Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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What if we suggest the Ma eventually getting territory in this pseudo Viscounty, such that they'd be our peers (albeit just vassals instead of fellow retainers) instead of our subordinates?

Seems pretty likely, they want to stand on their own, but this is going to be prime real estate for young Barons given Renxiang's investment here, since the land's entirely untamed but high level support is a distress call away.

And as collaborators in the Student Council, they'll likely get the nod over rando applicants.
 
Wait... what!? I don't remember this vote! 😅

It was during Hanyi's first concert, just before the sabotage. We were talking with the leading baron of the region along with a few other local nobles. That's when we could choose Road or Craft. We chose Road, and got a briefing about the Black Lotus Mountain situation.
But it's not like we forfeited the Craft quest forever, it's just locked until we finish Road first.

Here, this was the vote
[] Speak with the nobles whose lands lie on the trade road. (Begin Political Quest, old Road/New Road Part 1. Other route locked until Part 1 completion)
[] Speak with the craftsman and hill nobles (Begin Political Quest, Craftsmen's Eye. Other route locked until Part 1 completion.)

Because we already have the Wang Roads, leading to both the Sect and the summit place, the Craftsmen quest seems much more appealing for the fief.
But it's true that lore-wise the Black Lotus Mountain is still more interesting, so I'm fine with it.
 
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I hope that one of the Baronies near us would be a typical Barony, as in someone who broke through to Green then spent like 10-20 years running around under a liege to get capital to start their own fief. I just want the thoughts/perspective of a normal Barony so I think it'll be neat if we got one as a neighbour. We can learn about the absurdity of our acts to see how privileged we are and value how we develop our fief. And we can advise them based on what the usual pitfalls of normal baronies fall into when developing so that they can grow and we'll hopefully gain a loyal, honest retainer in the future.
 
We should probably talk to CRX about the plans for the plateau and the valley, and the kinds of things we can offer to draw more minor clans or even a minor branch of a major clan to our direct banner. And we should talk to the Ma sisters about what they want, if we the players are set on bringing them in. I'd be pretty hype if we could snag a proper cultivator clan, one that'll come with industry, to be subordinate or a peer 'court' clan. The Ma sisters are not on scholarship correct? So we don't have to buy out their military service like we would have to for Ling Yu Nuan, or for potential adoptee Fefe's Friend whose name always escapes me because Fefe's Friend is just fun to say, write, or think.

The transition to hamlet is about when I'm expecting it to be or be very close to the time to bring Mom and Biyu (Unless we buy the sect building we only have a few more months we can realistically stash the family there, so they have to be moved) and the household, but no later than Small Town. And that's really too late to look into subordinate clans, if we want to hit the ground running. I mean I know that we're red stoning our household, so we can maybe score a household subordinate clan out of them if some of the girls get married, to like the red-yellow guards who have shown interest and might come along with us. But I think we should look into how it forms, how it works, and the legal protections it would offer.

I suggest poaching (I mean people who are about to finish their mandatory service, or people we find and like during War turns) a few of the guards from the sect if we can. Entice them with our households' womanly wiles, and our insight into cultivation maybe helping a few of them make some breakthroughs. I especially want to see if we can find an older green, who didn't make the baronial cut and is mustering our of the sect's military, who wants/is willing to come be captain of the (our) guards (I'm sure that CRX and GG have their own thing going too, but this would kill two birds with one stone, giving us time to build our own forces and have dedicated protectors of our things).
 
And that's really too late to look into subordinate clans, if we want to hit the ground running.

Meizhen's dad's spy network would be a great way to look for eager participants for our fief. Most of the contacts are low level cultivators of varying backgrounds who are aligned with our cultural agenda. Of course this would remove their spy value but we could dip into this pool if we need someone with specific skill set.
 
Unless we buy the sect building we only have a few more months we can realistically stash the family there, so they have to be moved
Minor nitpick, but I think it's fairly likely that we'll buy the house with all the work we put into it but even without that Yu Nuan is still in the sect so we'd still have the right to stash our fam there since they are technically her family.
 
So... Why are we, and presumably Xia Lin too, using our personal funds to expand Snowblossom Outpost? It's not our personal demesne and so we are basically just giving money to the Cai. We owe a decade of military service to the Cai and so I don't mind if we use our time improving CRX's fief, but spending our own money to do so is just bizarre.
 
