Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I think cooperation is the right political move here, but the delay could result in a lot of danger to civilians. Navigating the sewers also plays well with Ling Qi's capabilities and bringing a team with her might slow her down. Plus, acting quickly gives a better chance of catching Yan Renshu.
It's a tough call, tbh.
 
Ling Qi doesn't really hold grudges because she just dismisses the people she has passed as unimportant, i am low key surprised she even remembered him in the first place back in last chapter.
It will be interesting to see if she still can avoid longterm grudges when she figures out that YR is responsible for the death of alot of sect members including Shen Hu
 
I'd like to think finding an enemy sapper cell in their town might be able to shake off the creeping Stagnancy that Ling Qi saw.

I'm all for cooperating and getting help. Ling Qi already started off with not taking over.
 
I think cooperation is the right political move here, but the delay could result in a lot of danger to civilians. Navigating the sewers also plays well with Ling Qi's capabilities and bringing a team with her might slow her down. Plus, acting quickly gives a better chance of catching Yan Renshu.
It's a tough call, tbh.
Jumping in could also result in a lot of danger to civilians. The last few times LQ and YR clashed, they caused a lot of chaos. It worked out because that was within the Sect guarded by the Higher Realms and teachers, and LQ's allies were good friends who were used to her causing chaos and thus had the instinct to bolt into action right away.

The situation does not have those guard rails. Any fallout and there will be fallout given the set up their clash this time, if not contained will likely cause mass deaths.

That's what some people are not getting. The previous 3 times LQ dunked on YR, they were in a kiddie playground. This is a warzone now. The situation is different, the stakes are different and there are no guardrails. LQ outrunning an explosion means an explosion still happened under civilians.
 
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I think cooperation is the right political move here, but the delay could result in a lot of danger to civilians. Navigating the sewers also plays well with Ling Qi's capabilities and bringing a team with her might slow her down. Plus, acting quickly gives a better chance of catching Yan Renshu.
It's a tough call, tbh.
I would be alright navigating the sewers if we had a map, but we don't. Bringing a team will slowly her down individually, but multiple teams could be dispatched covering more ground faster than she could solo. Also Yan Renshu is probably not in the city. No reason to risk being close to the bomb after all.
 
Also, Ministry can warn the Viscount of an impending attack, don't underestimate a bureaucracy with lives and money on the line, doubly so their own.
 
[ ] Descend down into the sewers yourself and seek to put an end to any continuing operations while the city awakens.
Pfft.

It's not like we're standing in front of a boss room and trying to decide whether to get backup before we head in or not, this is asking if we want to see if we can sweep and clear an entire city's worth of bullshit on our own without any intel or support.

If we go in now, we don't cut off the threat before it can bloom, because the threat is distributed all over the place and haphazardly stumbling into bits of it isn't going to get the job done. Going in ourselves just means that the factions with the manpower to actually sweep the city can't tell us where Ling Qi is personally needed, which makes the overall response much less efficient.

Throw in the political considerations, and this seems like a clear Withdraw to me.
 
Also, Ministry can warn the Viscount of an impending attack, don't underestimate a bureaucracy with lives and money on the line, doubly so their own.
tbf, LQ already did that in the update. With sending out the "major cult attack" incoming thing. Apparently it is sending the MoL into a frenzy according to her. Doubt they would not inform the viscounty directly either.
 
tbf, LQ already did that in the update. With sending out the "major cult attack" incoming thing. Apparently it is sending the MoL into a frenzy according to her. Doubt they would not inform the viscounty directly either.

There's a difference between just warning them, and bringing back the details with Yan Shenyi. Those will help inform their response greatly. Oh, and Shenyi said they 'needed guidance' and watering. Without the trigger, that should, at least, buy us some time to get government forces into place.
 
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tbf, LQ already did that in the update. With sending out the "major cult attack" incoming thing. Apparently it is sending the MoL into a frenzy according to her. Doubt they would not inform the viscounty directly either.
We have a prisoner who is a source of intel with us. Do you think LQ has the time and skill to extract all the info from him in time?
 
"You have done well, but with the target in place, your role has come to an end. Your gift will flower and activate the party favors. That girl will be removed from the board, ending the farce in the south, and the wretches of the Emerald Sea destabilized. Hail to the Twilight King, live in death, disciple."
Huh. So that's the excuse Renshu's been using, huh. Makes sense. The Lith tried to work with the WS first.

