance boner against the Bai so I don't know where that shakes out
they probably don't like anybody lol
Generally I suppose theres a neutral admiration for their (Golden Fields) ruggedness in the face of ruin, Pyrrhos probably likes their individual heroic spirit, but not a lot of super strong opinions there. I suppose they probably would be the ones Banabar likes the most for what they've done with what they have
Choosing clan heads.
The previous heads will weighs strongly but ultimately its down to the choice of the clans elders, though they're generally reluctant to outright go against the heads will(who will have politicked with them for their support anyway)
but typically there is a declared heir and without a good reason they generally just step in most clans prefer the stability of knowing who is next in line
Smithing lore.
Well, Blacksmithing is a sub-category of talisman craft here, as Talisman craft covers all physical inanimate objects being enhanced and imbued with qi. But it is a pretty major sub category and has tons of methods and traditions that fall under its umbrella. I haven't thought too deeply on it since it isn;t the story focus.
However, I imagine much more than other methods blacksmithing requires a great deal of investment into the tools you use for your craft, I think most blacksmithing traditions would probably have you developing those as your first serious non apprentice work, and you might even take them all the way up your climb in cultivation with you
I think the oldest traditions would also have a lot of crossover with geomancy in determining the locations of the perfect ores and heavy focus on cultivating your materials, whereas the more modern methods are drifting away from that, with more streamlined purification processes, there's probably a bit of conflict there
Dragon courts pre-Empire.
Generally the court of the South was fighting the ancient cloud nomads in a vicious war of extermination, which gradually ground down to a draw
They were each approached by Dragon mama and the Sage and generally got their blessings
most were pleased to see someone properly taking charge of things in the right way
Considering what the dragons did when they were in charge their approval makes me want to spit.