So... Why are we, and presumably Xia Lin too, using our personal funds to expand Snowblossom Outpost? It's not our personal demesne and so we are basically just giving money to the Cai. We owe a decade of military service to the Cai and so I don't mind if we use our time improving CRX's fief, but spending our own money to do so is just bizarre.
Iirc it actually our personal demesne. The cai don't live in the wild. Lady cai will use it for the diplomatic mission but we are the one getting a land grant.
 
So... Why are we, and presumably Xia Lin too, using our personal funds to expand Snowblossom Outpost? It's not our personal demesne and so we are basically just giving money to the Cai. We owe a decade of military service to the Cai and so I don't mind if we use our time improving CRX's fief, but spending our own money to do so is just bizarre.

Iirc it actually our personal demesne. The cai don't live in the wild. Lady cai will use it for the diplomatic mission but we are the one getting a land grant.

This has been kind of an unclear point from back when we chose which fief we wanted.
Were we choosing our particular fief or a shared fief with Renxiang?
As it turned out, it was both. We share the land with Renxiang and the rest of the entourage until there is something worth dividing, then we will be "on our own".
Technically, we will have to deal with defense, administration and payments ourselves.

Until then we have the "problem" of investing in improvements and terrain that may end up not being "ours".
But I would wager that the benefits far outstrip the drawbacks.
 
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On the more calculating side of things, the more we invest and integrate our personal clan resources, particularly Zhengui and personnel, into a particular aspect and/or area in the fief, the more naturally it will be seen as ours when it comes to divide up the land. We also don't know Gan's long term plans or ambitions. Ling Qi quite clearly has a family and strong interest in what will lead to building a clan already (Zhengui alone pushes her towards acquiring land and a tax base).

Honestly, the guy is a deep thinker. He's going to have a general plan in mind. Ling Qi should sit down with him and figure out what they both want long term out of this area so they can make decisions and plans to mutually support each other better (and then seal the deal with a marriage between Gan and the newly adopted Ling Ling, formerly Su Ling. :V ).
 
So... Why are we, and presumably Xia Lin too, using our personal funds to expand Snowblossom Outpost? It's not our personal demesne and so we are basically just giving money to the Cai. We owe a decade of military service to the Cai and so I don't mind if we use our time improving CRX's fief, but spending our own money to do so is just bizarre.

First because for the foreseeable future we're living here and are also responsible for it to succeed. I would like to have a nice, defensible, profitable home than one that isn't.

Second, it's an investment. We will be getting profits/materials from this place even if they aren't all going to us. A lot of that is probably going to go back into the fief but we'll be using enough to keep us and our spirits growing.

Third, even if this doesn't become our own personal demesne it's going to be the jumping off point for our personal one. That means we'll have to source manpower and resources from it to build our own.

Fourth, in the far future it may actual become our personal demesne once Renxiang is called to work more province wide or when we overthrow Shenhua. Like if we play our cards right this is going to become the capital of a Count sized area and we're going to become a Count clan.
 
Until then we have the "problem" of investing in improvements and terrain that may end up not being "ours".

But I would wager that the benefits far outstrip the drawbacks.
To be honest, I'm not really that much against funding the growth of Snowblossom. I trust CRX will eventually repay our investment in some way or another. It's just that this whole thing happened without any vote or even explanation, making me wonder what the fuck is happening.
 
We should invite CRX over for tea on a regular basis after the fief gets divided. Given the way that she functions, she'll probably accidentally solve the bulk of our administrative problems while travelling to our demesne.
 
We should invite CRX over for tea on a regular basis after the fief gets divided. Given the way that she functions, she'll probably accidentally solve the bulk of our administrative problems while travelling to our demesne.
Isn't it our job as her friend and retainer to make sure she takes a nap at least once a month? She really doesn't need us shoving our work off on her.. We should still invite her over for tea of course, since that's one of the few relaxing hobbies she allows herself.
 
You're right, and I jested. (Mostly. With how a cultivators Way works in this universe, she probably literally cannot help herself.) Still, regularly asking for her advice when it comes to matters of administration is probably a good idea.
 
I mean I would have understood if CRX decided to keep us working for her as she build her capital but she said we are not dividing the land yet which feels very much like she is stringing us along for investments. Which is weird considering she is paying us more than we can put in but still.

