Springtime of Nations II: A European Republic Quest

[HanEmpire]

[] Plan Big Polish Sister Republic
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the core of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will form the core of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be partitioned between the German Republic and its eastern neighbor.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.

The German pan-nationalists can be satisfied with getting all of Austria.

 

[Parzival]

If plebiscites aren't an option...

[] Plan Big Polish Sister Republic
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the core of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will form the core of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be partitioned between the German Republic and its eastern neighbor.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.

Here's my (semi-joking) proposal.

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Then this is good.

 

[spiritualatheist]

If plebiscites aren't an option...

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Asking them to joing involves a plebiscite.

 

[Regency]

World Republic is impractical the German bureaucracy and other government stuff no matter how good it is now can not handle that many different things to juggle.

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It could also result in enclaves if certain

areas voted against joining a potential Central European Republic.

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If plebiscites aren't an option...

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Etranger confirmed these are literally plebiscites in Discord btw

 

[Manowl]

Let's do a world republic I'm sure poland won't disagree because Russia is there is they are independent also us Germans have kept mostly our promise

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The polish would immediately declare war they would rather die then suffer being under the rule of somebody else again.

 

[Aedan777]

[] Plan: Our Field of Sister Republics
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the core of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be partitioned between its neighbors.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will form the core of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will form the core of an independent Ruthenian Republic.

Though I'll probably approval vote for anything that isn't The World Republic.

 

[Ultrackius]

[] Plan Big Polish Sister Republic
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the core of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will form the core of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be partitioned between the German Republic and its eastern neighbor.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.

unironically kinda what I want, annexing land is lame let's go for sister republics

 

[Ultrackius]

Also, I don't want any of Prussia to be in Germany. It should be entirely Polish to spite the Prussians

 

[Parzival]

It could also result in enclaves if certain

areas voted against joining a potential Central European Republic.

Bordergore bad


Etranger confirmed these are literally plebiscites in Discord btw

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[] The World Republic
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will be asked to join the German Republic.

Then this.

 

[Manowl]

Parts of Prussia likely what to go back to being a part of Germany.

 

[Aranfan]

I am bad at geography. I just want sister republics for Denmark and Poland, and setting up for a federal republic in the former Hapsburg lands.

 

[Haruhi is Waifu]

The Polish nationalist reaction to the World Republic would be quite funny indeed

 

[Manowl]

Also, I don't want any of Prussia to be in Germany. It should be entirely Polish to spite the Prussians

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Not letting people decide who they what to be part of because of their past monarchist leaders decisions that they had absolutely zero chances of inferencing and a sizable and majority could not have liked the decisions out of spite is disgusting in a variety of ways....

 

[Stalingrado0527]

[] Greater Germany Plan
[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the nucleus of an independent Danish Republic.
[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be asked to join the German Republic.
[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be asked to join the German Republic.
[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be asked to join the German Republic.
[] [INDPOL] Poland proper will form the nucleus of an independent Polish Republic.
[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be asked to join the German Republic.
[] [INDWGA] Western Galicia will form part of an independent Polish Republic.
[] [INDEGA] Eastern Galicia will form part of an independent Polish Republic.

 

[Ultrackius]

I gotta say going to the place your army is stationed and saying "do you want to join us, vote on it" is not a neutral act

 

[Regency]

I gotta say going to the place your army is stationed and saying "do you want to join us, vote on it" is not a neutral act

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The Polish nationalist reaction to the World Republic would be quite funny indeed

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Yeah, horrible idea. We have millions of troops occupying their territory, so this could be seen as a threat. Let's avoid that.

 

[spiritualatheist]

I gotta say going to the place your army is stationed and saying "do you want to join us, vote on it" is not a neutral act

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It absolutely isn't, especially when Poland has been striving for national liberation for one and a half quests now. Let's not sour our win by pissing off our allies.

 

[Manowl]

I gotta say going to the place your army is stationed and saying "do you want to join us, vote on it" is not a neutral act

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Multiple factions in the government would not allow influences like that to happen, like isn't that a little paranoid to say that?

 

[Haruhi is Waifu]

It absolutely isn't, especially when Poland has been striving for national liberation for one and a half quests now. Let's not sour our win by pissing off our allies.

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It would be extremely hilarious for the clamoring of "Never Another Poland" to turn into "Poland Must Join"

Something something die a hero something something become a villain

 

[Ultrackius]

Multiple factions in the government would not allow influences like that to happen, like isn't that a little paranoid to say that?

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It doesn't matter if we go "we don't care either way we promise" if your living in Poland a bunch of guys with guns just came in, kicked out Russia, and then when you started celebrating went "so do you want to join us now"

 

[LuxemburgLover69]

I want a Central European/World Republic as much as the next bloke, but I think at least Denmark and Poland ought to remain independent. I'd like us to start that process at a later date through steps such as how we've been experimenting with labour vouches over the last few years.

 

[Regency]

[] Plan: Our Field of Sister Republics
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the core of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be partitioned between its neighbors.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will form the core of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be asked to join the German Republic.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will form the core of an independent Ruthenian Republic.

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I'm for this plan for now.
1. Denmark whole is a given
2. Much of Prussia (the German majority part - I like how you have West Prussia with significant Polish population in part of it to be partitioned) wants to join Germany - it was mentioned during our taking of Konigsberg.
3. The majority of territory Poland wants is in this plan
4. East Galicia as a core of independent Ukraine/Ruthenia could be our springboard for organizing radicalism in Russian Ruthenia.

Edit: Wait hold up, could you change Austrian Silesia to partition? The eastern part is Polish-majority IIRC

 

[Nuew]

Will reconstruction happen in countries that are granted independence?

 

[Nerdorama]

Get Prussia to join us because that's the last part of Germany and they can't really handle being independent

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Prussia was a German colonial conquest in Poland that for some reason some Brandenburgers decided they should name themselves after.

[] PLAN: Denmark, Poland, and Ruthenia
-[] [INDJYL] Jylland will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDSJA] Sjaelland will form the core of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDBOR] Bornholm will be part of an independent Danish Republic.
-[] [INDWPR] West Prussia will be partitioned between its neighbors.
-[] [INDEPR] East Prussia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOZ] Poznan will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDPOL] Poland Proper will form the core of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDSIL] Austrian Silesia will be partitioned between the German Republic and its eastern neighbor.
-[] [INDWGA] West Galicia will be part of an independent Polish Republic.
-[] [INDEGA] East Galicia will form the core of an independent Ruthenian Republic.

 

[Godwinson]

[] Plan: The Great Plebiscite
-[] Put every option presented on plebiscites in every region listed. Germany does not come as a conqueror to dictate to other peoples.