Rabbit Sublime, and if he has a thousand enemies.
Haha, well if so he battles them in realms beyond mens knowing
sure I could see something like that as a diety over in the more plains parts of the bllack forest region
Imperial scions marrying ducals.
Yeah its fairly common to have at least one active marriage going both ways for stability
that is one imperial in and one ducal out
its not usually the heir though
thats pretty out there
Sublime Ancestors in other civilizations.
There are, Banu's got there eight headed adamanat scaled dragon hydra thing for example
and the Black Forest gallic/celt/germanic regions have plenty of regional nature gods who probably count without actually being ancestors in the strictest sense
Yeah there definitely some holy beasts kicking around in Khusan
Ducal banners.
The Cai have their red butterfly emerging from a cocoon, the Guo have a blazing sun framed by two raised scorpion claws
the Ebon Rivers is a stylized grinning ape face
the Thousand Lakes is a blue-white banner split by a diagonal black spear outline cause Yao was simple like that
Alabaster Sands uses the outline of one of their ships on a blue background
Spirits qualifying for king.
It is basically another way of saying a natural sovereign, but the world is vast and chaotic, and so even beasts you wouldn't think of as that can find their niches and rise
Though Owls specifically are actually seen as deathly symbols so I didn;t make that one up its an rl culture thing
Inner Sect ranks and Green stages.
yeah top hundred are all G7/G8 with the occasional cyan sprinkled in that top before they get promoted
next hundred down are probably g6 with 3-500 being scatterings of G4-G5 and a few up and comers picked out by the elders
Meng geomancer and Shenglu defense rating.
Yeah like if some cloud warband rolled in and there was nobody there he wouldn't stand aside and watch Shenglu burn but more minor threats are beneath his notice unless they come from something geomancy related
The Sima clan's current situation.
They are still a count clan and they're still some of the best divination practioners, but their position is much reduced, they're probably the weakest of the current landed count clans in the Celestial Peaks, but 'weakest count clan' is still pretty darn strong
and they have plenty of up and coming talents who they're happy to spend money like water on to see advance
Why the Jin wouldn't want Shenhua to come visit in her full glory:
Well lets just say they have some research interests that might be a bit borderline legally speaking
Beast ceiling under their Sublime:
You still get the occasional prisms, but white beasts of the sublimes type only very rarely happen, typically only when the sublimes domain and descendants are under extreme stress
so you saw a couple during the strife, but not really since
White vs Great Spirit Law:
Yeah Shenhua is definitely a hard spoiler.
So the biggest difference is scope. A white law is enforced at its max potency at a fairly limited range as things go
a great spirits law is 'weaker' but it generally covers an entire province, or even the whole empire and maybe some ways beyond
So Unity of blades probably looks a bit like Yuan He?
his domain is probably a leadership and army based thing that lets him unite the wills and strength of his soldiers into something far beyond what they could be on their own
whereas the drunk Zheng is probably a rolling mobile perma-party intoxicating to even be near let alone involved with
Western Territories cultivators bonding native spirits:
The ones who get bound are usually defeated in single combat by their binder and have enough respect to watch their tongues around their binders, though there is certainly an undercurrent of 'you'll see the light)
The spirit of lake Tiesha:
It is an utterly unforgiving, incredibly violent spirit, which has regular massive flooding from the spring melt running wild in the gorges it runs into going toward the sea. Its an intensely touchy spirit and even the White serpents are very careful in interacting with and performing rites too it
its also a river
though there are quite a few lakes along its span
Most dramatic sacrifices in Imperial history:
So yes Lu Guanxi is the ur example of heroic sacrifice(even if the feeling is a bit more mixed and bitter in the actual golden fields)
Second place would probably come in for the first jewel emperor, not the man himself but his sworn brother Bai Lijie, who sacrificed himself defending the mans camp from encirclement by one of his older brothers, and bought them time to link up with their other allies... and incidentally bringing a wing of the Bai onto his side view vengeance spiral, as he was popular and well liked among the white serpents of the time.
Third place would probably be Cao Liang, founder of said Cao clan in the peaks, who earned his count title while fighting in the Grand Muster against the Twilight King, who held one of the eastmost passes in the ebon rivers for three full weeks without being subsumed after the lines in the golden fields broke and prevented a flanking advance of Dead from penetrating into the interior of the Ebon Rivers.
Shenhua fans outside the Emerald Seas:
She has a number of admirers in the peaks and indeed, the more rebellious faction of the Zheng definitely points to her as an example of what they want to be doing
White mentality:
White cultivators are basically past the point of experiencing envy unless they've someone gotten up there with a way centered on it, like say a Conquerer's way, though I'm not even sure that would strictly be envy anymore. Being a white cultivator rather centers your existence and tends to make you convinced that what you're doing is the most important thing after all.
 
Speaking of Joyous Rambling Revelry, I hope we get to see a drunk Bai Suzhen at the wedding. I asked Yrs what drunk White Serpents are like, and it's basically like angry Captain Holt (RIP) except with a significantly greater risk of being poisoned.

Catty and sarcastic.
 
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Year 45 Month 13 Arc 3-1
Ling Qi tossed the scroll in her hands aside and sighed, rubbing her forehead as she squeezed her eyes shut.

"Oi, oi, your boss put a lot of work into this ya know," Sixiang teased, snatching it out of the air.

"I was going to catch it on the wind and deflect it to land on the roof still," Ling Qi groused, glaring at them out of the corner of her eye.

"Were you really…?" They drawled, propping themselves up on one elbow, Sixiang pulled the scroll in toward their face and squinted, almost going crosseyed. "...Dang, boss lady has some dense handwriting."

"Only when she's writing for herself or to me," Ling Qi grumbled, stretching her arms overhead. Up here on the roof of the manor, the breeze was cool and crisp, much more comfortable than the humid warmth which accumulated on the streets where so many bodies passed. It was strange even on the second trip, to look up and see only a vast dome of green rather than a starry sky. But even more than that, the strangest thing about Xiangmen was the fact that even at night, it wasn't really dark.

Lights glittered from countless lanterns, torches and floating faerie lights, even without a single spark of sunlight, the Cloud district of Xiangmen glowed at night only a little dimmer than it was during the day.