I suppose picking this option for our land only to confronted with the fact that it is not ours and will not be solely ours with no firm answers is what is causing this.

Also as I mentioned I still don't know how big of a land this it. I imagine it should not be that big since this is a valley but some clarification will be helpful.
 
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It was during Hanyi's first concert, just before the sabotage. We were talking with the leading baron of the region along with a few other local nobles. That's when we could choose Road or Craft. We chose Road, and got a briefing about the Black Lotus Mountain situation.
But it's not like we forfeited the Craft quest forever, it's just locked until we finish Road first.

Here, this was the vote


Because we already have the Wang Roads, leading to both the Sect and the summit place, the Craftsmen quest seems much more appealing for the fief.
But it's true that lore-wise the Black Lotus Mountain is still more interesting, so I'm fine with it.


Whoops yes!! Thank you very much!!
 
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Turn 15: Arc 2-2
"I must thank you for the opportunity, Miss Ling," Gan Guangli boomed cheerfully as they set out from the outpost, setting off across the higher plain where the southern stretch of the Snow Blossom river flowed. There was only dusting of snow, a mere fifteen or twenty centimeters or so, and where she stood atop the blanket of white, Gan Guangli's stout boots dug a trench without difficulty.

"Ah well, it's not something I think deserves thanks. I just think Xia Lin needs a bit more time to settle," she smiled innocently. "And I do think I owe you an adventure. Really, I'm still a little mad at you and Su Ling."

Gan Guangli chuckled awkwardly. "Come now Miss Ling, there's no need for that."

"Oh I think there is," Ling Qi said, flitting ahead to perch on a high, narrow branch. "How long, really?"

He stopped a moment, crossing his arms and raising his chin in defiance. Ling Qi leaned down, her loose bangs casting her eyes in shadow. Flecks of cold blue met gleaming gold, and the land around was cast in twilight by the shine of the dawn and the dark of midnight.

"Heh, that's my girl, you know what's serious," Sixiang snickered.

"Honestly," Gan Guangli sighed. "Only Miss Su only acknowledged things after the tournament."

"But it started earlier," Ling QI said as they resumed walking, or rather, Gan Guangli did. Ling Qi drifted along the blanket of snow, glinting sparkles of light drifting out to keep watch on their surroundings. Of course paying close attention, she could feel the faint reverberation of qi in the sound of Gan Guangli's crunching footsteps.

"Did you invite me solely to gossip, Miss Ling?" Gan Guangli countered.

Ling Qi came to a stop atop an ice slick log and coughed into her hand. "...No."

That wasn't the only reason.

"...I enjoy her company, and it bothered me to see her alone," Gan Guangli finally offered, not booming as usual, but in a more thoughtful tone.

"Many people enjoy being alone," Ling Qi pointed out.

"Miss Su does not," Gan Guangli said. "In fact it is my belief that she quite dislikes being in only her own company."

Not wrong, Ling Qi thought absently. "I'm still surprised."

"It is what it is, it remains to be seen if it becomes something more," he replied serenly.

Ling Qi narrowed her eyes at his unflappable expression. "That's not how you were acting in the Medicine Hall."

"She told me what you had suggested, before you went," Gan Guangli suggested, giving her a flat look.

Ling Qi looked away, flitting past a few trees. Su Ling did need that, blatant affection and drama and all.

"But are you serious?" Ling Qi asked, letting the subject drop. She trusted Gan Guangli, he was simple too… Guangli for panicked whispers of past experience in her mind to take hold. Su Ling was safe, even if the girl hadn't stood before a fourth realm's projection and drawn its blood with a broken blade.

Gan Guangli frowned deeply. "I want to believe I am, but at the same time I do not want to burden Lady Cai further."

There was a rub, for both of them, strengthening their clans with connections and alliances was part of their duty, and in the end, marriage was the strongest bargaining chip a new clan had. "Su Ling is strong."

"She is," Gan Guangli agreed

There were a few thoughts, the business with the Diao, what she suspected of their connection. The offer Hualing had made implying they wished to take her in. Adoption was just as viable as marriage, particularly if she got to come right back to them all…

"You are plotting, Miss Ling," Gan Guangli observed, in a voice of deep concern.

"Just considering the future," it was just a silly line of thought. Perhaps Su Ling could rise well in one of the Ministries or the Sect itself. That would still be fine. She was overthinking things.

"So, how much have you heard of the reports," Ling Qi asked, changing the subject.

