Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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To be honest so long as we avoid waifu war for as long as possible -ideally forever because I am so fucking tired of those- Cai, Qingge, Xuan and such are all fine. Just don't forget our existing ones in detriment. Meizhen and Xiulan show too little as it is and did Su Ling even get more than a mention in this thread so far?
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- Location
- At the end of the world
Well, it's a life. We can't have all at the same time. And about Su Ling? I think we will find out about her well being next turn from snake maid.
DeusExBritannia
Red-White-Black-White
- Location
- Texas
I'd actually prefer marrying Sixiang; spirits are more interesting than humans.
Staff Notice: Be careful with this sort of content.
Mother child incest is a tad too kinky for me, but if we were to cross that line, wouldn't zhengui be a better choice as he could be the spirit ancestor of our clan ?
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
Do you want to be like Elder Jiao and have to tell the future clan that "you stained an innocent fairy with your essence, and wrought them into your ideal spouse"?
(jk.jk I just had to bring a throw back from one of my favorite scenes.)
- Location
- At the end of the world
Something about Levels of Cultivation and Sect Ranks bothered me, so i wanted to see where peak lies Green Level vise. We know that Liao Zhu is 3 Rank, last year week 41 he was 6 Rank. Pretty much peak for me, so i went ahead and find this:
But looking from another angle - serious bottlenecks means that we don't have to worry about challenging Disciples higher than us Level vise for a loong time, so there is silver lining.
So 7 level/stage, that actually seems not too far ahead. We know that level 3 Cultivators can be found at 770-x already. So what is the big deal? Why Liao Zhu, obviously talented Cultivator isn't in Cyan? Why gap between 770 and 6(3) is just 4 Levels? I can only assume, but it's likely that what waiting us after Foundation is bottlenecks and serious ones... It's a little depressing to be honest.
But looking from another angle - serious bottlenecks means that we don't have to worry about challenging Disciples higher than us Level vise for a loong time, so there is silver lining.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
I find it likely that Liao Zhu has a higher rank than his cultivation level would ordinarily suggest because of his extraordinary dedication to the Sect military, but even then it can't be by that much.Something about Levels of Cultivation and Sect Ranks bothered me, so i wanted to see where peak lies Green Level vise. We know that Liao Zhu is 3 Rank, last year week 41 he was 6 Rank. Pretty much peak for me, so i went ahead and find this:
So 7 level/stage, that actually seems not too far ahead. We know that level 3 Cultivators can be found at 770-x already. So what is the big deal? Why Liao Zhu, obviously talented Cultivator isn't in Cyan? Why gap between 770 and 6(3) is just 4 Levels? I can only assume, but it's likely that what waiting us after Foundation is bottlenecks and serious ones... It's a little depressing to be honest.
But looking from another angle - serious bottlenecks means that we don't have to worry about challenging Disciples higher than us Level vise for a loong time, so there is silver lining.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
I suspect that Liao Zhu is a product of superior Stat, Skills, Spirit beasts, Arts and Gear.
While in yellow or something art quality matters but there is only so much you can eke out of efficiency, so the difference between what you can get when you are a noble and high noble exists but isn't completely key, it appears in green, and probably especially late green, that difference gets bigger.
A lot of the high nobles peeps aren't going to be trying for sect for life, or at least the main branch high nobles. So, I think a majority of the 500-400 ranks are from branches of High Noble clans that really need the sect ressources to patch up their family ones. Liao Zhu however has at least 3 moon-given core arts, which should be giving him a very significant advantage at that point. Especially if those enabled him getting more ressources from other sources (E.G, how we got TRF through helping the sect).
Something about Levels of Cultivation and Sect Ranks bothered me, so i wanted to see where peak lies Green Level vise. We know that Liao Zhu is 3 Rank, last year week 41 he was 6 Rank. Pretty much peak for me, so i went ahead and find this:
So 7 level/stage, that actually seems not too far ahead. We know that level 3 Cultivators can be found at 770-x already. So what is the big deal? Why Liao Zhu, obviously talented Cultivator isn't in Cyan? Why gap between 770 and 6(3) is just 4 Levels? I can only assume, but it's likely that what waiting us after Foundation is bottlenecks and serious ones... It's a little depressing to be honest.
But looking from another angle - serious bottlenecks means that we don't have to worry about challenging Disciples higher than us Level vise for a loong time, so there is silver lining.
By my most pessimistic estimates, the amount of successes required for base Cultivation roughly doubles each 'level' in Green, while the number of dice slowly tapers off even if you max GSS every turn - which is not cheap.