"With everyone else, she uses much a much fancier hand. 'It's the expected presentation, maximizing efficiency in this case harms the soft factors in communication' she says."

It was worse because she of all people knew Renxiang was right and approved of her liege taking it into account.

Of course, she was Renxiang's friend as well as retainer, so the heiress would be more 'natural' when corresponding with her. Even if it meant a scroll so dense it was nearly black inside encoded with layered information she she could only even read because of her more advanced senses.

She should have never made the mistake of glancing at Renxiang's personal notes and asking after it when she first returned to Shenglu. Now that Renxiang knew she could read it there was no escape!

"Cept that she'd stop if you asked her," Sixiang said dryly.

"I would never be defeated so easily," Ling Qi sniffed.

Besides, even if it made her head buzz and her eyes water after awhile, it was an amusing little thing to share with Renxiang.

She'd get her back later after all, even if her liege was becoming annoyingly resilient to her tricks. However, Ling Qi would not allow herself to be stymied for long!

Besides, the first scroll, the cultivation pill and elixir catalogue for Xiangmen's cloud district had been fascinating. She worried she might have overspent a little… but even without the privileged access of a patron there were many many more options available for her cultivation level.

"I hope I don't have to drag your butt out of the meditation room while we're in the biggest concentration of art and artists in the Emerald Seas," Sixiang warned."If I have to dump a bucket of water over your head I will, and there will be glitter."

She wrinkled her nose in disgust. "I haven't overdone my cultivation enhancer intake since I was first realm Sixiang. Honestly, I'm not that bad. Besides its not as if going out on the town doesn't benefit my cultivation too."

Sixiang gave her an exasperated look, she smiled impishly. She reached out and snatched the scroll back, winding it back up with a simple flick of her wrist. "Anyway! I don't need to read all of this tonight. What say we take a walk?"

"You won't hear me complaining," Sixiang said brightly, reaching out to her. She took the muses hand and pulled them to their feet, before the both of them leapt down from the manor roof to the path outside, earning a few startled looks from their house guards, though thankfully most of these were from Renxiang's permanent detail, so they were used to such things.

"Going out to review nighttime conditions in the city," she said lightly. "Please take any messages for me at my return."

One of the men at the manor gates thumped a fist against his chest, and they were off, strolling down the branch trunkward, where the lights were at their brightest.

"Whatcha got in mind?" Sixiang asked brightly, trotting to keep up with her longer stride. It was still strange to think of Sixiang as having an actual physical presence, but even the pressure on palm wasn;t wholly ethereal anymore, for all that it masked the sensation of porcelaine and wood beneath the visible 'skin'.

"Well that's the fun part. I have no idea. Its been too long since I've let the wind take me, don;t you think?" Ling Qi said cheerfully. She was proud of her work, and happy with her recovery, but… she'd not really had a chance to just wander in awhile.

"Hah! Now that's what I'm talking about," Sixiang said, making a show of shading their eyes and peering into the distance. "Hoh, I wonder where we'll end up…"

Ling Qi hummed to herself. "Hm, I'll choose the first turn, you choose the second, adn we alternate until we find something interesting?"

"Sounds good!"

The first intersection they came too was an unassuming T, two smaller summer manors facing each other across the road and a larger branch estate blocking the way directly forward, lined with hedges of brightly colored bush, there was nothing to really distinguish one choice from the other.

The breeze kicked up, tugging at her hair, blowing… left?

Left it was.

***​

She gone out with Sixiang once before like this, back then she'd thought the nightlife of Xiangmen impossibly vibrant, but returning now, her senses told her so much more. Nevermind the intricate web of security which underlaid it all-Xiangmen was a fortress of unimaginable strength. Veins of power older than the empire powered formations both ancient and cutting edge, of a potency would leave her feel like a gnat dancing among a spiders web if she spent too much time dwelling on it.