He gave her a suspicious look, but seemed to decide that it was better not to pursue. "The possible spirit court lies in the dense forested region in the south east centered on one of the feeding tributaries which merges with the river. Scouts reported a dense concentration of spirit beast qi, as well as a seemingly organized alarm response to their appearance near the areas edge. Scouts withdrew to avoid causing offense."

"The qi of the area was mostly water and wood," Ling Qi added absently. "Or under the imperial elements, water, earth and mountain."
"Probably a stubborn but not too prickly bunch then," Gan Guangli laughed, his boisterous tone returning. "You left sir Zhengui behind to avoid an incident I suppose."

Her little brother had been a little annoyed but yes. "Zhengui is the sort of spirit which will definitely gather a court to himself. Bringing him along could easily be seen as a challenge."

"Most wise," Gan Guangli agreed. "Spirit lords are only just less territorial lot then we Imperials!"

Ling Qi smiled at the jest. "What is your experience with spirit beasts Gan Guangli? I'm a little surprised you didn't find a bound spirit earlier."

A shadow passed over his expression. "The spirits and beasts of my home are not friendly. The legacy of Chu was a great deal of banditry and proscribed cultivation, out in the hinterlands. It left me with some poor impressions. But I have since learned better!"

Though he remained cheerful, Ling Qi got the sense that it wasn't the best time to press, and they were approaching the forest anyway. So she simply nodded and flitted ahead.

The pine forest was dense and dark. Ice and snow hung heavily from fragrant branches packed tight together, and the ground was as much gnarled roots as earth and stone. The darkness was natural though, and the air was light and crisp, full of birdsong and the calls of beasts. They followed the route of the tributary river, which was wide but in many places shallow, running clear over a bed of smooth rocks, burbling and crashing as it fell down little slopes and cliffs.

The first sign of their destination was the growing density of qi in the air and the wider spacing of the trees. Here and there were clusters of tree stumps, letting in the early afternoon light. Strangely fresh saplings sprouted up from some of the old stumps.

Still a dense wood, but ordered in a way that it had not been before. And so, Ling Qi raised a hand to stop her companion.

"You sense it as well then," Gan Guangli said gravely, peering into the woods ahead. "I can feel the thunder of falling waters and the tramping of many feet. How do we proceed?"

Ling Qi hummed to herself thoughtfully. "Have you spoken to a spirit court before?"

"Only the House of Colors, and only in tribulation," Gan Guangli said, stroking his chin. He tilted his head listening to a voice she could not hear.

"Probably the realm of the local avatar of the Rising Sun," Sixiang murmured.

"In this case, we aren't coming as supplicants or tribulation seekers. We're here as neighbors, not quite peers, as that would be Lady Cai," Ling Qi said. "But we have to present ourselves as her hands, to set the right tone for speaking."
"You believe we should show our presence fully?" Gan Guangli asked.

"I believe we should be clear with our intentions," Ling Qi said. "I have a song for this, welcoming and greeting."

"Then I shall follow your lead, Miss Ling," he said.

She nodded and stepped forward, alighting on a trio of clustered stumps from which a single pale green sapling grew. Her hand twitched to grasp her flute, and she frowned when nothing came from her storage ring. It wasn't a matter to worry about, the Songs of the spirit seekers could be sung as easily as they were played.

Her heart still ached in its absence.

Ling Qi straightened her shoulders and begin to sing a high aria of arrival and welcome. The winds billowed, causing the hem of her dress and her heavy mantle to flare filling the air with the rustling of cloth, as her clothes billowed around her and her hair whipped in the wind. She sang and her feet rose from the stumps, frost spread on the grass beneath her, and the sunlight grew dim.

Mist flowed, where her dress ended and it began it would be hard to say, it spilled like water, tendrils of cold night mist billowing out. Wisps of silver light spun and danced, emerging from the folds of her gown, and her blowing hair became a halo of star filled darkness from which the winking faces of the moon peaked now and then. Sixiang's arms wrapped around her shoulder, the muse's wispy form materializing as they joined her song, and spun winking colors into the monochrome starlight of her aura.