Even if it 'only' increases by ~1200 successes each level, dice only increases by ~70 per level, for 9600 successes required for Peak Green 8 and ~600 dice from GSS per AP at Green 8/Bronze 8 ('level' 14/14)(level / 2 + 1 = total # of dice per week, 8 GSS = 40 + 7 * 80 = 40 + 560 = 600), for 32 GSS/month, which is 16,000 RSS/month... for 2,400 dice.
And with our Talent, barring other sources of dice, that's eight months of Cultivation at 4 AP/month for one of Spiritual or Physical.
Most Cultivators can't afford anywhere near that sort of expenditure, most don't have our Talent, and many have other duties eating into their time, so they go much, much slower.
It taking great amounts of time for most Cultivators to advance makes a lot of sense.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Not to forget that the Domain increase/ Domain slot requirements means that you can't just marathon base cultivation, either. Art cultivation needs to be kept up to date. Someone needs to live their life, do their duties to the sect/family, and then on top of that add extremely expensive cultivation.
The honeymoon of "I am in college and can do full time cultivation" tapers off quickly once the ressources needed for keeping up increases and your own family decide that that the relative cost of you going a bit faster rather than 5 of your cousins catching up to your level means the family wants your cousin to catch up more.
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
- Location
- The Void
Man, the more I hear about moon abs Liao Zhu, the more impressive he gets. Make me want to invest in him (Relationship Rank) if given a chance. Don't know how much though. Maybe until he's willing to give us moon arts.,
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Having someone like him as a contact in the Sect sounds pretty handy in the future, for when we're out fighting off Cloud Nomads.
- Location
- The United States
- Pronouns
- He/They
So I was reading through months old FoD posts this morning to try to find a single statement I thought I remembered in order to make a pedantic point to someone else, like you do, and I found this line I missed the first time through.
I guess SnekMom liked to bite.
Christ. The fuck is a Bai wedding like.
"I now pronounce you Snek and Stud? Congratulations Ma'am, you may now eat half the Stud's face.
"Wait, wha...OH GOD"
I believe that one of the assumptions of this thread is that we can trust Yrs that that won't happen.
Even if we go months without Xiulan being in a vote, we can still assume there are occasional mean girl/spa sessions.
I guess SnekMom liked to bite.
Christ. The fuck is a Bai wedding like.
"I now pronounce you Snek and Stud? Congratulations Ma'am, you may now eat half the Stud's face.
"Wait, wha...OH GOD"
I believe that one of the assumptions of this thread is that we can trust Yrs that that won't happen.
Even if we go months without Xiulan being in a vote, we can still assume there are occasional mean girl/spa sessions.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
We might not be keeping touch with Su Ling that much though, given that she's still in the Outer Sect.
- Location
- France
- Location
- earth
Mmm, you can smell the historical revisionism.
"Suffice to say that under the prince's superlative leadership, and the core of strength arising from the Sect's the barbarians were defeated."
"However, those of the first dynasty lacked the superlative wisdom of Emperor An in organizing such matters, and as such the practice fell out of favor due to several unfortunate insurrections brought on by poor management."
Very unfortunate insurrections. I'm sure there weren't any valid grievances there at all. And I'm sure the prince was a genius leader too.
I wonder if Cai Shenhua went off with the prince. That'd def. Help her stature either the other clans, imperial favor.
Also makes slightly more sense why so many high nobles gravitated toward Argent Peak sect - the three were the first sects to be elevated, and of those three, it was Yuan He who killed Ogodei and got the most fame probably.
@yrsillar should be three provinces without great sect no? Rr only says ebon rivers and golden fields, but I thought Western territories didn't have either.
Also makes slightly more sense why so many high nobles gravitated toward Argent Peak sect - the three were the first sects to be elevated, and of those three, it was Yuan He who killed Ogodei and got the most fame probably.
@yrsillar should be three provinces without great sect no? Rr only says ebon rivers and golden fields, but I thought Western territories didn't have either.
WolfKit
Pay no attention to the fox behind the keyboard.
- Location
- [█████]
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Sun Shao may not have conquered the Western territories yet when the treatise was written.
This, the western territories weren't a thing yet
- Location
- France
I don't think Cai Shenshua was even born yet. She's still "only" 250 years old (which is super young for a White cultivator) and Ogodei was killed something like 800 years ago? Not sure on the exact date.
Turn 3: Arc 3-2
"We begin now the challenge between between Disciple Eight Hundred and Twelve, Ling Qi, and Disciple Seven Hundred Ninety, Liang He," the presiding Elders was a short, rotund man with a wide friendly face and a faint golden sheen to his skin, and drowsy half lidded eyes. He spoke in a cheerful drawl.
