Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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It actually suggests the idea that if we married Bao Qian, that might mean marrying into the Bao.
We know that this isn't the case here:
"I am a Bao, it is in the blood," he replied. "But all this aside. I do hope we can work together for our mutual prosperity in the future. Even with the support of the Cai, raising a new house is difficult."

"And that is what I do not understand," Ling Qi replied in frustration. "Many sons or no, you are the scion of a count clan, why put yourself in such a difficult position?"

"Bah, what good is inheritance alone?" He dismissed. "Let my brothers and sisters squabble over my father and mothers great works. I have the blood in my veins and the arts of our archives, my advantages are already vast, I neither want or need anything else. I will make my own fortune and my own great works."
He's working from the assumption that a match with Ling Qi would involve him joining her clan and, therefore, being separated from the inheritance as a Bao. He's fine with that. The challenge of building a new house from nothing excites him.

My guess is that a lot of new houses marry into more established clans for safety and resources, but in our case, CRX's direct sponsorship obviates that as a factor. We don't need to join someone else's house by marriage for the sake of startup resources, plus we have the direct ear of CRX, so we're valuable enough that established clans might reasonably want to join us.
 
Not to mention that the comparative rank of the clans is nit the only concern. If one party is too far down the line of succession or is not that important within the clan and the other comes from a lower rank nobility but is the one holding the title then it makes more sense for the first party to be the one to marry into the family. Now, I don't recall where Bao Quian is placed into the family but I got the impression that he had several older siblings and he was not particularly impressive cultivation wise (as in good but not impressive).
 
The difference with Xuan admirals and Bao is that the Xuan were phrasing it as Ling Qi joining them (that is, an invitation for Ling Qi to go to the Xuan) whereas the Bao is coming to Ling Qi. Obviously the admiral clarified but I suspect.you wouldn't have Renxiang warning the Xuan not to poach if Xuan had asked to visit Ling Qi.

Obviously physical direction/movent need not be a 1 to 1 match as to where the house would go but at that level, people will read into how you phrase an invitation.
 
Speaking of joining our clan, what's the chance that Qingge's old family petitions to join ours?

They would go from a servant clan to a noble baronial one and from having a Viscount as a liege to having a Duchess as one. As a servant clan they are likely weak enough that their current liege would be willing to let them go for the right price.

Naturally this would be a complete mess as Ling Qi would be nominal head but the other Ling clan head would be used to being in charge. They would likely try to control things behind the scenes and have the numbers to have a lot of influence.

Thoughts?
 
Low odds.
As said, baronial clans have a low survival rate, also would piss of whoever the serve, potential egg in the face issues as well might keep leadership from doing anything other that ignoring the whole thing.
 
Speaking of joining our clan, what's the chance that Qingge's old family petitions to join ours?

They would go from a servant clan to a noble baronial one and from having a Viscount as a liege to having a Duchess as one. As a servant clan they are likely weak enough that their current liege would be willing to let them go for the right price.

Naturally this would be a complete mess as Ling Qi would be nominal head but the other Ling clan head would be used to being in charge. They would likely try to control things behind the scenes and have the numbers to have a lot of influence.

Thoughts?
Considering they expunged Qingge from their clan's records that is decidedly unlikely
 
Low odds.
As said, baronial clans have a low survival rate, also would piss of whoever the serve, potential egg in the face issues as well might keep leadership from doing anything other that ignoring the whole thing.
Us hitting white doesn't guarantee that any of our children will make it past green, and grandchildren are even more ambiguous.
 
Speaking of joining our clan, what's the chance that Qingge's old family petitions to join ours?

They would go from a servant clan to a noble baronial one and from having a Viscount as a liege to having a Duchess as one. As a servant clan they are likely weak enough that their current liege would be willing to let them go for the right price.

Naturally this would be a complete mess as Ling Qi would be nominal head but the other Ling clan head would be used to being in charge. They would likely try to control things behind the scenes and have the numbers to have a lot of influence.

Thoughts?
I doubt they will come to us, but I suspect that if we showed up looking angry they would likely bow down and beg to join.
 
I doubt they will come to us, but I suspect that if we showed up looking angry they would likely bow down and beg to join.
Why the hell would we want them though? We've got our mom's old friends already, and when we need some cultivators I'm sure Gan Guangli can point some of his subordinates from the outer sect our way. We don't need distant relatives that disowned mom.
 
Why the hell would we want them though? We've got our mom's old friends already, and when we need some cultivators I'm sure Gan Guangli can point some of his subordinates from the outer sect our way. We don't need distant relatives that disowned mom.
We don't. I am saying that if we go there thinking about getting some payback they are going to fall over them selves to try and stop that from happening and that seems like the only thing that has any chance for them.
 
