you do remember that LQ was not alone right? There is MoL right outside there door. (probably not literally, but greens can haul ass from a street away).
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Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
Will they be as fast as LQ? This is crucial intel. The prisoner needed to reach their commanders and interrogators 45 minutes ago.
[ ] Descend down into the sewers yourself and seek to put an end to any continuing operations while the city awakens.
I'm inclined to take this option as there is a giant uncertainty over what is down there, and we have the initiative meaning it is best to spoil their operation to give our side time to respond, or if need be for Ling Qi to bring back intel on the exact locations.
Besides the Grinning Moon this is pretty strong Grinning Moon energy as it has LQ rise to the challenge, and I imagine the GM would facilitate her little sister doing so through giving similar assistance disposing of any seeds by giving them as offerings to the GM.
I'm inclined to take this option as there is a giant uncertainty over what is down there, and we have the initiative meaning it is best to spoil their operation to give our side time to respond, or if need be for Ling Qi to bring back intel on the exact locations.
Besides the Grinning Moon this is pretty strong Grinning Moon energy as it has LQ rise to the challenge, and I imagine the GM would facilitate her little sister doing so through giving similar assistance disposing of any seeds by giving them as offerings to the GM.
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The dudes barely high enough in cultivation to be worth considering. He's not going to book it. The worst he could do is kill himself and I think he's too happy to not be dead right now to do that.
Oliver_Twister
Idea-Man, He Who Shits Ideas
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That's just a possible way to go about it. And if we do miss some, at least we would have taken out the big, high-power ones since they'll have a bigger imprint in the Dream. And going in right now doesn't mean we're doing this haphazardly or that we won't sweep the city very thoroughly. We're a trained scout for the military sect and we're in active contact with the MoL. We won't be doing anything haphazardly.
And the very nature of the attack and the fact that it's only being spotted now means that the city will be thoroughly combed for weeks after this attack. We're only trying to put an end to continuing operations while everyone gets ready ie targetting the ones which are most likely to attack. Then, when the MoL is ready, they can do a more complete search, building their plans and searches around the new info we find since we'll be communicating what we find with them as we go through.
The ruling clan will be very grateful we solved this problem and brought it to their attention before it went off and made them have huge losses. They'll be grateful either way
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
He participated in a Terrorist plot against Shenhua's power.
He'll be lucky to be just soul tortured by the Ministry for intel. If he's unlucky... well Now that he's fucked like this, death might be actually more merciful for him.
So this is what we call in the biz, a risk not worth taking.
Lady_Story
Humble Teller of Stories, Villainess of Legend
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I'm far more concerned with the potential ticking time bomb the city currently is.
This is a tricky one. Cooperating is definitely the right move politically, but delaying risks more danger to civilians. I think we at least need to make sure Yan Shenyi is secured. Can we deliver him to the Ministry, then go ourselves if it's taking too long for them to get organized?
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We are so close to really nailing the case closed that we can work with the ministries and other nobles on issues in the Emerald Seas. We agreed to work with the Ministry of Law to root out the reason our communications were tampered with, we agreed with the head investigator that waiting on nabbing this guy was the right call, and we have a chance to nail shut people's opinion's on our willingness and ability to work with others.
Let's work with the ministry of law and the viscount clan and leverage the reputation it gains us for future projects.
Let's work with the ministry of law and the viscount clan and leverage the reputation it gains us for future projects.
I would actually agree, if there weren't cultivator bombs planted all over the city that could go up whenever. His info is valuable but the initiative is more valuable.
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Look.
If we were dealing with a single boss battle? I'd be all for yoloing this shit, because we could go in, (hopefully) nip the problem in the bud, and go home a hero.
But we're not dealing with a single, discrete entity. We're dealing with a bunch of entities secreted across an entire city's sewers.
And I know LQ has some solid point to point movement speed, but like.
Cities are big.
These seeds will go off; that's not even a question. The question is whether throwing ourselves face first into a couple of nearby seeds before they can escalate and then generally looking for trouble will prevent more harm overall than, you know, actually cooperating with the people with the manpower to stop this.
And I prefer cooperating with the group that can stop this instead of tripping over their own plans on some half-cocked crusade.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
It's not a question of training.
It's a question of scale. LQ as one woman cannot cover all the sewers, she physically cannot. But a joint operation of the Ministry and the Rulong Clan would have the manpower to do so.
