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As Above, So Below
As Above, So Below

You had your own expectations for the dive. An imagining of of the sights and sounds you would witness and an anticipation of the emotions you'd expected to feel. And yet, you'd honestly forgotten just how loud and jarring Iron Tiger engines could be. The secondhand vibrations themselves disturbing the once-peaceful layer of dirt and silt that had settled onto the cavern floor.

Despite it all, your surroundings do not disappoint.

The cavernous, natural chamber you find yourself in is just large enough that the lights cannot pierced through them to reveal the solid walls you know to be there. If anything, the roiling clouds of disturbed particulate matter only serve to enhance the murky gloom, and your imagination tries to fill in the unseen with hidden dangers or unknown lifeforms just waiting out of sight. It is this irrational spike of primordial fear that drives you to check the newly installed gauges and meters, making sure that the modified seals hold and pressure remains within acceptable margins.

Reassured of the cockpit's structural integrity, and your safety, you squint behind the small porthole in front of you and into darkness ahead as your limbs find the controls. Slowly, the mecha rumbles forward. Slowly. Surely.

Even without looking at the map attached to the left of your console, you remember clearly the small circuitous route you need to take. A short jog around the cavern, to test maneuverability and control responsiveness in such an environment wholly different from dry land. Your short dive is the first manned test, the first of many more, should results prove positive. To ensure your safety should things go wrong, you'd even been equipped with diving gear and enough oxygen to get you to the surface with time to spare.

You had taken no more than 3 careful steps when you hear a muffled series of prolonged cracks echo through the small space in the cockpit.

Water is a good conductor of sound. The researchers and engineers who accompanied you to this dive, and who'd been responsible for initiating this series of tests had touted it as a feature they thought would be quite useful in an aquatically submerged environment. It would, they say, help somewhat with environmental awareness.

You also remembered that the cavern they'd chosen had been a slapdash affair of a mining expedition. Rushed to quickly exploit what few precious metals Guangchou had to offer, in a time when the world found itself aflame amidst a second great war. A mining mission done so carelessly, with no proper surveying beyond finding out if there was a deposit worth mining. And as such, the expedition had been unaware of how close said deposit was to an underground lake; one that could be… unleashed, if one dug deep enough. And they did.

It is also worth noting that the very special alloy the Iron Tigers were currently using for their hull and armor could also transmit sound quite easily.

As such, you were… environmentally aware… of the skeletal remains of drowned miners and staff as what little remained of their bones cracked and crumbled to join the dust swirling around you.

Deciding it would be better to concentrate on your mission, not least of which was for the sake of your mental well-being, you carefully monitor your console's various meters and data while paying attention for any signs of leaks of liquids or gases that the engineers had advised you to watch out for. Needless to say, you also made sure to mind your pathing. It was definitely a desire to conserve as much fuel and time as possible that you made sure to find the most efficient circular route possible.

Definitely not because you wanted to get our of there fast.

As you reached the general area of your starting point, you waste no time flicking the switch to the prototype signal transmitter built into the cockpit. With the envisioned environmental parameters as they were, it was decided that testing more powerful, and compact, communications equipment that could reach as deeply as possible underwater was required. Upon failure, a flare could instead be deployed from a modified rocket launcher attached to the Iron Tiger's structure.

As you wait for recovery, you can't help but look back into the dark gloom. The earlier spike of dread had slowly been replaced but a slowly suffusing melancholy, a feeling of sadness for the nameless souls that had met their demise down here in the dark. You had heard of the glorious tales of those who had fought and sacrificed their lives during the last great war. In fact, these series of tests had been done in preparation of presenting a proposal for a specialized variant, or at least modification, of the Iron Tiger frame specifically for retrieving the nation's lost naval vessels.

You can't help but imagine what would be found then. Fallen sailors still manning their stations. Lost souls in their final moments as the sea rose to claim them. Or perhaps discarded clothes and accessories lying about with their owners long gone due to the passage of time or the predations of aquatic flora and fauna. And yet those souls would be remembered. Speeches would be given in their honor. Monuments and edifices raised bearing their deeds and names.

But not these poor souls.

Soon enough, the recovery team arrives, accompanying the harness of hooks and winch designed to pull up the Iron Tiger. With a quick, practiced ease, you feel the mecha rising through the water, the team holding onto external grips on the IT frame. You had been concerned with the mecha's weight and whether a crane compact enough to fit into caverns could pull it up, but the engineers assured you that the crane and winch itself were modified from a mix of laufpanzer and Iron Tiger components. The crane arm itself was made largely from the Iron Tiger's leg assembly.

Eventually, you begin to see light beyond the porthole, signaling that you were nearing the surface. Despite that, you find your thoughts wandering back down to the depths. Briefly, while doing your circuit, you'd considered asking to switch with one of the backup pilots, unwilling to do any more dives. You find, however, that your reluctance had passed along with the brief bout of fear.

So much has changed in just a few decades. Suffering had slowly given way to prosperity and bounty. Many of the Great Leader's promises had been fulfilled, and more was yet to come. Despite that, there was still much uncertainty yet, for the future, for their neighbors. The New Dream may yet tear open new wounds.