And at her side, rising above the horizon she made was a sun rising from a mountain. Marble and gold, his head towered above the straying treetops, a determined visage carved from stone, shoulders that were the slopes of a great peak, standing straight under the weight of the world. Hands that bore no weapons but gleamed with scouring light, boots set far apart to withstand the coming storm. He stared ahead, and beyond her redoubtable, offering no challenge, only a promise. A second figure liquid gold and burning within overlaid him, a second silhouette and visage just slightly offset from his own.

Both of them ceased to hold back their building domains, and just as her song echoed through the air, so too did their presence resound in the world.

The response began with the loud crack, and then another and another, dozens and dozens echoing off in the distance. Like the sound of boat oars striking the water again and again. It echoed int the forest and the mountains beyond, the closest ones fading as those further back took up the sound, making a rolling wave of sound that slowly traveled into the distance.

As it faded away beyond their hearing, Ling Qi finished her song, and with an exhalation of breath shrunk back into herself, becoming once more merely a tall girl in a luxurious gown, and so too did Gan Guangli become just a young man again.

"Well I can't say exactly what those signals meant, but I think we made our impression," she said, stepping down from the stump, despite the lingering frost on the grass, the pale green sapling remained untouched.

"If you say so, Miss Ling," Gan Guangli said. "I can perceive only a great stirring of motion."

Ling Qi tiled her head absently, turning her mind toward the perceptions of the silver wisp released during her song, and the reverberations moving through the liminal. Her song had gone up the river and now the response spilled back down, not with the violence of a spring flood, but more like the steadiness of summer swelling, whatever ruled here was aware and watching, but not hostile. Curious? No, not really. Waiting. It seems they were expected.

"Come, let's not make the greeting committee travel too far now."

AN Hey guys, got some reallife stuff going on and this bit ended up longer than intended so I'll be splitting it here
 
She trusted Gan Guangli, he was simple too… Guangli for panicked whispers of past experience in her mind to take hold.

Gan Guangli really is a human shaped golden retriever


Mist flowed, where her dress ended and it began it would be hard to say, it spilled like water, tendrils of cold night mist billowing out. Wisps of silver light spun and danced, emerging from the folds of her gown, and her blowing hair became a halo of star filled darkness from which the winking faces of the moon peaked now and then. Sixiang's arms wrapped around her shoulder, the muse's wispy form materializing as they joined her song, and spun winking colors into the monochrome starlight of her aura.

And at her side, rising above the horizon she made was a sun rising from a mountain. Marble and gold, his head towered above the straying treetops, a determined visage carved from stone, shoulders that were the slopes of a great peak, standing straight under the weight of the world. Hands that bore no weapons but gleamed with scouring light, boots set far apart to withstand the coming storm. He stared ahead, and beyond her redoubtable, offering no challenge, only a promise. A second figure liquid gold and burning within overlaid him, a second silhouette and visage just slightly offset from his own.

Absolutely incredible, Rising Sun over the Mists.
 
Flecks of cold blue met gleaming gold, and the land around was cast in twilight by the shine of the dawn and the dark of midnight.
Mist flowed, where her dress ended and it began it would be hard to say, it spilled like water, tendrils of cold night mist billowing out. Wisps of silver light spun and danced, emerging from the folds of her gown, and her blowing hair became a halo of star filled darkness from which the winking faces of the moon peaked now and then. Sixiang's arms wrapped around her shoulder, the muse's wispy form materializing as they joined her song, and spun winking colors into the monochrome starlight of her aura.

And at her side, rising above the horizon she made was a sun rising from a mountain. Marble and gold, his head towered above the straying treetops, a determined visage carved from stone, shoulders that were the slopes of a great peak, standing straight under the weight of the world. Hands that bore no weapons but gleamed with scouring light, boots set far apart to withstand the coming storm. He stared ahead, and beyond her redoubtable, offering no challenge, only a promise. A second figure liquid gold and burning within overlaid him, a second silhouette and visage just slightly offset from his own.
This is why I voted for GG. That Sun/Moon aesthetic is 👌👍💯
 
It really feels like not inviting Su Ling to the Wang club way back then was a mistake. Not only did we fail to bring proper tribulations, which is just poor form for Ling Qi, but now both she and Gan Guangli agree that Su Ling really needs that kind of socializing. Excited to work with Diao Hualing next now that Ling Qi has got a scheme in mind. Working on the Old Road, on figuring out who sabotaged Hanyi's performance, while also getting closer to the woman that's key to helping Su Ling hunt her mother and getting the boy? Miss Diao's got a lot going for her.
 
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