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Time to be a filthy traitor.

[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)

Because I am worried of getting too much filthy mother moon-ness into us.
 
Arkeus said:
Time to be a filthy traitor.

[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)

Because I am worried of getting too much filthy mother moon-ness into us.
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Dude we can vote for Dreaming Moon regardless, all this would mean is that Mother Moon might be one of the available options for the capstone Moon quest
 
Orkus Majorkus said:
Spending time with family will mean losing Ice Archery??? *vote changes to status quo*
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You joke, but I sincerely wish people thought like that. Trying to slot things into our schedule inherently means less room for other things. I would rather have extra social time for Ling QI then slotting extra peripherals like Ice Archery (or, for that matter, Stealth), so I'm voting for the family time option. If you would rather have a peripheral skill, you should either be voting for Status Quo or thinking long and hard about what other ability you plan to cut to make room.
 
You know, when right after making this decision Mother Moon shows up, gives Ling Qi a wordless thumbs up and then explodes like a drugs pinata before the stunned eyes of Qi and Qingge a lot of wrong-voters are gonna feel pretty dumb. /s
 
FallenPears said:
You know, when right after making this decision Mother Moon shows up, gives Ling Qi a wordless thumbs up and then explodes like a drugs pinata before the stunned eyes of Qi and Qingge a lot of wrong-voters are gonna feel pretty dumb. /s
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That would be ridiculous. We're currently caring for our family more than we ever did before, and we still got Mother Moon as an option last time.

Edit: Didn't see the /s but my point still stands in case anyone takes your post seriously.

1986ctcel said:
To hell with "optimal", we should pick the Moon quest that we like not because it's "more optimal"
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I don't mean optimal in terms of just power. Mother Moon would make more sense from a character perspective as well if we picked family now. I wish we had picked Dreaming Moon last time (it was the best time to do it character-wise) but I still want to pick it up now if we can.
Adhoc vote count started by Huo Yuhao on Apr 3, 2019 at 2:12 PM, finished with 404 posts and 173 votes.
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It is a very bad idea to make long-term decisions (e.g. Domain Insights, Spirit Patron, etc.) based on short-term concerns like immediate cultivation efficiency.

If we think that Mother Moon is "optimal" in that it earnestly defines who we want to be, that is fine; if we think it is "optimal" because it gives better cultivation bonuses, we should be looking for other reasons.
 
Based upon the expectations of Shenhua not expecting the impossible yet I'm not seeing how crunch time will improve after the Sect so if not now when?

[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)

Also Dreaming Moon is what I'll be voting for regardless of the option that wins here as it is simply more thematically appropriate for Ling Qi imo.
 
Huo Yuhao said:
I don't mean optimal in terms of just power. Mother Moon would make more sense from a character perspective as well if we picked family now. I wish we had picked Dreaming Moon last time (it was the best time to do it character-wise) but I still want to do pick it up now if we don't choose family.
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We picked New Moon for Xin and it was really sweet. That means there's precedent in picking Dreaming Moon for Sixiang which is also more justified since we're actually bound to the spirit and how much closer we're growing.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Xepheria on Apr 3, 2019 at 2:12 PM, finished with 404 posts and 173 votes.
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Almost 200 votes and a six vote spread. This is going to lead to salt mines galore.

Please for the love of God don't let there be any sock-puppets sneaking into this.
 
I'm hoping that isn't necessary plz guys. That said Zhengui's new stats are up on the front page.

Exact wording of techniques may change a bit if they're too unclear for people.
 
yrsillar said:
Cultivation
Late Yellow(6)
Late Silver(6)

Attributes

Physical
Strength: D
Dexterity: F
Stamina: B

Mental
Intelligence: E
Wits: D
Resolve: C

Social
Presence: E
Manipulation: F
Composure: D

Base Health: C15 (Stamina B, Qi C)
Damage Reductions: G vs. Fire

Base Qi: C10

Base Speed: E (Strength D, Dexterity F)

Base Initiative: E (Dexterity F, Wits D)

Derived Attributes

Physical Defense
Avoid: F (Dexterity F, Dodge F)
Armor: B35 (Stamina B, Rejuvenation B)Unqualified Bonuses: Base 20, BfA 15
Qualified Bonus: +3 w/ wood or fire arts active