Why the hell would we want them though? We've got our mom's old friends already, and when we need some cultivators I'm sure Gan Guangli can point some of his subordinates from the outer sect our way. We don't need distant relatives that disowned mom.

I'm not sure why we'd do it but I wouldn't be surprised if we, indirectly or directly, pushed Qingge into trying to reconnect. She's going to be sitting in the middle of a defensive, family-aspected domain for long periods of time as soon as we get to Cyan and become able to be in multiple places at the same time. That's likely going to make her feel both nostalgic and safe.

And we value family a great deal, if they came to Ling Qi and asked to join us I'm not sure she would be able to say no. It would probably be better for us if they didn't, which is why I think it might be interesting if they did.
 
Success has a way of jogging people's memories. I would be more surprised if they didn't quietly drop the whole "banished from the clan" thing if we became a Viscount. For a Cyan Baron would be more marginal, but that would still be a big deal.

For a Green? Yeah, that's a big risk for very little.
It's a real hard ask to excommunicate somebody then try to join up with them when the winds start blowing their way.


I'm not sure why we'd do it but I wouldn't be surprised if we, indirectly or directly, pushed Qingge into trying to reconnect. She's going to be sitting in the middle of a defensive, family-aspected domain for long periods of time as soon as we get to Cyan and become able to be in multiple places at the same time. That's likely going to make her feel both nostalgic and safe.

And we value family a great deal, if they came to Ling Qi and asked to join us I'm not sure she would be able to say no. It would probably be better for us if they didn't, which is why I think it might be interesting if they did.

I would suggest you reread the scene where Qingge first gets to the Sect. It's up in the air if Ling Qi wants to go on a killing spree at some point but she aint gonna look to do any favors for the people who drove her mother into prostitution and poverty. They're not family, they are the ones who destroyed her families lives
 
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We don't. I am saying that if we go there thinking about getting some payback they are going to fall over them selves to try and stop that from happening and that seems like the only thing that has any chance for them.
As badass as we are, we're just one person. If we start bullying a servitor clan to a viscount clan, the viscount's gonna be mad. Viscount means Indigo, so that's someone significantly more powerful than we'll be for decades. Assuming that the viscount doesn't want to risk feuding with us directly, though, the viscount complains to the count, who complains to Shenhua, who says to CRX "Why is your retainer meddling in the internal affairs of a viscount?"

Possibly she says this by shooting lasers out of her eyes. Shenhua is a very direct sort of communicator.
It's a real hard ask to excommunicate somebody then try to join up with them when the winds start blowing their way.
Especially since if they say "fuck off" now you have to deal with the fact that your current liege is probably not super happy about your attempt to quit their service.
 
[X] Find a way to broach the subject, and figure out what he wants. You don't want him to misinterpret things.

Go for the throat Ling Qi!!!! For the Throat!
 
Why are we looking to do something that may potentially cause us more problems, not to mention involving people Ling Qi likely does not care about?
 
Why are we looking to do something that may potentially cause us more problems, not to mention involving people Ling Qi likely does not care about?

My first post was basically "Hey it sure would cause all sorts of problems for us and be a complete mess if Qingge's old family tried to join our clan. How likely is that to happen?"

This is about a potential challenge that Ling Qi might not be well equipped to deal with, not a desirable outcome.
 
My first post was basically "Hey it sure would cause all sorts of problems for us and be a complete mess if Qingge's old family tried to join our clan. How likely is that to happen?"

This is about a potential challenge that Ling Qi might not be well equipped to deal with, not a desirable outcome.
The only way this might possibly happen is if a near-Ogodei level incursion happens and Tongou gets destroyed. In that case we might see some survivors who have literally nowhere else to go head our way. Aside from that, its not happening.
 
I have been thinking that there is a possibility that sometime after the sect, CRX and Ling Qi could be sent to tonghou in order to weed out the rampant corruption in place there (as shown in the exorcist side story).
 
I have been thinking that there is a possibility that sometime after the sect, CRX and Ling Qi could be sent to tonghou in order to weed out the rampant corruption in place there (as shown in the exorcist side story).

Cai wouldnt do that, for one there is a clan in charge that has Cyans+ members i believe, for another its in diao territory and tonghou is under Diaos authority.
 
But why would we bother going there? If we never see Tongou again it will be too soon. They aren't worth our time.
I have been thinking that there is a possibility that sometime after the sect, CRX and Ling Qi could be sent to tonghou in order to weed out the rampant corruption in place there (as shown in the exorcist side story).

What would be really really fun as a story possibility is Ling Qi getting Tounghou once she gets the appropriate cultivation level due to the clan already owning it doing/having done something stupid and destroying itself in the corruption purges.

I understand that this is unlikely for seventeen different reasons, chief among them that Tounghou is Diao territory, but it would be really really fun to read about nontheless.
 
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