"No."

Her voice was a cold wind, sending the little candles lighting the room guttering out. It interrupted the frantic man's ranting, made his red face grow white as the temperature in the room plunged. Made frost spread across the slowly pulsing gray crystal.

"…What." said the voice in the crystal.
Renshu: *visible confusion*

"I said, no." Ling Qi said coolly, and her hand plunged into Yan Shenyi's back. She had felt it there, as it pulsed, the little knot of corruption throwing off its veil, so like she had experienced down in those tunnels. A ribcage wasn't exactly a vault, but what good was she if she couldn't improvise.

Ling "Anything Is A Vault If You Heist Enough" Qi

"What?!" the voice from the crystal, Yan Renshu's voice snarled.

Also Renshu: *traumatic flashbacks*

She cocked her head to the side, her eyes narrowing into viscous slits. "Have you ever considered that you're just not very good at security."

Xiulan would be so proud.



[ ] Descend down into the sewers yourself and seek to put an end to any continuing operations while the city awakens.

I think this works best. First of all, we're already in communication with them through Sixiang, so it's not like we're leaving the MoL out. We're clearly involving them. Also, this is a potential cult attack in potentia, as Six said. Stopping it before it can happen, and saving the lives of both civilians and cultivators will be good. We're already acting as a scout like we did at the Caldera, but this time instead of securing the starstone our secondary mission after relaying info is to stop the seeds and attack while the MoL work on a wider, more effective response. Plus People keep saying that we would walk in blindfolded, but I would like to remind them that we're still in contact with the MoL for info and that we can dreamwalk and search for the seeds by searching for rot in the dream. And we're going after stuff that can reach High Green/Cyan+ quickly. It's best to act now

Secondly, this will be a huge loss of face to the Sect. It'll help them recover it if we, a Sect member, stop any attacks that a traitor caused, it'll be really good for them. Plus, this is mostly their war in the first place. We already lost rep with them by going to Shenhua about the White Sky. I want to pick something that'll hopefully bring it back up. Either way, we're cooperating and working with the MoL here. We met with them. We used their plan. We're still in contact and sharing info with them. And I don't think the ruling clan will be angry. We're stopping something that could negatively impact them, so either way, we'd be helping them and they'll be indebted to us and Renxiang. Plus this is in Foundations and we have pretty good rep with the lower nobles (the stuff below Count) here already.

Edit: Plus, we don't know any failsafes they have. Reshu can set the party favours off early, either to complete his plan or to still fuck with LQ. And I highly doubt that the people who heavily believe in community (the Lith)) would trust Renshu, a traitor, fully, especially since this is all revenge. Thye might have more plans in motion than what they told Renshu, and Renshu would obviously not tell his cousin the full deal, so we can hopefully stop them before they begin. Remember, it's not just seeds , that can wait but the Ith themselves are down there (the rat-men)
 
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The Face of the Sect does not fucking matter here. YR ran to the enemy and they failed to stop him. They fucked up and deserve censure period. Our patron, the Ministry and the civilians in this place put in danger by their fuck up matter far more.

Shenhua in fact is the exact kind of woman who'd take this moment to bring the Sect under her control even more.
 
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"My offering," Ling Qi said, cocking her arm back, fixing her eyes on the lunar crescent as she hurled the worm skyward. There was no law of earth here, and so it vanished with only a fading squeal, and a puff of cloud.

QM: So you've got a hold of the worm in the liminal. It's a crux of the enemy's plan, on top of just being really gross. What do you do?

LQ: I yeet that shit into the fucking sun moon
 
I think this works best. First of all, we're already in communication with them through Sixiang, so it's not like we're leaving the MoL out. We're clearly involving them. Also, this is a potential cult attack in potentia, as Six said. Stopping it before it can happen, and saving the lives of both civilians and cultivators will be good. People keep saying that we would walk in blindfolded, but I would like to remind them that we're still in contact with the MoL for info and that we can dreamwalk and search for the seeds by searching for rot in the dream. And we're going after stuff that can reach High Green/Cyan+ quickly. It's best to act now