Spiritual Defense
Avoid: E (Wits D, Fade F)
Qualified Bonuses: +5 vs. Single target
Armor: B5 (Resolve C, Resilience C) Unqualified Bonuses: Base 20, BfA 15
Qualified Bonuses: +3 w/ wood or Fire arts active

Physical Offense
Hit C (Strength D, Natural Weapon C) Unqualified Bonuses: BB 10
Qualified Bonuses: +3 w/ wood or fire art active
Penetration D15 (Strength D, Natural Weapon C)Unqualified Bonuses: Base 5
Qualified Bonuses: +5 on Fire

Spiritual Offense
Hit: D10 (Wits D, Power D)Unqualified Bonuses: BB 10
Penetration: E10 (Intelligence E, Power D)

Perception
Combat Perception: E (Wits D, Perceptiveness F)
Qualified Bonuses: +6 in heavily wooded regions
Social Perception: D10 (Wits D, Empathy E)

Technique
Dispel: - (Intelligence E+Tech Rank)
Resist: - (Resolve C+Tech Rank)

Skills
Athletics: C
Perceptiveness: E
Stealth: D
Survival: C
Empathy: E
Speech: D
Natural Weapons: C
Projection: D
Dodge: F
Fortitude: C(Max)
-Rejuvenation: B
Fade: F
Resilience: C

Weapons:
Gui Chomp: Damage E.
Zhen Bite: Damage D.

Abilities:

Blooming From Ash

Passives:
+15 to Physical and Spiritual Armor
+6 to perception and survival rolls in plant life heavy regions
+5 Stamina and Resolve challenges
Adds 2 to Available Qi per action when not moving

Ingraining Roots: D
Zhengui channels his qi through the roots of the plant life around him, allowing him to better sense his surroundings as well as drawing in further strength. While active, Zhengui's speed is reduced by one rank, but damage to his armor recovers at a rapid rate. Lasts a short time.

Eternal Vitality: C
Instant
Zhengui's draws on the concept of regrowth and renewal to seal his wounds and break the power of enemies over him. The regenerating qi knits his wounds and repairs his shell. Alternatively, he may use this to dispel a negative effect on himself or Ling Qi.

Stone in the Soil: E
A technique granted by Zhengui's bond with Ling Qi. Allows Zhengui to rapidly bury himself in loose soil, temporarily appearing as little more than a large spiky boulder. Lasts until Zhengui is revealed

Woodland Grasp: C
A technique allowing Zhengui to create and manipulate roots beneath the ground to trap his enemies. The roots immobilize their target with a strength equal to Zhengui's own.

Spearing Roots: C
Damage: E
Building upon previous techniques, Zhengui hardens and sharpens the roots he manipulates with potent wood qi, using them to assault instead of entrap. The spearing roots strike to impale rather than entangle, but grip and slow the enemies limbs nonetheless if they strike true.

Blazing Blood

Passives
G Damage reduction vs. Fire
+10 to Hit on physical attacks
+5 to Penetration of Fire Attacks
Use Strength for Hit

Blood Boiling Venom: E
Instant
Damage: E(Bonus, poison)
Zhengui strikes with venomous fangs injecting a terrible, deadly heat into the target. With the boiling venom flowing in their veins, the victim finds themselves weakened and slowed until the effect burns out.

Volcanic Stone Shell: C
Response
Zhengui infuses his shell with withering heat and stony resilience, burning bright with a volcanic blaze. Any who strike at Zhengui in melee suffer painful burns for their effort. This effect lasts a short time.

Ashfall: C
Zhengui expels ash from both of his mouths, filling the sky with falling gray dust. The ash cloud extends out to Very Close range around him and persists for a Short time in that space. While Zhengui and Ling Qi are immune to the effects, others within the ash suffer unavoidable burns while within the ash. The particulates make it difficult for them to see as well, hanging thickly in the air. Zhengui may use this art multiple times to expand its area. Four stacks may be active at a time.

Boiling Shot: E
Damage: D(poison)
Zhen gathers his venom and spits, launching a ball of corrosive superheated venom at a target within Close range.

Boiling Spray: C
Damage: E(poison)
Zhen gathers his venom, as he does with Boiling Shot, but instead discharges a spray of molten venom in a burning fan damaging up to three targets within Near range.


