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In other news.... have a small bit of my notes for one of the Black Rage traits unlocked by Legendary Gene-Seed.

"SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKER I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH! SHOOOOOCKER!"

Not an actual quote I'd be using, ots more for me to get the 'feel' of the trait and found it funny enough to share.
 
undead frog said:
In other news.... have a small bit of my notes for one of the Black Rage traits unlocked by Legendary Gene-Seed.

"SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKER I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH! SHOOOOOCKER!"

Not an actual quote I'd be using, ots more for me to get the 'feel' of the trait and found it funny enough to share.
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Funny enough there is a fan comic that does something exactly like this comic here.
 
[ ] Plan: Fight the Edgelord
-[ ] Name: Wings of Victory
-[ ] Colors: White with Red Trim and Gold Marking
-[ ] Chapter Symbol: Two wings crossing each other one white and the other soaked in blood
-[ ] Chapter Creed: "Our father is never truly gone. He is with each of us, his Wings carry us to victory, and chaos will forever fear those wings!"
--[ ] Battle Cry: "In the name of Sanguinius!"
Normal Training Options
[ ] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.

[ ] Marksmen: Even among Space Marines the marksmanship of the Chapter is top of the line.

[ ] Apothecaries: This chapter has extra Apothecaries among its ranks.

Normal Equipment Options
[ ] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has a great number of Assault Packs, letting them retain a greater number of Assault Marines in each Company.

[ ] Specialist Ammo: The Chapter has a ready source of specialized bolter rounds, letting them bring the best possible ammunition for any engagement.
 
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undead frog said:
In other news.... have a small bit of my notes for one of the Black Rage traits unlocked by Legendary Gene-Seed.

"SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKER I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH! SHOOOOOCKER!"

Not an actual quote I'd be using, ots more for me to get the 'feel' of the trait and found it funny enough to share.
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Sorry about the double post but this came up a number of times Is there anything a larger number of apothecaries can do to mitigate the effects of the red thirst?
 
Given the whole blood association, using spears could be interesting. Either in the Longinus/Holy Grail or Vlad the Impaler direction, unfortunately, but that's the Red Thirst for you.
 
RXIV said:
Given the whole blood association, using spears could be interesting. Either in the Longinus/Holy Grail or Vlad the Impaler direction, unfortunately, but that's the Red Thirst for you.
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We got a melee weapon trait already any melee weapon training it that isn't doubling down is legit a waste. Because a bigger skill level in one type is waaaay more valuable then diversity in melee skill.
 
Increased Lifespan? I though Astartes where ageless? Commander Dante looks old because he stopped feeding the Red Thirst. But I don't remember any instances of actually dying of old age.


[ ] Plan: Fight the Edgelord
-[ ] Name: Wings of Victory
-[ ] Colors: White with Red Trim and Gold Marking
-[ ] Chapter Symbol: Two wings crossing each other one white and the other soaked in blood
-[ ] Chapter Creed: "Our father is never truly gone. He is with each of us, his Wings carry us to victory, and chaos will forever fear those wings!"
--[ ] Battle Cry: "In the name of Sanguinius!"
-[ ] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.
-[ ] Marksmen: Even among Space Marines the marksmanship of the Chapter is top of the line.
-[ ] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks. (For bonus point all the Chaplains are the Marines with Wings, AND Sanguinius's Chrisma)
-[ ] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has a great number of Assault Packs, letting them retain a greater number of Assault Marines in each Company.
-[ ] Specialist Ammo: The Chapter has a ready source of specialized bolter rounds, letting them bring the best possible ammunition for any engagement.
 
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[ ] Plan Inheritors of Sanguinius
-[ ] Chapter Name: Angels of Oblivion
-[ ] Chapter Colors: Gold with Blood Red trim, Black helmet and Gauntlets
-[ ] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Eagle on white crying red tears
-[ ] Chapter Creed: "Keep our Father's memory alive brothers, We have his Wings, We have his Fury!"
--[ ] Battle Cry: "We Bring the Wrath of Sanguinius!"
---[ ] Battle Cry when fighting the Black Legion: "RIP AND TEAR!!"

2 Charges of Extra Trainers
1 Charge of More Equipment
1 Charge of More Terminators

Normal Training Options

[ ] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.

[ ] Marksmen: Even among Space Marines the marksmanship of the Chapter is top of the line.

[ ] Apothecaries: This chapter has extra Apothecaries among its ranks.

Normal Equipment Options
[ ] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has a great number of Assault Packs, letting them retain a greater number of Assault Marines in each Company.

[ ] Heavy Weaponry: The Chapter is well supplied with heavy weaponry, and can field a larger proportion of Devastator squads.


