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The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)

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Alucard Vampiry said:
Coming back to the gene flaws of The Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves, the only official gene-flaw that I remember was that sometimes a marine could end up with Horus face, as in the case of Horus Aximand. Which has all sort of issues if we make a chapter using Horus gene-seed.
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I think that is not uncommon, Ultramarines get traits of Gulliman, be it his eyes, facial structure or hair. It is rare not to look like him. I think with Horus it was that very few actually had his face.
 
undead frog said:
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I am somehow not surprised that Florida managed to survive past the Age of Strife and with no changes at that /s
Gabriel_TFA said:
I think that is not uncommon, Ultramarines get traits of Gulliman, be it his eyes, facial structure or hair. It is rare not to look like him. I think with Horus it was that very few actually had his face.
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I mean yeah, the Ultramarines and Blood Angels gain facial traits of their Primarch, but with the case of Aximand, his face looked exactly the same as Horus. Sure it could be a rare condition, and on the mutation scale it is not that bad, the problem lies with who they resemble.
 
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Alucard Vampiry said:
Sure it could be a rare condition, and on the mutation scale it is not that bad, the problem lies with who they resemble.
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I would not be surprised if they barge into Archmagos Grimm sanctum and demand answers for that. And I think Grimm even slightly knew about Horus, he would maybe said that they should be better than Horus and not fall for Chaos like he did.

Actually, if we put them in Emperor's Landing...and gave them spear training...
 
Weaving_Dreamer said:
Though I have to ask, why were we thinking of putting Siege Experts in defending the Solar segmentum instead of other gene lines?
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Alucard Vampiry said:
The Iron Warriors are just as good at creating defense fortresses as they are sieging them. Just ask Dorn and the Imperial Firsts.
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Also, just because they have natural specialization towards one thing, doesn't mean it's the only thing they can do. Succesor Chapters can differ greatly from their Legion's.

Black Dragons are Succesor Chapter of Salamanders, yet they have unique mutation not found in The Salamanders themselves with their bone protrusions.

Another example are Dark Krakens who were created by Crawl, and who completely assimilated the hunter-gatherer culture of their homeworld, to the point it influences their combat style and specialize in seeking the largest foes-in size or numbers-on battlefield. You wouldn't see many smiths or fire lovers in this Chapter.

Usually, The Marines will resemble their Primarch, either in body, personality or both but this isn't by any means some hard rule, and of course in case of personality, we need to remember, that's often the Chapter culture that affects the recruits not geneseed. Primarchs themselves were shaped by their homeworlds just like normal Humans. Angron became what he was, not because he was murderous monster from the start, but because of the nails and tyranny of his planet, even becoming Daemon Prince wasn't his decision but that of Lorgar who didn't want to see him die and begged Khorne to save him, when he was dying after one of the bigger battles of Heresy.

We talked about how Word Bearers were responsible for spreading Imperial Truth...Well, we all know what happened when Lorgar was found, atheism/antitheism wasn't genetically embedded into Lorgar worldview.

And also geneseed, due to all the supernatural bullshit that exists in 40k, can be permanently changed from what it was. Sanguinius was a potent psyker, and when he was dying, every Blood Angel felt his death and to this day, their very flesh is saturated with it, including the geneseed. That's what Black Rage is, it didn't exist before Sanguinius died, yet every Blood Angel and their succesor Chapter have it.

Also, I'm pretty sure, the whole plan with Iron Warriors defending Terra was the irony of giving their succesor's this job, because Fuck Dorn, that's why, Grimm needs Primarch tears to drink every morning.
 
Oh yeah, it will suck when one of Iron Warrior Chapters will have a flaw of Perturabo aka. seeing Eye of Terror constantly!
 
