The sect is filled with nobles that will probably side with their family. On the flipside, there are some clans that will side with the Mu instead on their local lord. Civil war are almost always messy like that though
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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
- Location
- Earth
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
We have formation level C. Which is as good as it gets without a more specific skill. Actually would we have to learn a formation art of some kind?
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Varder
Tired Cultist
- Location
- Hell
The worst thing with introducing her now is that Su Ling doesn't want to be there and she will be unable to hide it from others. It's exactly the problem we had and it will hurt her reputation a lot. People are willing to give Ling Qi a second chance because she's CRX 's retainer, Su Ling will not be so lucky.
Xicree
Murder.Malice.Might
- Location
- United Kingdom
Bear in mind the percentages given in that update weren't referring to the views of the Emerald Sea nobility as a whole, just the Luo and their subordinates.
Wierd that we got those numbers when talking to Cai then.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
[X] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
This wouldn't be a vote if it was just a courtesy invitation that Su Ling will turn down. But she must have a reason for accepting, and refusing to even let her know the option is a bit much.
This wouldn't be a vote if it was just a courtesy invitation that Su Ling will turn down. But she must have a reason for accepting, and refusing to even let her know the option is a bit much.
- Location
- Greece
[X] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
I have not voted until now because the arguments of both sides left me unconvinced. I am still uncertain about what is best here, but in the end I'd rather give her the option to accept.
I have not voted until now because the arguments of both sides left me unconvinced. I am still uncertain about what is best here, but in the end I'd rather give her the option to accept.
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
- Location
- The Void
We got them at the end of the Luo hunting party
- Location
- United Kingdom
The Cai talk after Zhou died involved our change in rep with the Sect proper/Inner Sect.
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
It's the fact he's gotten the idea by reading a series of trashy Xianxia novels that amuses me. Like, incredibly cliche ones, complete with Hidden Masters, secret OP cultivation methods that the MC gets along with ridiculous artefacts, a quirky cast and a romance with a tsundere type.
It amuses me that firstly, these types of novels exist in this world, and secondly that he's using them to inform his expectations.
- Location
- Earth
[X] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
Voting this way for three reasons:
1. Su Ling is going to be the centre of people's attention whether she attends social events or not - all the inner sect disciples are naturally going to be very interested in a student who got promoted mid year, which ordinarily never happens. Attending the training group is social interaction with training wheels on, and when Su Ling is prepared for socialising, rather than people springing it on her.
2. For those who keep an ear out for such things, her reputation will be high given her promotion is for meritorious sect service
3. Becoming a known quantity means that people are less likely to try socially interacting with Su Ling to gauge her, and the act of gauging her is almost certainly going to get her to mark that person as a scheming noble (irrespective of the veracity of that impression), and then her hackles will be raise. Most likely literally given her spirit blood.
Most importantly, while I'm sure we will try and encourage her to come, Ling Qi certainly won't force her, and will accept no for an answer. We even have the insights to allow for that now.
Voting this way for three reasons:
1. Su Ling is going to be the centre of people's attention whether she attends social events or not - all the inner sect disciples are naturally going to be very interested in a student who got promoted mid year, which ordinarily never happens. Attending the training group is social interaction with training wheels on, and when Su Ling is prepared for socialising, rather than people springing it on her.
2. For those who keep an ear out for such things, her reputation will be high given her promotion is for meritorious sect service
3. Becoming a known quantity means that people are less likely to try socially interacting with Su Ling to gauge her, and the act of gauging her is almost certainly going to get her to mark that person as a scheming noble (irrespective of the veracity of that impression), and then her hackles will be raise. Most likely literally given her spirit blood.
Most importantly, while I'm sure we will try and encourage her to come, Ling Qi certainly won't force her, and will accept no for an answer. We even have the insights to allow for that now.
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- They/It
[x] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
- Location
- Greece
5/10 trashy xianxia novel, protagonist not psychopathic enough
. (yes , I know there are a few where the protagonist is not a psychopath, but those tend to be the least trashy ones anyway, so my joke still stands)
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- Staring into the void
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[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Too early, I think.
Too early, I think.
[X] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
I really don't get the argument that it's too early... She can make that decision for herself. Making that decision for her, especially without even letting her know about it, is extremely paternalistic and strikes me as liable to hurt LX's relationship with her in the future.
I really don't get the argument that it's too early... She can make that decision for herself. Making that decision for her, especially without even letting her know about it, is extremely paternalistic and strikes me as liable to hurt LX's relationship with her in the future.
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- Location
- The Space Between
I think a lot of people are voting based around the idea that, as a meta-quest structure, if we vote for Su Ling invitation she'll be coming even if she isn't ready. I'm not certain of that, and I agree that it's paternalistic to not even give the option.
However! I think that it's okay for the vote to be somewhat unclear and for LQ to keep portraying her(our) vote decisions as guarantees until she comes to a better understanding and empathetic understanding of other people's decision making and how you can phrase offers in a way that doesn't sound like an Obligation for the person to indulge in
However! I think that it's okay for the vote to be somewhat unclear and for LQ to keep portraying her(our) vote decisions as guarantees until she comes to a better understanding and empathetic understanding of other people's decision making and how you can phrase offers in a way that doesn't sound like an Obligation for the person to indulge in
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- the internet
The thing is I think due to the quest format of the game, I don't think its like that at all. I think because its a quest, its like this:
Option for Invite= Su Ling attending the training group
Option for No Invite= Su Ling not attending the training group
I don't think Yrs would put this to vote and then just have Su Ling be like no thanks. As questmaster, he gives us options to vote on for what we want to see next. I saw these choices as a way to determine whether or not Su Ling will end up at the training group and I never expected there to be another option. Every time there's been a similar vote involving us looping in a friend on something, the friend has never turned us down. They end up joining every time, even when we know they don't want to.
Its a very meta way of looking at all this. Whoever wants to think of these matters in a strictly in-story way, that's fine. However, truth is we have the power as voters in the quest to make things happen that would not happen otherwise. Like, if we didn't vote for it in Forge, I doubt Ling Qi would've been able to convince Su Ling to come meet the GF group for training. Its very out of character for Su Ling to willingly put up with nobles anymore than she has to. It happened only because we voted for it...
...Does what I'm saying make sense? I don't view these things as paternalistic, its just that as a first time quester, I was under the impression that this was how things worked...
- Location
- Earth
But why not?
We do not control Su Ling.
Of Course she should be able to reject the invitation.
We do not even control Ling Qi completely (Lake Gate!)