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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Deadly Snark said:
This planet is a deathworld. Spirits and environment warp each other. Big cities in the Empire are literally build with effectively terraforming wards. And nobody is gonna bother with installing too many of those in the sewers. These are not "Old cities and old sewers" they are basically Fantasy colony cities.

So its a sewer on a deathworld and the terrorists are Cultivator Mole people from an underground society.

Well there is no hope of LQ sweeping the entire sewer, while there is hope that the Cultivators of the Ministry can act fast enough. Or what is them being Cultivators, Forces of Nature in the Making in your own words, not good enough now?
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Skitzyfrenic said:
Because geomancy is an actual thing and we know CRX' dad is an urban planner unfucking the shit that the Hui let happen. Even if it's built for normal people the feng shui is a thing.
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Cool, that would make the sewers even more ordered and easier to search, because they would have been designed with feng shui and all that.

And as for the ministry having any cultivators as high as us on standby that's a big if. The only hope on the front are the local nobles and how long it takes to get enough of those together is guesswork at best.

And yes, initiative matters massively because if we can even just quarter the things that awaken instead of having to fight all with help we will be much better off.
 
Okay, consider the following:

We just made an offering to Grinning. Grinning is a woman of motion, of action, of doing this. In my personal opinion we have the opportunity to capitalize on that by descending into the tunnels ourselves. As far as we should be concerned, Yan Shenyi is currently useless other than to corroborate everything, whereas there may be literal ticking time bombs below us. Is there any real reason not to at least try to cut off some of the damage before it becomes a nuisance? We can always rally with others later.
 
Tobtorp said:
Cool, that would make the sewers even more ordered and easier to search, because they would have been designed with feng shui and all that.

And as for the ministry having any cultivators as high as us on standby that's a big if. The only hope on the front are the local nobles and how long it takes to get enough of those together is guesswork at best.

And yes, initiative matters massively because if we can even just quarter the things that awaken instead of having to fight all with help we will be much better off.
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The Bombs or whatever they are will kill them, so if they dont wake up in time after we tell them, they deserve to die. But in the off chance that they arent suicidal it will save far more lives.

And you have no idea on what the things are or where they are. You cannot guarantee that quartering the things will leave everyone much better off, nor can you back up the wild claim that LQ will somehow be able to take down 1 in 4 of those things by herself with no backup or support.

This is hubris talking. Not cultivators being awesome.

[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.
 
Definitely work with the Ministry.
yrsillar said:
And she saw the black rot beginning to set in at the foundations. Apathy, stagnation.
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This is the rot setting into the city's Dream. Sure Ling Qi could likely deal with the whole thing if she tries hard enough, but this whole thing was a plan to kill her specifically and the city incidentally. So why not go at it from the most unexpected (for Yan Renshu) angle?

Have the Ministry try to clean this trap both to combat the whole "Apathy, Stagnation" thing going on, but also to document things in specific to try and make sure this thing can't be done to anywhere else too. This way Ling Qi will be far away from the anti-Ling Qi trap, the Ministry will feel like they owe us massive face, Yan Renshu will feel we are hounding him in specific (because if he still has other ways of getting news from the city the clean up will be of the Ministry taking credit), we'd get credit for this whole thing to the people in the know, and most importantly, we'd get a get out of jail free card that says us meddling with things in the future might just be beneficial to wherever it is we are meddling on.

[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.
 
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Deadly Snark said:
The Bombs or whatever they are will kill them, so if they dont wake up in time after we tell them, they deserve to die. But in the off chance that they arent suicidal it will save far more lives.

And you have no idea on what the things are or where they are. You cannot guarantee that quartering the things will leave everyone much better off, nor can you back up the wild claim that LQ will somehow be able to take down 1 in 4 of those things by herself with no backup or support.

This is hubris talking. Not cultivators being awesome.

[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.
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Cool if we go by hard facts, prove that the ministry can get people fast enough together to do something? Because that's your claim.
 