[X] Plan: Tears of Dorn.
-[X] The Iron Warriors: The biggest flaw within the Gene-Seed of the traitor Perturabo is that it induces intense paranoia, though nowhere near the bitterness and misanthropy their father posessed even when he was yet loyal. That said, the fact that it also gifts enhanced intelligence, problem-solving abilities, and is compatible with a wider range of aspirants than the majority of other legions can more than make up for that initial flaw if leveraged in the right way. Prior to their betrayal, the Iron Warriors were the greatest masters of Siege Warfare in the entirety of the Imperium, and though this won them little glory, it was a specialisation as worthy as any other.
--[X] Legendary Gene-Seed
--[X] Adaptive Gene-Seed
--[X] Potent Gene-Seed
-[X] Jujuarn: A death world with a variety of biomes, on the planet of Jujuarn is notable because its wildlife population is for some reason composed almost entirely of invasive species. Ambulls, Orkoids, Grox, Land Sharks, Haemovores, Carnosaurs, Rad-wolves, Catachan Devils and even the Salamanders or Nocturn have all somehow managed to establish breeding populations on the planet and thrive. (Segmentum Solar)

The planet has Orkoids-and therefore probably some Primitive Orks-on top of all other species that would be perfect for Astartes training. Also, The Beast is near, so the training on any Orkoids would be useful.

Also, Grimm really needs those tears, he didn't drink for several millenia.
 
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[X] Plan: Hektor
-[X] The Iron Warriors: The biggest flaw within the Gene-Seed of the traitor Perturabo is that it induces intense paranoia, though nowhere near the bitterness and misanthropy their father posessed even when he was yet loyal. That said, the fact that it also gifts enhanced intelligence, problem-solving abilities, and is compatible with a wider range of aspirants than the majority of other legions can more than make up for that initial flaw if leveraged in the right way. Prior to their betrayal, the Iron Warriors were the greatest masters of Siege Warfare in the entirety of the Imperium, and though this won them little glory, it was a specialisation as worthy as any other.
--[X] Legendary Gene-Seed
--[X] Adaptive Gene-Seed
--[X] Potent Gene-Seed
-[X] Truy II: A death world sharing a system with the fortress world of Truy I, both of the worlds in the system are under constant attacks from Ork empire of Greeeze that resides only a short distance away. Naturally, the fortress world of Truy I tends to hold up better given it's defenses are among the very best in the Imperium. (Segmentum Solar).
 
[X] Plan: Tears of Dorn.
-[X] The Iron Warriors: The biggest flaw within the Gene-Seed of the traitor Perturabo is that it induces intense paranoia, though nowhere near the bitterness and misanthropy their father posessed even when he was yet loyal. That said, the fact that it also gifts enhanced intelligence, problem-solving abilities, and is compatible with a wider range of aspirants than the majority of other legions can more than make up for that initial flaw if leveraged in the right way. Prior to their betrayal, the Iron Warriors were the greatest masters of Siege Warfare in the entirety of the Imperium, and though this won them little glory, it was a specialisation as worthy as any other.
-[X] Jujuarn: A death world with a variety of biomes, on the planet of Jujuarn is notable because its wildlife population is for some reason composed almost entirely of invasive species. Ambulls, Orkoids, Grox, Land Sharks, Haemovores, Carnosaurs, Rad-wolves, Catachan Devils and even the Salamanders or Nocturn have all somehow managed to establish breeding populations on the planet and thrive. (Segmentum Solar)
 
[X] Plan: Speculatores
-[X] The Dark Angels: The Dark Angels, sons of Lion El Johnson, much like the Ultramarines have a very stable and mutation free Gene-Seed. They have access to a great deal of highly advanced technology gifted to them by the Emperor, and have formed several of their Companies into heirs of their previous elite forces such as the Deathwing. However, the Dark Angels have also been acting very erratic of late, and are stubbornly insistent about forming 'relations' with their founding chapters regarding matters they refuse to speak of, even to other Astartes. A great number of officials within the Imperium are growing very concerned about this, but with the death of the First Legion's Primarch, it seems unlikely anyone could force them to reveal the reason for their behaviour.
-[X] Fleet Based: The Chapter is fleet based and will be constantly on the move, but as a result will lack a proper home unless it decides to claim a world for its own in the future.
--[X] Legendary Gene-Seed
--[X] Potent Gene-Seed


[X] Plan: Tears of Dorn.
 
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