Lads while I would like to note your dicussion is certainly thought provoking, it uh, doesn't do much if you don't actually put forward options or vote.
The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
Luminous
God Save The Queen
- Location
- Victoria, BC, Canada
Considering that the Boltons have been primarily the ones maintaining the upkeep of the road, I'm inclined to say that tools are perfectly within their right to place.
[X] [First] Side with House Whitehill, Keep the Tolls in place.
If a man can'thokd his drink, he shouldn't partake.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall
As much as I'm not enthusiastic about it, I imagine they have brothers or cousins they can rely on to help the family.
[X] [Third] Give him the choice; the hand, or the wall.
[X] [First] Side with House Whitehill, Keep the Tolls in place.
If a man can'thokd his drink, he shouldn't partake.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall
As much as I'm not enthusiastic about it, I imagine they have brothers or cousins they can rely on to help the family.
[X] [Third] Give him the choice; the hand, or the wall.
Rhaenyra "Muscles like Alicent's dreams" Targaryen? Fuck, each hit would probably feel like getting kicked by a horse.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Rhaenyra has a vague idea of what a toll between two different vassals in the crownlands would be, she doesn't really know what it would look like between vassals of vassals within one of the Kingdoms. Rhaenyra is not particularly strong when it comes to law right now.
If he's sent to the Wall, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that the woman will just remarry (since I'm pretty sure the Night's Watch oath breaks up the marriage) to some new man who can take up working the farm?
- Location
- Europe
I think getting further information and having a conversation with other voters before making write-ins is a good idea but maybe I'm just being crazy and don't know how to win at democracy.
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- Location
- Germany
Yeah and that's the most likely outcome. With winter lasting years, she is pretty likely to find a second or third son who would be quite happy to marry a de-facto widow and take over the farm.
See everyone, just trust in THE LAW and everything will sort itself out!
[X] [First] Compromise: With no document proving if the road can be tolled or not, you find it reasonable that House Whitehill does so. However, you also find it reasonable that House Forrester is receiving recompense for the actions of the Whitehill armsman. House Whitehill will have to pay for the reconstruction of the dam.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
The road is on Whitehill lands, so they very probably can toll it. But the sabotage was also done by a Whitehill man, so they will pay for the reconstruction. Seems like the most reasonable option.
The other two, dura lex, sed lex.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
The road is on Whitehill lands, so they very probably can toll it. But the sabotage was also done by a Whitehill man, so they will pay for the reconstruction. Seems like the most reasonable option.
The other two, dura lex, sed lex.
- Location
- Australia
The North is gigantic yes, but deer need to walk to get places (or be walked after being killed) so its less the total over all, and more the deer numbers near Wintertown. and it is a issue with poaching that any given act of poaching is more or less OK, but if it is let to happen then it will happen as poaching is close to free money in this time. unless you think that the Stark's are under hunting of course then it really is no issue.
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Imperious
Without the sun of my life
[X] [First] Side with the Whitehills and keep the tolls in place. Make it clear to the court that by torturing the sabotager to death the Forresters denied the court the ability to assess his testimony, thus both foiling the court's ability to examine potentially valuable evidence as well as leaving the foresters with no evidence to their claims, forcing you to rule against them.
Don't torture critical witnesses to death so that they don't get to testify before court yo.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall. However claim that you will provide his daughter and wife with an appropriately sized stipend out of your own pocket to ensure they do not go hungry in the absence of his labor. Make sure that the stipend is not so large as to give the impression of rewarding poaching despite the harsh punishment set on the man himself.
@teenspirit approved?
Don't torture critical witnesses to death so that they don't get to testify before court yo.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall. However claim that you will provide his daughter and wife with an appropriately sized stipend out of your own pocket to ensure they do not go hungry in the absence of his labor. Make sure that the stipend is not so large as to give the impression of rewarding poaching despite the harsh punishment set on the man himself.
@teenspirit approved?