Authors Note: Doubling down on the Blade and gun mastery, Apothecaries to help with combating the Red Thirst, Assault Pack so every marine can fly and Heavy weapons to cause even more destruction. Let me Know if you guys have any change suggestions
 
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LysanderArgent said:
Increased Lifespan? I though Astartes where ageless? Commander Dante looks old because he stopped feeding the Red Thirst. But I don't remember any instances of actually dying of old age.
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When not in a Dreadnought space marines can still die of old age before Dante the oldest space marine the live that was not in a dreadnought was this one Black Templar who died of Old Age he lived to around 2,000, and normal space marines are still affected by age, when sigismund fought abaddon he lost both due to abaddons plot armor and because he was old.
 
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If the wings are genetically identical to Sanguinius', does it mean they can be used to make Geneseed?
 
RedWake said:
When not in a Dreadnought space marines can still die of old age before Dante the oldest space marine the live that was not in a dreadnought was this one Black Templar who died of Old Age he lived to around 2,000
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So I've been researching it a bit and getting conflicting sources. As in I'm getting some sources explicitly say one or the other. But most of the ones that claim they can die of aging are older. I'm assuming we are dealing with a retcon or just plain conflicting canon. Dan Abnett and Graham McNeill both make the claim that Space Marines are immortal (in terms of age). And I trust them.
 
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RedWake said:
[ ] Plan Inheritors of Sanguinius
-[ ] Chapter Name: Angels of Oblivion
-[ ] Chapter Colors: Gold with Blood Red trim, Black helmet and Gauntlets
-[ ] Chapter Symbol: A Golden Eagle on white crying red tears
-[ ] Chapter Creed: "Keep our Father's memory alive brothers, We have his Wings, We have his Fury!"
--[ ] Battle Cry: "We Bring the Wrath of Sanguinius!"
---[ ] Battle Cry when fighting the Black Legion: "RIP AND TEAR!!"

2 Charges of Extra Trainers
1 Charge of More Equipment
1 Charge of More Terminators

Normal Training Options

[ ] Blademasters: The Chapter's Marines have honed their skills with the blade, and are among the finest swordsmen in the Imperium.

[ ] Marksmen: Even among Space Marines the marksmanship of the Chapter is top of the line.

[ ] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.

Normal Equipment Options
[ ] Extra Assault Packs: The Chapter has a great number of Assault Packs, letting them retain a greater number of Assault Marines in each Company.

[ ] Heavy Weaponry: The Chapter is well supplied with heavy weaponry, and can field a larger proportion of Devastator squads.


Authors Note: Doubling down on the Blade and gun mastery, Chaplains to help with combating the Red Thirst, Assault Pack so every marine can fly and Heavy weapons to cause even more destruction. Let me Know if you guys have any change suggestions
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Doubling out assult marines and devastator squads makes me worried we will have too few tactical marines.
 
@undead frog So Blood Angels and its successor chapters have Sanguinary Priest's as apothecaries and they focus on the Red Thirst while the Chaplains focus on the Black Rage. But both work together closely.

Given that fact I'd think we'd need to take apothecaries. But...

[ ] Apothecaries: This chapter has extra Apothecaries among its ranks.

[ ] Chaplains: The Chapter is blessed with more Chaplains than average among its numbers, and higher quality as well. Treachery and corruption will find it far harder to grow within their ranks.

Apothecaries traing just gives us more Apothecaries, while Chaplains training gives us more Chaplains and better quality Chaplains.

So I guess I'm asking if we take apothecaries training does it give us better apothecaries like the chaplains training?

And/or does taking Chaplains affect our Apothecaries due to the fact that they share responsibilities at looking at the flaws in the geneseed?
 
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LysanderArgent said:
@undead frog So Blood Angels and its successor chapters have Sanguinary Priest's as apothecaries and they focus on the Red Thirst while the Chaplains focus on the Black Rage. But both work together closely.

Given that fact I'd think we'd need to take apothecaries. But...
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Agreed the lore and the quest say two different things. Black Rage isn't much of the problem, so if were using canon lore we should focus on apothecaries to deal with the Red Thirst. But this isn't canon so we need a ruling on how docs and priests deal with Blood angel bullshit in this quest before we can finish our plans undead. For who were playing as this level of ignorance shouldn't be possible.
 
lancelot said:
Agreed the lore and the quest say two different things. Black Rage isn't much of the problem, so if were using canon lore we should focus on apothecaries to deal with the Red Thirst. But this isn't canon so we need a ruling on how docs and priests deal with Blood angel bullshit in this quest before we can finish our plans undead. For who were playing as this level of ignorance shouldn't be possible.
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Fair point.

Yes more Apothicaries will likley indeed provide help on that front.

Weather it's worth the opportunity cost is up to you guys.
 
I to prefer refrain from making judgements on your choices before rolling/applying bonuses unless its something that would have ruined you from a mechanical standpoint like when I forgot to bring up the Ultramarines original mechanic.

The closest I'll (Well closest I'll try to anyway, mistakes happen after all) get is pointing out the occasional oddball combo/trait like how Word Bearers have the unique ideology spread mechanic.
 
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