Verdant Ash Duality
+5 to Spiritual Avoid vs single target attacks
+2 on Hit and Penetration when techniques from Blazing Blood and Blooming from Ashes are used in the same turn.
User counts as two separate combatants for determining multiattacker bonuses

Minds Apart: C
A Xuan Wu is two minds in one body and self, it takes age and long practice to function fully as two separate beings however. With this technique however, a young Xuan Wu may temporarily attain this ability.

Ashfield Flowering: C
Usable only while at least one instance of Ashfall is active, this technique consumes the ashfield to revitalize allies. On activation one instance of Ashfall is dispelled automatically, allied targets within the ashfall zone find their lesser wounds healing and their armor fortified.

Rebirth Inferno: Special
Special
Damage: A
When reduced to F rank health. Zhengui may instantly discharge all of his remaining qi into a roaring inferno that consumes all save Ling Qi within Near range. This massive explosion tears through defenses and moves with incredible speed In the aftermath Zhengui falls unconscious, and cannot act, but receives a temporary Health Attribute of B Rank.
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yrsillar said:
Cultivation
Early Green(7)
Early Bronze(7)

Attributes

Physical
Strength: C
Dexterity: F
Stamina: A

Mental
Intelligence: E
Wits: D
Resolve: B

Social
Presence: E
Manipulation: F
Composure: C

Base Health: B20 (Stamina A, Qi B)
Damage Reductions: F vs. Fire

Base Qi: B

Base Speed: E ( Dexterity F, Athletics C) Unqualified BFA -10

Base Initiative: E (Dexterity F, Wits D)

Derived Attributes

Physical Defense
Avoid: F (Dexterity F, Dodge F)
Armor: A25 (Stamina A, Rejuvenation B)Unqualified Bonuses: Base 20, BfA 25
Qualified Bonus: +3 w/ wood or fire arts active

Spiritual Defense
Avoid: E (Wits D, Fade F)
Qualified Bonuses: +5 vs. Single target
Armor: A (Resolve B, Resilience C) Unqualified Bonuses: Base 20, BfA 25
Qualified Bonuses: +3 w/ wood or Fire arts active

Physical Offense
Hit B (Strength C, Bite B) Unqualified Bonuses: BB 15
Qualified Bonuses: +3 w/ wood or fire art active
Penetration C15 (Strength C, Bite B)Unqualified Bonuses:
Qualified Bonuses: +15 on Fire

Spiritual Offense
Hit: C15 (Wits D, Projection C)Unqualified Bonuses: BB 15
Penetration: D (Intelligence E, Projection C) Unqualified Bonuses: BB 15

Perception
Combat Perception: D (Wits D, Perceptiveness D)
Qualified Bonuses: +10 in heavily wooded regions
Social Perception: D10 (Wits D, Empathy E)

Technique
Dispel: - (Intelligence E+Tech Rank)
Resist: - (Resolve B+Tech Rank)

Skills
Athletics: C
Perceptiveness: D
Stealth: D
Survival: C
Empathy: E
Speech: D
Natural Weapons: C
-Bite: B
Projection: C
Dodge: F
Fortitude: C(Max)
-Rejuvenation: B
Fade: F
Resilience: C

Weapons:
Gui Chomp: Damage D.
Zhen Bite: Damage C.

Abilities:

Blooming From Ash

Passives:
+25 to Physical and Spiritual Armor
+10 to perception and survival rolls in plant life heavy regions
+15 Stamina and Resolve challenges
G rank qi regeneration while not moving
-10 to Speed

Eternal Roots: C
The endless vitality of the forest fills Zhengui, spreading his senses throughout his surroundings, as well as sealing wounds, restoring qi and repairing broken and chipped shell and scales. While active, Zhengui's speed is reduced by one rank, but damage to his armor recovers at a rapid rate. Lasts a long time. Once during this duration Zhengui may attempt to dispel a negative effect from himself or an ally.

Innocuous Hill: D
A technique granted by Zhengui's bond with Ling Qi. Zhengui sinks into the earth and draws in soil and stone to cover his shell. Used out of combat or against unready targets, this effect boosts Zhengui's stealth by a full rank, and gives a significant bonus to hit on his first attack against unready targets. This technique is ineffective on targets who are not Unready.

Woodland Grasp: C
A technique allowing Zhengui to create and manipulate roots beneath the ground to trap his enemies. This technique affects all targets within close range of Zhengui. The roots immobilize their target with strength equal to Zhengui's own..