[X] Descend down into the sewers yourself and seek to put an end to any continuing operations while the city awakens.
 
While I can see the impulse to try and head things off, given the escalating nature of these things, I'm not really convinced that Sixian doing the equivalent of texting our local ministry contacts is gonna inspire the same urgency and convey the same detail as reconvening with the local forces in person.

Basically, if the locals are well organized, then being available to answer questions and explain in detail is critical to make sure forces are dispatched effectively. It is worth noting that few outside of the Argent Sect have direct experience against these foes, after all.
If they are not and are dragging their feet instead, it's probably even more important that we're there to get things running sooner rather than partially delaying the gribbly escalation in person, because I don't see us completely stalling this solo and even just a few minutes of getting the Viscount to make a move sooner are a huge deal.
 
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Tobtorp said:
Cool if we go by hard facts, prove that the ministry can get people fast enough together to do something? Because that's your claim.
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Because they have operatives and operations in this city already. Because we were already told that they have been roused into action. Because that's their job. And because they've been helpful in this operation so far, LQ wouldnt even have gotten here without their intel, their help and their plan.

They've done nothing to indicate that they are pants on the head incompetent. Which is what would be required for them to fuck up as much as you are assuming.
 
[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.

I think this is the right character choice for Qi right now, but giving up the initiative is going to be costly.
 
I think the core of the decision is whether you want to sacrifice the initiative to gather more allies or no. The worst of the attack has been blunted greatly when LQ threw away the worm in the dude's lung since that was the big trigger for everything. I'm leaning towards talking to the ministry, since LQ has a lot of support arts that will help allies in whatever big boss battle is coming up.

[X] Withdraw, seek cooperation with the Ministry and the ruling family, go down as a group.
 
Tobtorp said:
Cool if we go by hard facts, prove that the ministry can get people fast enough together to do something? Because that's your claim.
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Ling Qi is not the only cultivator in the city.

Just because a person is not talented enough to reach Ling Qi's realm at a young age (to qualify for nobility) doesn't mean said person's cultivation will be worthless (and even this is doubtful because one armed Moon bro wanted to join the Ministry). This is the Ministry's HQ. If they don't have any heavy hitters available, then they have the influence to borrow them from elsewhere to deal with this thing.
 
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Deadly Snark said:
Because they have operatives and operations in this city already. Because we were already told that they have been roused into action. Because that's their job. And they've been helpful in this operation so far, LQ wouldnt even have gotten here without their intel, their help and their plan.

They've done nothing to indicate that they are pants on the head incompetent. Which is what would be required for them to fuck up as much as you are assuming.
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This operation was a simply stalk and grab, not anti terror. The ministry here had no idea this was even a possibility. They only expected someone with a grudge messing with our mail, not a city wide terror Attack, why the fuck would they have anything more then a small team ready?

I'm not saying their incompetent, I'm saying their slow.
 
Tobtorp said:
Cool if we go by hard facts, prove that the ministry can get people fast enough together to do something? Because that's your claim.
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Isn't this the seat of a Viscount Family? There's a non-zero chance that the Indigo Viscount is home, and if they aren't there's likely to be multiple Cyans who have a substantial investment in their city not being destroyed.
 
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FriedIce said:
Isn't this the seat of a Viscount Family? There's a non-zero chance that the Indigo Viscount is home, and if they aren't there's likely to be multiple Cyans.
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TimEd said:
Ling Qi is not the only cultivator in the city.

Just because a person is not talented enough to reach Ling Qi's realm at a young age (to qualify for nobility) doesn't mean said person's cultivation will be worthless. This is the Ministry's HQ. If they don't have any heavy hitters available, then they have the influence to borrow them from elsewhere to deal with this thing.
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And how long will it take to gather all these cultivators, inform them, get them to actually take it seriously and then organize them? Because I don't think they do monthly anti terror Drills...
 
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