[X] [First] Compromise: With no document proving if the road can be tolled or not, you find it reasonable that House Whitehill does so. However, you also find it reasonable that House Forrester is receiving recompense for the actions of the Whitehill armsman. House Whitehill will have to pay for the reconstruction of the dam.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
- Location
- Australia
this is a good point.
[X] [First] Side with the Whitehills and keep the tolls in place. Make it clear to the court that by torturing the sabotager to death the Forresters denied the court the ability to assess his testimony, thus both foiling the court's ability to examine potentially valuable evidence as well as leaving the foresters with no evidence to their claims, forcing you to rule against them.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
Wow, I really like that one. We're gathering a few good mottoes for Legalist!Rhaenyra, first my own, scandinavian "Realm shall with Law be built" ("...and not by lawlessness be laid to waste" is the full one) and now this.
Exciting!
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Specifically noble men. Not peasants whose crops have been rotting due to blight. For all we know the procedure for peasants who can't toil their farms due to not having the labor for it is starvation. Wouldn't be the first.
- Location
- Europe
Alright, thanks for the info. Would the following write-in be allowed?
[] [First] Write-in: House Whitehill as a vassal of House Bolton is allowed to levy tolls on the road given their previous maintenance work and the lack of documentation provided by House Forrester. However, the levy must be set at a reasonable level that is comparable to other road tolls levied in the North. House Whitehill is responsible for the actions of its armsmen and must provide recompense to House Forrester. The recompense shall be set at half the cost of repairing the dam. Any further actions against the dam or similar infrastructure by House Whitehill or servants of House Whitehill will face significantly more harsh punishments as decided on by House Stark.
Yes, House Stark and any noble house in this era, particularly in the North, is under hunting. I thought that was obvious in my post. The nobles use hunting as a hobby when they get bored, not as a means to acquire food.
Rat King
Izutsumi-pilled
[X] [First] Compromise: With no document proving if the road can be tolled or not, you find it reasonable that House Whitehill does so. However, you also find it reasonable that House Forrester is receiving recompense for the actions of the Whitehill armsman. House Whitehill will have to pay for the reconstruction of the dam.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
- Location
- Up ya bum!
[X] [First] Write-in: House Whitehill as a vassal of House Bolton is allowed to levy tolls on the road given their previous maintenance work and the lack of documentation provided by House Forrester. However, the levy must be set at a reasonable level that is comparable to other road tolls levied in the North. House Whitehill is responsible for the actions of its armsmen and must provide recompense to House Forrester. The recompense shall be set at half the cost of repairing the dam. Any further actions against the dam or similar infrastructure by House Whitehill or servants of House Whitehill will face significantly more harsh punishments as decided on by House Stark
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Give him the choice; the hand, or the wall.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Give him the choice; the hand, or the wall.
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- Pronouns
- He/Him
Sure but keep in mind the gold is not on you so it will be months before they see any of it.
Sure.
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[X] [First] Compromise: With no document proving if the road can be tolled or not, you find it reasonable that House Whitehill does so. However, you also find it reasonable that House Forrester is receiving recompense for the actions of the Whitehill armsman. House Whitehill will have to pay for the reconstruction of the dam.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
I thought the gold from our tourney winnings was literally on us?
- Location
- Europe
[X] [First] Write-in: House Whitehill as a vassal of House Bolton is allowed to levy tolls on the road given their previous maintenance work and the lack of documentation provided by House Forrester. However, the levy must be set at a reasonable level that is comparable to other road tolls levied in the North. House Whitehill is responsible for the actions of its armsmen and must provide recompense to House Forrester. The recompense shall be set at half the cost of repairing the dam. Any further actions against the dam or similar infrastructure by House Whitehill or servants of House Whitehill will face significantly more harsh punishments as decided on by House Stark.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
Still unsure about the third one. If someone has a better option I'm all ears.
[X] [Second] Send him to the Wall for inciting the fight and have a wergild paid to the families of the dead from his possessions.
[X] [Third] Send him to the Wall
Still unsure about the third one. If someone has a better option I'm all ears.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It's too much gold to carry on dragonback. It's with the rest of the progress. I even noted that in one of the turn options.