"In accordance with Sect rules, Disciple Liang He has chosen a challenge of direct combat. Let both competitors be at ease that this humble Elder shall not allow either of you to come to permanent harm," the Elder continued baring his teeth in a smile that stretched just a touch too wide. "This one hopes to see both of your youthful spirits released to their fullest extent."
Ling Qi offered a respectful bow to the Elder, just as her opponent did across the field from her. Liang He was a young man seemingly cut from the same mold as Kang Zihao. Well, that was unfair, Ling Qi supposed as she straightened back up and met her opponents steady gaze. She would compare him to Han Jian instead. He was tall and handsome with aquiline features and a serious baring. He had short cropped dark hair, and grey eyes, though they were hardly visible at the moment.
Aside from his flowing silver robes, he wore a featureless jade mask with dark smoked lenses that prevented her from seeing his eyes, and a loose hood attached to the rest of his robes that concealed the rest of his head. He certainly hadn't been wearing that yesterday when she had met him and made her challenge, nor had she heard anything about him wearing such a thing in past. It was a talisman, that much was certain, but she couldn't be sure of its function without a closer examination.
Despite the unwelcome surprise, Ling Qi could not help but feel a thrill of excitement. She was glad that she had made this choice. The urge to test how much she had grown in battle was strong. It would be nice, she thought to engage in a match where there was no previous enmity or resentment coloring things. Again, she thought back to the previous day, when she had met the boy to make her challenge.
Ling Qi straightened up, having politely delivered her challenge to the young man as he exited the sealed training field she had tracked him too. Letting out a breath she prepared herself for his response. When she met his grey eyes however, she did not find what she expected there.
He smiled earnestly as he bowed in return, clasping his hands in front of his chest. "It would be my honor to test my blade against you Lady Ling. I am certain you have only grown stronger since your display of prowess in the tournament. I only hope that this humble swordsman does not disappoint."
Ling Qi tried to ignore the way her cheeks heated at the praise…
Stop embellishing Sixiang, Ling Qi thought sternly, keeping her expression even as she scolded the muse.
"Oh c'mon, he's cute, and shaped just the way you like too," Sixiang complained.
How do you even know that, he was wearing those billowy robes yesterday too, Ling Qi thought in exasperation.
Sixiang scoffed silently. "Like that'll stop me. The wind gets everywhere you know?"
Through a great effort of will Ling Qi prevented her eyebrow from twitching. She almost felt her cheeks catch on fire as the Elder shot her a knowing look out of the corner of his eye. Thankfully her opponent was oblivious to her inner turmoil, merely sliding into a strong advancing stance as he drew the long straight sword from his storage ring in a flash of light. There was yet no sign of his spirit beast.
"The rules of this duel shall be simple," The Elder announced, no longer paying Ling Qi any mind. "As requested by the Challenged, there shall be no restriction on weapons, techniques or spirit beasts. However, the duel shall be limited to this field, and the space fifty meters above and below. This Elder shall enforce the boundary fairly, in a manner that shall prevent disruption of the duel. Are both duelists prepared?"
Ling Qi glanced around the wide grassy field, and the stone boundary markers which marked its edge. The Space was one hundred fifty meters long and one hundred wide. Plenty of space to work with, even if she couldn't just soar up out of range with her gown, but she had expected that. Their starting positions were eighty meters apart, giving them plenty of room to fall back if they desired. It was as fair a field as one could hope for.
..Which wasn't great for her, but she had gone into this expecting a fair duel. With a flick of her wrist, Ling Qi drew her flute from storage. "I am ready Honored Elder," echoing her opponent from across the field.
She put Sixiang's teasing out of wind, and recognizing that the time for it was over, the muse desisted. This would be her first duel with her completed arts and new arts alike, with old techniques set aside. She needed to test her abilities and see how far she could now go. Many challenges lay in the coming days, not the least of which was the situation with her mentor, and the need to keep rising rapidly up the ranks. Though failure would not be the end, she had too much to lose to stop striving with all her determination toward victory.
As the Elder raised his hand, in preparation to begin the duel, all that remained was to decide how she would approach the fight.
[] Fight aggressively, using her arts to defeat him proactively with her more direct arts.
-[] Tactics?(Write in)
[] Fight defensively, in her more usual style, relying on her arts wearing him down
-[] Tactics? (Write in)
Two hour moratorium
AN: So this is a shorty, and I'm prob gonna only leave the vote open till around this time tomorrow to keep the update pace up. Next one will be a fair bit longer what with the combat and the aftermath 'n all.