There was so much connected to that network, woven through it, binding and separating, doors and walls in infinite number. There bubbles of occlusion like droplets of water on the web reflecting her sight rather receiving it, the homes and manors and ministry buildings, cut off and in their own demesne's but then there were the streets, where cultivators far more potent than she walked or glided and drifted in thronging numbers as if they were merely the upper crust of a mortal town, and not the exalted immortals of story and myth.

Of course, she knew better than to think of cultivators like this.

She drifted along the edge of a crowd in one of the rounded city squares that existed where smaller branches split off from the main length, watching a handful of cyan cultivators drifting by overhead, singing and dancing, raising sloshing cups of some kind of grain alcohol and shouting at each other while third realms thronged below, around a huge alchemical set up which filled the plaza, surrounding a keg as big as a house.

The red faced brewer guffawed loudly over the sound of the chanted off key drinking songs around him and through a lever on a contraption of glass and spinning gears and steam and she felt the potent earth and fire qi infused into the liquid in the giant keg erupt in potency, the loud bubbling from within erupting as hazy amber colored drink began to pour over the top on waves of froth.

And the crowd around surged forward empty cups thrust out to catch the bounty, with what was missed running down into the grates and pipes of the mobile alchemists lab in the center of the square.

"C'moooooon, you know you want to go for it, you can even fly! Get in on the topside instead of the crowd!" Sixiang chuckled, poking her in the side. They were perched up on an awning overlooking the square.

"I don't know, I'm not sure that's really my kind of drink," Ling Qi said, eyeing the stuff from a distance. The simple smell of it made her head feel warm, and her thoughts a bit fuzzy.

"Then at least get me a cup," Sixiang said, turning to her with a pleading look.

"...Can you actually drink things with that body?" Ling Qi wondered.

"Of course I can," Sixiang sniffed. "What kinda hack do you think our girl Suyin is? Solid stuffs harder but I can totally drink like this!"

Ling Qi sighed, rolled her eyes, snatched the notably large ceramic mug they'd acquired somewhere out of Sixiangs hand, and sprung off the awning, spiralling up into the hazy air of the square, above the stamping feet and singing voices. It felt really strange… honestly, she thought she might actually be more intoxicated by radiating joy, contentment and released stress billowing thick in the air here as all the masks of etiquette came down.

She move past a spinning couple, a pair of men locked arm in arm, the polished metal of their souls sheathed and wrapped in the comfort of comradery, for just a little while they were more men than blades again. She skimmed the top of the frothing barrel drawing shouts of mock rage from the two of them as the white froth at the top of the barrel parted under the wind at her tail scattering over the crowd while she filled Sixiang's mug.

She flew a wide lazy circle back, shaking her head to relieve the burning sensation in her eyes, and alighted back on their awning, beside Sixiang, who awaited her standing, bouncing on the balls of their feet.

"Oh, gimme gimme! I've always wanted to try some good material world drink," Sixiang cackled, taking the cup from her hands excitedly. They inhaled deeply and the colors in their hair flickered wildly, strobing across the spectrum hypnotically. "Oof, thats got some body!"

"I'll take your word for it," Ling Qi chuckled.

They grinned. "Bottoms up!"
She watched her friend toss back the drink, a trickle spilling over the chin. She really did have to admire how realistic the illusion of their throat moving with each swallow was. A moment after that thought flitted through her head, Sixiang stiffened and shuddered, their entire visible self frizzing and losing definition for a moment, details wobbling and turning incoherent in a cloud of multicolored light around their constructed frame.

"W-whoah, forget body, I feel like I just got clocked in the jaw by gramps," Sixiang said, wobbling on their feet, she caught them under the arm while their illusion resserted itself, though she noted it was still a little fuzzy at the edges.

"You might note most of the third realms are sipping," Ling Qi said dryly.

"Feh, that's loser talk, and Sixiang ain't no loser, just ah… Huh, gimme a second to process that," They huffed, squeezing their eyes shut, and the definition of their clothes firmed back up, taking back the texture of cloth rather than just smeared color.

…Honestly, she was a little tempted to take just a sip.

