Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Aestia Valley. - The forum version is currently at a school

Cradle (check your library or bookstore, I read the amazon e-book versions). - good, non-jerk but also not school focused.

Mother of Learning - school setting but not cultivation. MC is deliberately unlikable initially but he gets better.
Having read Cradle and Mother of Learning, I gotta say both are excellent. I read Cradle on Kindle Unlimited but there may be other ways to get the ebook. Mother of Learning may not be a cultivation story but it is still awesome. Like LLSix, the main character is made to be kinda unlikable but the whole point is that you get to see him mature and grow as a person.
 
Having read Cradle and Mother of Learning, I gotta say both are excellent. I read Cradle on Kindle Unlimited but there may be other ways to get the ebook. Mother of Learning may not be a cultivation story but it is still awesome. Like LLSix, the main character is made to be kinda unlikable but the whole point is that you get to see him mature and grow as a person.
I second Mother of Learning. It's pretty excellent throughout it pretty twisty twists on plot progression. My only (slight) gripe with that story was that I felt that some characters in the final battle had a sort of "meh" contribution and development, especially the antagonists. It was still all sorts of cool but I wanted it a bit more even and some more stakes and "back-and-forth".

Will Wight's cradle is by far the best cultivation story I read. A lot of the annoying tropes I disliked on Wuxia/Xuanxia are neatly removed. A lot of excellent character development, too!
 
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Turn 9: Arc 2-2
"Yes, I will be along shortly," Ling Qi said, dipping her head deferentially.

"Very good, I will see you there," Wang Chao said with a grin. It was funny, he really seemed to be enjoying himself.

As he strode away, Ling Qi turned back to Zhengui, and held back a frown. She could tell that her little brother was still discontent. "I'll only be gone for a little while. Do you think that you'll be fine?"

"Of course, Big Sister should not doubt," Zhen hissed. Gui remained silent.

Ling Qi studied him. "Zhengui, you really are doing well, okay?"

"Gui is glad," he said, but it didn't feel sincere.

"You're not going to get anything by pressing right now," Sixiang murmured.

Ling Qi didn't like it, but Sixiang was right. Still, she reached out to pat him on the head, trying to convey the pride she felt in his ability. He pressed his head against her hand before turning and lumbering away to begin spreading ash and restoring the field.

Ling Qi sighed, and sat down to meditate and recover her qi, and if a silver wisp escaped the hem of her dress to hide among the tall grass and keep an eye on him, no one was going to notice.


***​

A few minutes of meditation did much to help her center herself and prepare for interacting with others again. Honestly, the people here were a relatively straightforward lot. A few baronial scions, as well as the children of soldiers and craftsmen, here to raise their families status or deepen connections to the Sect.

It was not exactly a gathering of the politically connected.

It was with that thought firmly in mind that she entered the pavilion. Outside, Zhengui was still wandering the field, idly scattering ash and regrowing burned up plant life. There were a handful of other disciples out there, still sparring or talking, as well as Alingge and the many spirit beasts, but none seemed inclined to approach him.

...She hoped he wouldn't spend the whole time alone.

"Welcome Miss Ling, feeling recovered?" Wang Chao asked, interrupting her thoughts. Ling Qi smiled politely.

"I am, I hope everyone else is feeling well too," Ling Qi said, scanning the people present. Liang He was here, standing off to one side. There were also a half dozen people, including the girl with iron fans, who had been participating in the exercise. Ling Qi had made sure to learn everyone's names this time.

"And I'll be here to jog your memory if necessary," Sixiang chuckled silently.

"We are not all so fragile," the girl, Hou Min said, giving one of the others, a haughty look.

Bo Jun, the one who had been wielding the spear, gave her an irritable look. "Of course, Miss Hou, you are welcome to take the vanguard for the next… how many times was it?"

"Five at my count," Wang Chao cut in, bulling into the conversation heedlessly. "Even if you were wavering on that last one."

"It was an impressive effort," Ling Qi had to admit, she couldn;t fault him for being eager to see the end of the exercise, after how many times they had reset the field. Still, she wished that she had been able to cultivate the social art, she had intended to work on before this, but with her injury, there just hadn't been enough time.

"Miss Ling is most impressive, there is no shame in a loss to her," Liang He said.

"With a cultivation schedule such as hers, it should be no surprise," one of the other disciples commented.

"Practically a hermit, some say," another said lightly.

Ling Qi smiled, ignoring the implication. "Naturally, one must work very hard to meet the expectations of Lady Cai, I would never wish to shame her by appearing to slack in my growth."

"Mm, Miss Ling likes to play at mystery, but she is surprisingly practical," Wang Chao chuckled. "I think you have done too good a job with your public image!"