Spearing Roots: C
Damage: E
Building upon Woodland Grasp, Zhengui hardens and sharpens the roots he manipulates with potent wood qi, using them to assault instead of entrap. The spearing roots strike to impale rather than entangle, but grip and slow the enemies limbs nonetheless if they strike true.

Roiling Forest Regrowth: B
A technique arising from Zhengui's frustration at foes avoiding him to strike at Ling Qi. Zhengui throws a huge quantity of Qi into the earth beneath his feet, until grasping twining roots are erupting from every inch of earth within Close Range. These roots twine together to form walls, grab at limbs and otherwise make themselves impossible to ignore. Enemies striking at targets other than Zhengui have their speed, combat perception, Physical Hit and Penetration penalized. Effects with multiple targets are not penalized if they include at least half of the affected area in their range. While these roots can be destroyed so long as the technique is active they regrow too quickly for this to be effective. This technique lasts a short time.

Blazing Blood

Passives
F Damage reduction vs. Fire
+15 to Hit on Physical and Fire Attacks
+15 to Penetration of Fire Attacks
Use Strength for Hit

Blood Boiling Venom: D
Instant
Damage: D(Bonus, poison)
Zhengui strikes with venomous fangs injecting a terrible, deadly heat into the target. With the boiling venom flowing in their veins, the victim finds themselves weakened and slowed until the effect burns out.

Volcanic Stone Shell: C
Response
Zhengui infuses his shell with withering heat and stony resilience, burning bright with a volcanic blaze. Anywho strike at Zhengui in melee suffer painful burns for their effort. This effect lasts a long time.

Ashfall: C
Zhengui expels ash from both of his mouths, filling the sky with falling gray dust. The ash cloud extends out to Very Close range around him and persists for a Long time in that space. While Zhengui, Ling Qi and her other spirits are immune to the effects, others within the ash suffer unavoidable burns while within the ash. The particulates make it difficult for them to see as well, hanging thickly in the air. Zhengui may use this art multiple times to expand its area. Six stacks may be active at a time.

Boiling Shot: D
Damage: C(poison)
Zhen gathers his venom and spits, launching a ball of corrosive superheated venom at a target within Close range.

Boiling Spray: C
Damage: D(poison)
Zhen gathers his venom, as he does with Boiling Shot, but instead discharges a spray of molten venom in a burning fan damaging up to three targets within Near range.


Verdant Ash Duality
+15 to Spiritual Avoid vs single target attacks
+5 on Hit and Penetration when techniques from Blazing Blood and Blooming from Ashes are used in the same turn.
User counts as two separate combatants for determining multiattacker bonuses

Minds Apart: C
A Xuan Wu is two minds in one body and self, it takes age and long practice to function fully as two separate beings however. With this technique however, a young Xuan Wu may temporarily attain this ability.

Ashfield Flowering: C
Usable only while at least one instance of Ashfall is active, this technique consumes the ashfield to revitalize allies. On activation one instance of Ashfall is dispelled automatically, allied targets within the ashfall zone find their lesser wounds healing and their armor fortified.

Vengeful Serpent's Fangs: D
When an enemy strikes at one of Zhengui's allies within Near range, they open themselves to a counterstrike. Zhengui receives a large bonus to hit for this attack, and deals damage via his Zhen Bite attack, with an additional E rank poison which repeats for a short time thereafter.

Rebirth Inferno: Special
Special
Damage: A
When reduced to F rank health. Zhengui may instantly discharge all of his remaining qi into a roaring inferno that consumes all save Ling Qi within Very Close range. This massive explosion tears through defenses and moves with incredible speed. In the aftermath Zhengui falls unconscious, and cannot act, but receives a temporary Health Attribute of B Rank.
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For comparison purposes
 
Roiling Forest Regrowth and Vengeful Serpent's Fangs will be very useful. Ashfall also doesn't affect Hanyi but Volcanic Stone Shell and Rebirth Inferno seem to.
 
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We now suck enough at stealth that Zhengui, using Innocuous Hill, is as sneaky as we are before our own techniques and Appraisal reduction. Of course, we're waiting on a stealth insight to break in to B, but that just highlights that a magic tortoise-hill compares on the same tier as a Ling Qi right now.
 
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