There was something really inviting to this wildness. In the wild festivities whee the veil of what was acceptable and not had been lifted so far… How much of Xiangmen that was never revealed spilled freely into the streets today…

Moons she was curious, she wanted to see…

[ ] The motion, the forward rush, the old foundations grinding down to sand.

[ ] The want, the revealed desire, the yearning darkness of the city of glittering light
 
Aaaa I'm loving this arc!! It's fascinating to see some part of what the City of Art probably looked like under the Party Animals Horned Sages of the Weilu

[ ] The motion, the forward rush, the old foundations grinding down to sand.
This feels like it vibes better with the situation, given Shenhua's own tendencies toward [PROGRESS] and [REVOLUTION] and the eve of the first big gay wedding in the history of the Empire, and the first time Ling Qi could really let loose for a bit since... Pre-Summit?

EDIT: Two hour moratorium, folks!
 
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yeah, kind of leaning motion maybe. I just like the connections and philosophical points there.

Also motion is currently only level IV needing 4 points, while want is V and need 12 points so who knows if we'll even level it again.
 
She watched her friend toss back the drink, a trickle spilling over the chin. She really did have to admire how realistic the illusion of their throat moving with each swallow was. A moment after that thought flitted through her head, Sixiang stiffened and shuddered, their entire visible self frizzing and losing definition for a moment, details wobbling and turning incoherent in a cloud of multicolored light around their constructed frame.

So can I assume Sixiang heard that thought and got flustered at the attention? The admiration of their displayed physique?
 
In Emerald groves, the Wind Thief leaps,
Where spirits revel and Tsu the Diviner sleeps.
Hearths glow like fireflies bright,
As the Tree's tenants dance through leaf and light.
The little gods raise cups of wine,
Beneath the moons, their joy divine.
In whispered tales, old legends soar-
The party echoes evermore.
 
Sixiang date! Honestly wasn't expecting it but it's tons of fun so far! They've been pretty absent in the story recently so it's nice to see something like this. Also we get a good look at the increasingly elusive silly Qi all chapter which is awesome! Need more stuff like this!
 
Yesss, the Sixiang date. Wonderful.

They really are good for her in the same way she's good for CRX.
 
[X] The want, the revealed desire, the yearning darkness of the city of glittering light

After all, Ling Qi has always been a greedy girl.

Also because it has something to do with darkness.
 
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[ ] The want, the revealed desire, the yearning darkness of the city of glittering light

With the marriage bowl in full swing, I think it might be valuable for LQ to contemplate the nature of desire.
 
Fun times with Sixiang! You are spoiling us!

[ ] The want, the revealed desire, the yearning darkness of the city of glittering light
 
Besides, even if it made her head buzz and her eyes water after awhile, it was an amusing little thing to share with Renxiang.
All the little moments like this with Renxiang are just so!! Nice! These two who were so intensely guarded have in-jokes and banter, it's nice to see mischievous Ling Qi again.

She watched her friend toss back the drink, a trickle spilling over the chin. She really did have to admire how realistic the illusion of their throat moving with each swallow was. A moment after that thought flitted through her head, Sixiang stiffened and shuddered, their entire visible self frizzing and losing definition for a moment, details wobbling and turning incoherent in a cloud of multicolored light around their constructed frame.
Wow Ling Qi noticed Sixiang and Sixiang definitely heard it. Or can they not hear Ling Qi's thoughts when they're in the puppet body? I forget.

I feel like this scene dovetails with Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry and Motion.
Motion IV (4/8): Motion is life and joy, unobstructed by the chains of destiny. Wings beating in tandem may soar through the most terrible storm.
This is a night of revelry, where people, including Ling Qi and what sounds like a pair of White Plumes, are letting go and enjoying themselves. And this feels like an arc where Ling Qi is going to strive to move forward again after having to stop to let herself heal.

[X] The motion, the forward rush, the old foundations grinding down to sand.
 
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[X] The want, the revealed desire, the yearning darkness of the city of glittering light

This sounds as a better fit for the atmosphere of the wedding.
Less about Revolution and crushing the old and more about being true to yourself and your desires.
 
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