"I may have presented too hard a face at first," Ling Qi said deferentially, it wasn't a bad time to admit a small fault. "It does sadden me that I may have made myself unwelcoming to the less brash of my peers."

Of course, there was no need to take all of the blame.

Outside, Zhengui was surveying his work. One of the spirit beasts, a tiny sparrow, alighted on a fence post nearby, and began twittering. Zhengui looked confused.

She didn't allow her attention to wander from the conversation though.
"I think Miss Ling's achievements speak for themselves," said another of the gathered disciples, a mousy girl with dark brown hair and a complexion similar to Ling Qi's.

"On that we can agree. Already stories of your quick thinking down in the caverns have begun to spread," Wang Chao said pompously. "They say that it was only your efforts that saved the expedition from ruin."

"That is overstating matters," Ling Qi said, it felt odd to see so many people hanging on her words. It would be one thing if she was performing but she was only trading words. "Commander Guan Zhi and Senior Sect brother Liao Zhu were ultimately responsible for our success. I merely had the ability to blunt the damage from the transport malfunction."

"It is worrying that a work of our Elder Jiao failed in such a way," Bo Jun said with a frown.

"It was an unforeseen environmental effect," Ling Qi said smoothly. That was the line they were told to stick too. "Discovering such things was after all the purpose of our expedition."

"And it was certainly a brave thing to volunteer for such a task," Wang Chao said cheerfully. "To often do those who eschew valour wheedle their way to prominence. Despite your background, you are quite the warrior, Miss Ling."

Ling Qi kept her expression neutral as she moved to take a cup of cider from the refreshments table, and the others began to discuss their own experiences with the war effort so far. That was… probably meant as a compliment, Wang Chao was not, as she learned the type to be backhanded, he was just somewhat inconsiderate.

Outside, the bird had fluttered away, and Zhengui was heading toward the feeding troughs that had been placed out for the larger beasts. Unlike the pavilion, where the majority of the disciples were standing near the tables sipping and nibbling at treats, the troughs were occupied by only a single beast, Wang Chao's black mountain goat.

As Zhengui trundled up, the other beast paused in his chewing, and turned a gimlet eye to her little brother. Zhengui stopped, and something passed between them. Zhen hissed, arching his body to look down, and the goat turned, staring him down fearlessly.

Ling Qi's eyebrows rose as Zhen let out a sizzling hiss. The goat lowered his horned head, thick neck muscles tensing under shaggy fur. Gui stamped his feet, and the goat pawed the ground.

She turned toward the entrance to the pavillion, but before she could open her mouth to speak, there was a massive thunderclap from outside, and the cloth of the pavilion rustled in the wind.

Outside, Zehngui had skidded backward some six or seven meters, digging deep furrows with his feet and leaving a trail of snapped off roots. The goat on the other hand, had steaming venom running down the front of his head, and shook himself irritably flinging away sizzling drops. "Sir Wang-" she began.

She was cut off by the stout young man's laughter. Wang Chao was peering out of the tent. "It looks like our beasts are having a bit of fun without us, Miss Ling."

Ling Qi's eyebrows rose as she saw Zhengui stomping on the ground, raising spearing roots that deflected off of shaggy fur. The goat responded by lowering his head and launching himself forward horns first again. Gui pulled his head back into his shell, and there was a thunderclap of impact again. She saw Zhengui's feet actually leave the ground for a second as he was launched backward.

"Sir Wang, perhaps we should go out and settle things down," she said, resisting the urge to rush out. It wasn't like Zhengui was actually hurt, but…

"Ah, do not be so concerned Miss Ling, such is just Fensui's way of giving greeting. He certainly knocked me for a loop the first time we met! That beast of yours is more than tough enough to handle his hello," Wang Chao dismissed.

Ling Qi was about to express her doubt, but looking outside, as Zhengui hit the ground with a thump and shook himself, the goat, Fensui had already turned back to the trough. Zhen hissed angrily, and Fensui raised his head briefly, ears flicking irritably. Something passed between them again, and Zhengui stared in bafflement. When he took a step forward, it was cautious, but there was no reaction. Soon, he was at the feeding trough.

"Just dumb macho stuff, wind it down a little Ling Qi," Sixiang chuckled.

"Your beast truly is remarkable, where ever did you find such a creature?" hou Min asked a little casually, bringing back the conversation that had fallen silent with the thunderclap.

"Zhengui was a bit of incredible good fortune," Ling Qi said, still keeping an eye on them through the wisp. They were clearly still communicating and it seemed semi hostile to her still. "I found his egg on the grounds of the Outer Sect, I can't say anymore than that.

"I wish I had been half so fortunate in my findings during my year," Bo Jun lamented. "I suppose that explains the odd match the two of you make though."

"What do you mean?" Ling Qi asked, glancing at the older boy.