"In accordance with Sect rules, Disciple Liang He has chosen a challenge of direct combat. Let both competitors be at ease that this humble Elder shall not allow either of you to come to permanent harm," the Elder continued baring his teeth in a smile that stretched just a touch too wide. "This one hopes to see both of your youthful spirits released to their fullest extent."
Ling Qi offered a respectful bow to the Elder, just as her opponent did across the field from her. Liang He was a young man seemingly cut from the same mold as Kang Zihao. Well, that was unfair, Ling Qi supposed as she straightened back up and met her opponents steady gaze. She would compare him to Han Jian instead. He was tall and handsome with aquiline features and a serious baring. He had short cropped dark hair, and grey eyes, though they were hardly visible at the moment.
Aside from his flowing silver robes, he wore a featureless jade mask with dark smoked lenses that prevented her from seeing his eyes, and a loose hood attached to the rest of his robes that concealed the rest of his head. He certainly hadn't been wearing that yesterday when she had met him and made her challenge, nor had she heard anything about him wearing such a thing in past. It was a talisman, that much was certain, but she couldn't be sure of its function without a closer examination.
Despite the unwelcome surprise, Ling Qi could not help but feel a thrill of excitement. She was glad that she had made this choice. The urge to test how much she had grown in battle was strong. It would be nice, she thought to engage in a match where there was no previous enmity or resentment coloring things. Again, she thought back to the previous day, when she had met the boy to make her challenge.
Ling Qi straightened up, having politely delivered her challenge to the young man as he exited the sealed training field she had tracked him too. Letting out a breath she prepared herself for his response. When she met his grey eyes however, she did not find what she expected there.
He smiled earnestly as he bowed in return, clasping his hands in front of his chest. "It would be my honor to test my blade against you Lady Ling. I am certain you have only grown stronger since your display of prowess in the tournament. I only hope that this humble swordsman does not disappoint."
Ling Qi tried to ignore the way her cheeks heated at the praise…
Stop embellishing Sixiang, Ling Qi thought sternly, keeping her expression even as she scolded the muse.
"Oh c'mon, he's cute, and shaped just the way you like too," Sixiang complained.
How do you even know that, he was wearing those billowy robes yesterday too, Ling Qi thought in exasperation.
Sixiang scoffed silently. "Like that'll stop me. The wind gets everywhere you know?"
Through a great effort of will Ling Qi prevented her eyebrow from twitching. She almost felt her cheeks catch on fire as the Elder shot her a knowing look out of the corner of his eye. Thankfully her opponent was oblivious to her inner turmoil, merely sliding into a strong advancing stance as he drew the long straight sword from his storage ring in a flash of light. There was yet no sign of his spirit beast.
"The rules of this duel shall be simple," The Elder announced, no longer paying Ling Qi any mind. "As requested by the Challenged, there shall be no restriction on weapons, techniques or spirit beasts. However, the duel shall be limited to this field, and the space fifty meters above and below. This Elder shall enforce the boundary fairly, in a manner that shall prevent disruption of the duel. Are both duelists prepared?"
Ling Qi glanced around the wide grassy field, and the stone boundary markers which marked its edge. The Space was one hundred fifty meters long and one hundred wide. Plenty of space to work with, even if she couldn't just soar up out of range with her gown, but she had expected that. Their starting positions were eighty meters apart, giving them plenty of room to fall back if they desired. It was as fair a field as one could hope for.
..Which wasn't great for her, but she had gone into this expecting a fair duel. With a flick of her wrist, Ling Qi drew her flute from storage. "I am ready Honored Elder," echoing her opponent from across the field.
She put Sixiang's teasing out of wind, and recognizing that the time for it was over, the muse desisted. This would be her first duel with her completed arts and new arts alike, with old techniques set aside. She needed to test her abilities and see how far she could now go. Many challenges lay in the coming days, not the least of which was the situation with her mentor, and the need to keep rising rapidly up the ranks. Though failure would not be the end, she had too much to lose to stop striving with all her determination toward victory.
As the Elder raised his hand, in preparation to begin the duel, all that remained was to decide how she would approach the fight.
[] Fight aggressively, using her arts to defeat him proactively with her more direct arts.
-[] Tactics?(Write in)
[] Fight defensively, in her more usual style, relying on her arts wearing him down
-[] Tactics? (Write in)
Two hour moratorium
AN: So this is a shorty, and I'm prob gonna only leave the vote open till around this time tomorrow to keep the update pace up. Next one will be a fair bit longer what with the combat and the aftermath 'n all.