And yet, so what?

You knew there would always be a price to pay. Everyone did. The souls in the depths did, too, no doubt. Perhaps not all were willing, perhaps many of those sacrificed were forced to. Perhaps they suffered as brutally as when they drowned in utter darkness. But it is a truth you must accept and endure, now as it was then, because it is worth it.

Because, here you are, a piece of Guangchou, alive and free.

…….

…..



The surface team greets you, bathed in the floodlights surrounding the dry cavern. The test, they tell you, was definitely a success. That you are alive and well, and dry, was proof enough of that. You are then told that wearing the diving gear would still be necessary for the subsequent tests, just to be safe and whatnot. In addition, they'd need to do thorough checks on the Iron Tiger and its systems, to make sure there were no damages or flaws from the dive. Meanwhile, the medical team checks on you.

Still, it doesn't take long for you to head back into the cockpit. The engineer helping you strap in helpfully briefs you once more on the next series of maneuvers and tasks you would be doing while submerged. It was unneeded, though, your mind felt clearer since coming up from the first dive, and you remember clearly your next tasks.

Perhaps it was the look in your eye, or the expression on your face, but the engineer asks you again, hesitantly, if you're sure about this, going back in. They all knew the sunken mine's history. It had only been chosen due to the close proximity to the Mingxiang commune and the absolute need for secrecy. Obviously, the mine's reputation for being cursed also served to ward off unwanted guests. That said, you nodded, you're going back in. Yes, you were sure.

And you were.

The clarity in your thoughts remained as the abyss welcomed you back. There was no fear left as the crane slowly lowered you. All that was left was the words you heard from the man in the television. These souls in the dark, they worked, and died, so they could live. So their families could live. So would you had things been slightly different. But that had changed. Guangchou had changed.

Like the Great Leader said, now… now you were working to thrive. For Guangchou to thrive.

And that… that made all the difference.




Note: Bleergh. Somehow the hardest parts to write are the beginnings and the endings. I was gonna end this humorously with the mc saying there were no leaks save for the one in his pants, but then it turned all serious in the end. Also, I want to say I meant it to be first person and vague so you, the reader, can pretend you're a citizen of guangchou piloting a Sea Tiger (working name) but honestly I was just too lazy to think up a name. As for the ending, if you think it sucks, blame @HeroCooky. He wrote Jungmin's speech. 👀​
 
Ah, if it wasn't clear, I wrote this hoping it would start some sort of plan action to do a project that would help with recovering the sunken fleet. This is no iron tiger prototype, just a series of tests to back up a proposal for securing a budget to make some official modifications. Maybe an actual IT variant. One that might be able to help recover the wrecks with minimal loss of life.

Worst case, it just adds a bonus to the recovery action roll, specifically using the more-powerful-despite-its-size crane used here.
 
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Communist nation with a tradition of starving population - with World class automation software. Priorities in a centrally led government.



When your nation is so backward that even the corruption is basically medieval.

But the difference is kind of insane.

The difference is a tad exaggerated in this quest, but centrally planned economies can do a hell of a lot with very little. Consider how the USSR actually managed to become America's main rival on the world stage after starting out pre-industrial and then getting fucked up by the Germans in WW2.

And we've got a functional social revolution to boot. But we need to do is unfuck our political system to make sure we don't end up with an ossified bureaucracy like the USSR.

Now, if I understand the action economy compass correctly, turning up the freedom dial would mean we lose control over some of our actions, but there no rep cost to them?
I would also suggest some means of mechanically biasing the choice rather than assigning it at random - people will choose to do what's beneficial to them.

Meanwhile, the benefit of using Potential instead of Capacity is that you can never incur maluses if you take too many actions?

Ah, if it wasn't clear, I wrote this hoping it would start some sort of plan action to do a project that would help with recovering the sunken fleet. This is no iron tiger prototype, just a series of tests to back up a proposal for securing a budget to make some official modifications. Maybe an actual IT variant. One that might be able to help recover the wrecks with minimal loss of life.

Worst case, it just adds a bonus to the recovery action roll.

It was good! Underwater mechs are very aesthetic.
 
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When your nation is so backward that even the corruption is basically medieval.
I don't get that one, could you explain?
As for the ending, if you think it sucks, blame @HeroCooky. He wrote Jungmin's speech. 👀
I take no criticism.

+2 to recover your sunken fleet.
Now, if I understand the action economy compass correctly, turning up the freedom dial would mean we lose control over some of our actions, but there no rep cost to them?
Only if you fully abandon central planning and any kind of non-subsidy/grant/legislative economic shaping.
CyberEnby said:
I would also suggest some means of mechanically biasing the choice rather than assigning it at random - people will choose to do what's beneficial to them.

Meanwhile, the benefit of using Potential instead of Capacity is that you can never incur maluses if you take too many actions?
Yes, but not really, cause the economy will have a melt-down if the US uses all 6k actions it can buy.

And also, this system is a 5-minute doodle framework to insult all 5-minute doodle frameworks, don't take it seriously. :p
 
I don't get that one, could you explain?
As one of the omake rewards you had "military is less corrupt (but still totally corrupted as hell)". The stealth fighter has the stealth costing 4 actions (and 6 rep) compared to 200+ of US.