He straightened up a little under her gaze. "Ah, only that your cultivation elements do not match well," he said hastily.

""It is a little unusual," Wang Chao said. "I suppose you had your style laid out before you found him?"

"To an extent," Ling Qi hedged. "Is it really so odd to have a spirit beast which does not match your elements?"

"It is a little unusual," Liang He said carefully from his spot near the table. "Most cultivators choose their beasts to match, or cultivate with a companion who matches their blood, in older clans."

"It might be unusual, but I do not think there is anything wrong with it," the mousy girl who had spoken up before, said. "It does not exactly harm the beast or the cultivator."

"I imagine it can be quite trying though, bonding with a beast which you have so little in common with," Wang Chao mused.

Ling Qi tried to hide her growing frown. "I would not call Zhengui trying. What about you Sir Wang, Going by what you said, your Fensui was always surly, is that not more difficult?"

Wang Chao laughed. "Not at all! Fensui and I get along quite well. Since the day we met on the painted cliffs of mount Lengjin, we have understood each other quite well. We have climbed every peak in the Wang holdings together, and we will see the tops of higher peaks still, before ascension to the Fourth Realm comes and takes the fun out of it."

"Sir Wang is fortunate to be so confident," one of the others muttered.

Ling Qi was silent as the conversation moved on, letting others move in to fill the silence.

There were things Zhengui and she had in common, weren't there?

Wang Chao Bond raised to 1

***​


Later that evening, Ling Qi was silent as she sat astride Zhengui's shell, returning with him to the hill given to him by the Sect. Zhengui was quiet as well.

It was only as they began to mount the steam pitted hilltop that Ling Qi spoke up. "Are you okay Zhengui? I saw that you had a little conflict."

"Hmph, dumb Rockhead did not hurt Gui," he huffed.

"I, Zhen could have beaten him, but since he was sir Avalanche's friend, I was kind," Zhen said irritably.

Ling Qi wasn't entirely sure of that. Fensui was, like his partner, at the fifth step of the third realm. "Why did he confront you anyway?"

"Gui thinks… he said something about the strongest getting first pick of treats?" Gui said. "Gui thinks that is dumb, there was enough for everyone."

"Greedy Rockhead," Zhen grumbled.

Ling Qi sighed as she leaped down from Zhengui's shell, having reached the top of the hill. "I'm sorry that you didn't get a chance to meet anyone nice."

"Um, Little Singer was nice," Gui said, pawing the ground, "But I did not talk to her much."

Ling Qi frowned, "Ah, that sparrow, right?"

"Yes," Zhen agreed. "At least there, I, Zhen was given proper respect."

There conversation fell silent. Ling Qi looked down. She hated this awkwardness, this distance, that had started to grow. Yet she did not know how to check that growth.

"I… don't know if it's really my place to try and untangle this," Sixiang muttered.

"Big Sister, is something wrong?" Zhengui asked.

[] Ask Sixiang for help in articulating your feelings (90% for cheering Zhengui, may fail address core problems)
[] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)

Remember all rolls run off of degrees of success rather than pass/fail.
 
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[] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
For obvious reasons
No use letting this stuff go on
 
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Wang's behavior has dramatically changed, hasn't it? Feels like this is him at his best.

Also, I'm absolutely for continuing the trend of addressing core problems instead of slapping a band-aid over it.
 
[X] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)

No pain no gain.
 
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[X] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
For obvious reasons
No use letting this stuff go on
[] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
Is there a question?

(or a moratorium?)
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[] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)

Soon we will have achieved intra-personal maturity and the world will never even notice all the Heart-demons we have vanquished before they became a bigger problem! :V
 
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Mmm, I'm inclined towards trying ourselves I think. Ultimately, I'm not too fussed about Zhengui's current mood - I think that's transient and will be fixed with time - and the core issues are what's important. More than that though, I think LQ really needs to examine them herself from her perspective as part of her own development, even if she fails. Beyond that, a half success from Sixiang might just cover up things, and send us down the wrong track.
[] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
 
Wang's behavior has dramatically changed, hasn't it? Feels like this is him at his best.
It is. Which just makes it more sad when he drops a worse backhanded insult by accident than most of these fools can manage on purpose:
"And it was certainly a brave thing to volunteer for such a task," Wang Chao said cheerfully. "To often do those who eschew valour wheedle their way to prominence. Despite your background, you are quite the warrior, Miss Ling."
Earth into the Jaws of Heaven Method
 
[] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
 
Sixiang being unsure whether this is something she should be participating in is all the evidence I need to believe it is best if Ling Qi takes this opportunity to try and connect with Zhengui better, rather than merely trying to get him in a good mood.
 
"Gui thinks… he said something about the strongest getting first pick of treats?" Gui said. "Gui thinks that is dumb, there was enough for everyone."