If LQ was a Sixth or Seventh Realm she probably could. But she isnt so.
We literally can switch into another realm that shows us pretty directly where cultivator shit is going on. We are the only one here that can do that...
And I'm wondering how the ministry could stop it in a timeframe where many people don't die.
Even without getting into all the political benefits of working with the local authorities, people are very correct that cities are large and we don't know this one. We can't even be certain that there's only one site that needs intervention or that we would be able to find it alone in less time than it would take to get someone who actually knows the area to help us, so having backup is either useful in the best case scenario or outright necessary in the worst case, depending on how spread out these "party favours" are.
No matter how personally quick we might be, we can still only be in one place at a time.
[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.
No matter how personally quick we might be, we can still only be in one place at a time.
[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.
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Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
The Bombs are scattered over an entire city's sewer system. Initiative doesnt matter jack shit. LQ physically cannot cover such a distance by herself, because cities are big, Sewers are big, and the sewers of cities are huge.
His intel is the only lead we have on the location of the other bombs. Which allows the Ministry to send out multiple teams to sweep the city. Multiple teams with some idea of where the things are working in concert, including LQ, will disable far more bombs and save far more lives than LQ doing a lone wolf play against a bombing plot.
I'm interested in figuring out how LQ's truth insights allowed her to bluff Yan Renshu with "Found you." The least technical truth I can get out of the situation is, "I've found you in cahoots with the shishigui." And it was addressed to an enemy, so it may have even been opposed by his social arts. (heh, YN's social arts. Self-aggrandizement and concealment, no truth-seeking?)
I'll accept him being dumb, shocked, or it being too sick of a line to resist as well, but later.
EDIT: an even stronger reason would be yrs experimenting with relaxing the chains of the character sheet. If I hold myself to the same standards that let me give LQ the benefit of the doubt for stealing a worm out of a ribcage, it becomes very close. Far be it for me to stand in the way of writing.
I'll accept him being dumb, shocked, or it being too sick of a line to resist as well, but later.
EDIT: an even stronger reason would be yrs experimenting with relaxing the chains of the character sheet. If I hold myself to the same standards that let me give LQ the benefit of the doubt for stealing a worm out of a ribcage, it becomes very close. Far be it for me to stand in the way of writing.
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Oliver_Twister
Idea-Man, He Who Shits Ideas
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It can still be blamed on Ling Qi.
LQ is already working with professionals though. She's a professional herself since she's trained to scout. And going by the professional route, a terrorist attack from a cult seems more like the MoI than MoL. And a full sweep will be done either way. We're just finding info and ending the big stuff quickly before they can grow to more dangerous levels and harm more civilians before they go in.
We're stopping operations from progressing further while the MoL and the city awaken and prepare. We're not running in guns blazing.
Can you certainly tell me that the ministry will act fast enough to send teams before these things go off? No? Then removing even just part of them is better then waiting until the ministry can get their ass into gear. They didn't even notice these things being planted all over the city...
And everyone saying that cities are big, yes they are. And cultivators are bullshit. Ling is fucking fast and has access to the dream. No normal bomb crew has that.
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
LQ has at best two pair of eyes, legs and arms.
How exactly is she gonna sweep the entire sewers of all the bombs?
Cool, how long does the ministry need to get themselves together? 1 hour? 2? 3? Because they definitely didn't suspect a terrorist plot going on and have not prepared for it.
Initiative is the key word here, either we keep the initiative or we lose it.
Oliver_Twister
Idea-Man, He Who Shits Ideas
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But we just traversed the whole city while watching Yan's cousin? LQ can cover lots of distances pretty quickly.
We're not doing a lone wolf plot. We're still in contact with them.
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
As for your first point, that's not what happened? We went into the dream and saw early warning signs of institutional decay, not a lattice of horrors to stamp out. If we were Dreamwalker 10 I could maybe see us dreamstepping from corruption patch to corruption patch, but LQ just commented in this update that she's not good enough to track people through Dream based off of impressions yet.
As for the second point, if the Ministry isn't fast enough to stop this, we won't be either - because we are one person, and cities are big.
My assumption is that people are going to die no matter what we do. My hope is to minimize the overall harm, and working with the group that has the manpower to actually stamp this out will be far better for minimizing total harm than running off on our own.
- Location
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[ ] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.