I took this to mean the difference between the two countries is entirely because of the difference in corruption and ran with it. Because why not?
 
As one of the omake rewards you had "military is less corrupt (but still totally corrupted as hell)". The stealth fighter has the stealth costing 4 actions (and 6 rep) compared to 200+ of US.

I took this to mean the difference between the two countries is entirely because of the difference in corruption and ran with it. Because why not?
Me: "But... that's because of the Starmetal Alloy Chain... not..."
Also Me: "The real cost of creating new things for the US are near entirely taken up by bribes, pork, and theft."
 
One day I shall make some fauna-biologist-adjacent omake so I can force HC to unlock the Sunwood chain.

It'll probably involved some creative biology, a weird creation myth, and some long-lost ancient Guangchou tribe.

In short it's going to be the discovery of some rare fluorescent tree with glowing wood our citizens can carve up and sell as decorative glow-in-the-dark knicknacks.
 
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In short it's going to be the discovery of some rare fluorescent tree with glowing wood our citizens can carve up and sell as decorative glow-in-the-dark knicknacks.
Just slap some foxfire-tree symbiosis into the beginning for that species and you'd be a-okay concerning reality.

Also not like I won't bend biology like an origami crane in the near in-quest future.
 
Me: "But... that's because of the Starmetal Alloy Chain... not..."
Also Me: "The real cost of creating new things for the US are near entirely taken up by bribes, pork, and theft."
As someone who's family managed to advance up the social ladder by working in the US military industrial complex and whose father works Raytheon I can tell you that's incorrect. You see making even basic designs costs a fuck ton of money for a few reasons.

- first you have to research all the prerequisite improvements so that the government won't take away your funding and give it to your rivals.

- then you actually have to design the damn thing and if it's something simple it'll take a few years,if it's a fighter then it will probably take a decade of you are rushing it.

- then you have to build a proof of concept to show that you didn't embezzle the funds and that it's better than your competitor. This proof of concept is like the RX-78 Gundam in the sense that it will have a bunch of stuff that will have to be removed in order to make it cost effective and producible on a mass scale.

- After all of this is done and you actually have a design the government wants then you have to actually set up the factories to produce it.


- This is a grossly oversimplified version of the process and I'm sure I might have skipped a few parts just to make it easy to read and I'm not even getting into subcontractors and SCARS.
 
As someone who's family managed to advance up the social ladder by working in the US military industrial complex and whose father works Raytheon I can tell you that's incorrect. You see making even basic designs costs a fuck ton of money for a few reasons.

- first you have to research all the prerequisite improvements so that the government won't take away your funding and give it to your rivals.

- then you actually have to design the damn thing and if it's something simple it'll take a few years,if it's a fighter then it will probably take a decade of you are rushing it.

- then you have to build a proof of concept to show that you didn't embezzle the funds and that it's better than your competitor. This proof of concept is like the RX-78 Gundam in the sense that it will have a bunch of stuff that will have to be removed in order to make it cost effective and producible on a mass scale.

- After all of this is done and you actually have a design the government wants then you have to actually set up the factories to produce it.


- This is a grossly oversimplified version of the process and I'm sure I might have skipped a few parts just to make it easy to read and I'm not even getting into subcontractors and SCARS.

Meanwhile designing military equipment in Guangchou basically boils down to an extended stimulant fueled hackathon.

Design ->Prototype ->Break It->Repeat

Get the minimum viable product out as fast as you can with a laser like focus on the core capabilities.
 
As someone who's family managed to advance up the social ladder by working in the US military industrial complex
Get the minimum viable product out as fast as you can with a laser like focus on the core capabilities.
Difference between the two: there isn't (yet) entire industrial complex designed to get the maximum amount of money between source of funding and production. Yet

Edit: Rule of Pork spending: minimize the number of people that get pork. Actual workers get (Union) wages, not the golden parachute.
 
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That is a well thought-out response and explanation of a grossly oversimplified/glossed over point told in a joke.

However, consider this:
The Gaye ain't Paye, so ya better make that Plane now at budget. *Maliciously loads slug into 12-Inch shotgun*
Fifth Generation Warfare baybee!
That reminds me:

Edit: Daaaaawwww, sad emoji.
HeroCooky threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Lindianism? Total: 20
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That is a well thought-out response and explanation of a grossly oversimplified/glossed over point told in a joke.

However, consider this:
The Gaye ain't Paye, so ya better make that Plane now at budget. *Maliciously loads slug into 12-Inch shotgun*

That reminds me:

Edit: Daaaaawwww, sad emoji.



Edit: Look on the bright side! Maybe our mech reveal will shake things up enough to give him a re-roll!
 
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Oh God.
If it does and they get a crit...
It will either lead to them SOMEHOW cramming mechs into their hodgepodge, or we would see an internal war between the pro-mech lobby and the tech-luddite lobby...:eek:
If I were to guess the aerospace companies like Lockheed, Raytheon and general electric would be on the pro mech side while infantry suppliers would be on the Luddite side
 
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