"Greedy Rockhead," Zhen grumbled.
Lol we need to teach Zhengui how to sing an in-universe version of the Soviet March just for the memes


We comrades nao!
 
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[X] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
...
Growth and Renewal versus...What are we again? Avoiding the Cold Darkness of the friendless night?
Zhengui is optimistic, LingQi is Pessimistic, and I think that's the central problem. Ling Qi looks at the world as problems to avoid. ZhenGui sees challenges to be confronted.
But what if you get hurt? Says the caring Ling Qi.
I'll be fine says the brave Zhengui.
Ling wants a wall to hide behind.
Zhengui uses the same wall as a starting point for adventure, I think.
 
Seems like most of those in the sparring group are people who are not that high in the totem pole, if part of it at all. Should mean that Su Ling might not need as much watching over if we introduce her to them.
 
[X] Try to get down to the root of the problem yourself (60% for cheering Zhengui, will address core problems.)
...
Growth and Renewal versus...What are we again? Avoiding the Cold Darkness of the friendless night?
Zhengui is optimistic, LingQi is Pessimistic, and I think that's the central problem. Ling Qi looks at the world as problems to avoid. ZhenGui sees challenges to be confronted.
But what if you get hurt? Says the caring Ling Qi.
I'll be fine says the brave Zhengui.
Ling wants a wall to hide behind.
Zhengui uses the same wall as a starting point for adventure, I think.

Moratorium

Also Ling Qi at least theoretically accepts the idea of going into the cold for adventure. That is one of her insights and arguably the basis for LFWT.

In practice her trauma is getting in the way.
 
"Five at my count," Wang Chao cut in, bulling into the conversation heedlessly. "Even if you were wavering on that last one."

"It was an impressive effort," Ling Qi had to admit, she couldn;t fault him for being eager to see the end of the exercise, after how many times they had reset the field. Still, she wished that she had been able to cultivate the social art, she had intended to work on before this, but with her injury, there just hadn't been enough time.
"And it was certainly a brave thing to volunteer for such a task," Wang Chao said cheerfully. "To often do those who eschew valour wheedle their way to prominence. Despite your background, you are quite the warrior, Miss Ling."

Ling Qi kept her expression neutral as she moved to take a cup of cider from the refreshments table, and the others began to discuss their own experiences with the war effort so far. That was… probably meant as a compliment, Wang Chao was not, as she learned the type to be backhanded, he was just somewhat inconsiderate.
You know... I'm almost inclined to think Wang is lacking a social art, and manages through his temperament. That is to say he makes do by being as straightforward, and unsubtle as an avalanche. :V

Although he might just have a low manipulation, and how presence builds.
"I wish I had been half so fortunate in my findings during my year," Bo Jun lamented. "I suppose that explains the odd match the two of you make though."

"What do you mean?" Ling Qi asked, glancing at the older boy.

He straightened up a little under her gaze. "Ah, only that your cultivation elements do not match well," he said hastily.
What is this the party of those lacking enough meridians to slot in a social art?

Although this might be him considering her attractive, and/or similar to what causes the soldiers to straighten up except due to social status instead of LQ's domain.
 
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Seems like most of those in the sparring group are people who are not that high in the totem pole, if part of it at all. Should mean that Su Ling might not need as much watching over if we introduce her to them.
Problem is they are a bunch of morons. One of them called us a hermit, for crying out loud, nevermind that we went and did the extremely dangerous mission for the Sect like last month.

And then there's Wang, who'd probably try to start a conversation on the many virtues of fox spirits, because he just has such an anti-skill at this stuff.
 
"I think Miss Ling's achievements speak for themselves," said another of the gathered disciples, a mousy girl with dark brown hair and a complexion similar to Ling Qi's.

"It might be unusual, but I do not think there is anything wrong with it," the mousy girl who had spoken up before, said. "It does not exactly harm the beast or the cultivator."
A fellow nomad-blooded looking to hitch her wagon to a rising star that also happens to be nomad-blooded?
 
A few minutes of meditation did much to help her center herself and prepare for interacting with others again. Honestly, the people here were a relatively straightforward lot. A few baronial scions, as well as the children of soldiers and craftsmen, here to raise their families status or deepen connections to the Sect.

It was not exactly a gathering of the politically connected.
Hmm. I'd forgotten the exact composition of Weng Chao's group. Given these comments and that the event started with a long session of brutal sparring against Ling Qi's unfairness I'm regretting not inviting Su Ling along after all. She's more experienced with being around Ling Qi's death fields so this could have been a good opportunity to get her foot in the door where failure wouldn't matter too much (as these are low nobles).

Ah well, hopefully we can find some other way to help Su Ling.
 
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