Secondly, this will be a huge loss of face to the Sect. It'll help them recover it if we, a Sect member, stop any attacks that a traitor caused, it'll be really good for them. Plus, this is mostly their war in the first place. We already lost rep with them by going to Shenhua about the White Sky. I want to pick something that'll hopefully bring it back up. Either way, we're cooperating and working with the MoL here. We met with them. We used their plan. We're still in contact and sharing info with them. And I don't think the ruling clan will be angry. We're stopping something that could negatively impact them, so either way, we'd be helping them and they'll be indebted to us and Renxiang. Plus this is in Foundations and we have pretty good rep with the lower nobles (the stuff below Count) here already.
Hard disagree. This is a terrorist attack and that means you need to sweep the city very very thoroughly. Jumping around the dream looking for rot is going to miss some, likely the newer ones, that haven't had time to seep into the dream yet. We can't do this haphazardly. As for the loss of face to the sect, we are the only ones who know it is Yan Renshu and we don't have to share that with everyone. Who learns that is likely to be very limited. The ruling clan is going to be angry if they are not involved, it is their city after all and it is their duty to protect it. If we don't go to them then we are saying we don't trust them to do that job. That's a pretty big slap in the face.
 
It's not like we're standing in front of a boss room and trying to decide whether to get backup before we head in or not, this is asking if we want to see if we can sweep and clear an entire city's worth of bullshit on our own without any intel or support.
We're in communication with the ministry, intel and an organized response are happening regardless. The whole problem is well beyond our scope, but the best role for Ling Qi might be to go in early to take advantage of her speed and mobility and to avoid delay.
 
The Face of the Sect does not fucking matter here. YR ran to the enemy and they failed to stop him. They fucked up and deserve censure period. Our patron, the Ministry and the civilians in this place put in danger by their fuck up matter far more.

Shenhua in fact is the exact kind of woman who'd take this moment to bring the Sect under her control even more.
You can say the same thing about LQ for not crippling him, or for Shenhua for forcing the Sect to create the conditions that led to the current Renshu.

And if civilians matter more, it's better to work quickly to try and mitigate the damage while corresponding with the MoL through Six
 
We're in communication with the ministry, intel and an organized response are happening regardless. The whole problem is well beyond our scope, but the best role for Ling Qi might be to go in early to take advantage of her speed and mobility and to avoid delay.
The best role for LQ is to actually cooperate with the people who are planning the full response, so that she's a part of those plans instead of a hotshot haphazardly wandering through the sewers in defiance of the organized response.

The second best role for LQ is to deliver the prisoner for interrogation, which is fortunately the same as the first role.

There's no benefit to being inefficient faster.
 
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Rather than worrying about the blame game, just focus on the most thorough way to disarm the threat.

Renshu is gonna be badly harmed by this when we inform the Argent Sect of the existence of a traitor in their midst and his survival.

That's the kind of thing thatll get Elder Jiao to spend an afternoon bullying an unfilial Junior.
 
No? Thats the job for the MoL that is incoming due to LQ sounding the alarm why would she ever take part in an interrogation? None of the options even got that as part of it so dunno why you bring this up?
So what is LQ going to just leave this prisoner behind while she runs in guns blazing? Just expect him to stay here waiting for the tender mercies of the Ministry?

No of course not, she needs to take his ass and bring him to the Ministry so that they can secure him and all the intel.
 
The best role for LQ is to actually cooperate with the people who are planning the full response, so that she's a part of those plans instead of a hotshot haphazardly wandering through the sewers in defiance of the organized response.

The second best role for LQ is to deliver the prisoner for interrogation, which is fortunately the same as the first role.

There's no benefit to being inefficient faster.
There is a benefit of finding these seeds before they go off though. And if we turn around and wait for the ministry (a institution that has not impressed with it's speed in the past) we might have to handle something more ugly.
 
You can say the same thing about LQ for not crippling him, or for Shenhua for forcing the Sect to create the conditions that led to the current Renshu.

And if civilians matter more, it's better to work quickly to try and mitigate the damage while corresponding with the MoL through Six
Shenhua has the most power, that's how it works.

Its because civilian matters more than LQ needs to go to the professionals, with her prisoner in tow so that a proper plan of action can be implemented.

Nobody responds to terrorist attacks with a lone dipshit running in guns blazing. You call in everyone so that you have the manpower and expertise to do a full sweep and protect the civs. Because a lone wolf running in guns blazing has more chances of triggering the explosion while everyone else is still unprepared.
 
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