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Yeah, this is very much a reason to stop caring about the story if you were already on the fence like I am. It went from feeling like a very low-stakes/low-seriousness story to a zero-stakes/zero-seriousness story, which isn't really appealing.
 
Alpha Zerg said:
Yeah, this is very much a reason to stop caring about the story if you were already on the fence like I am. It went from feeling like a very low-stakes/low-seriousness story to a zero-stakes/zero-seriousness story, which isn't really appealing.
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He writes these chapters well ahead of time on another site (caerazkaban) and this was something a long time coming. Wait for the next chapter where the reason for this is explained, or go to the other site and read ahead.
 
Mister Ficser said:
Still, much as he wanted to comment on the heroes holding actions, he knew he wouldn't be heard. The group was practically married to their ideals, in sickness and in health, yada yada yada.
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If you're not going to say "Just kill them" (Which, given that hell is an actual thing and 'people' come back from it? Not actually a plan without flaws) you could at least say "Improve your prisons and be ready to intercept breakout attempts".
 
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Why was it asking which language he spoke?
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Forgot that he changed the files to a virus.

At first, I didn't quite like the "time travel", since, as some have said, it's hard to pull off and it generally cheapens the story, but in the end, I liked the precognition vision thing, even more since I felt things were a little weird in the "other timeline", the tone kinda changed a lot, and I personally wasn't liking where it was going, so kudos to you for pulling that, can't wait now to see where it goes from now.
 
The thing about the tone is that it makes sense that Alchemist makes a bunch of bad(ish) decisions and shit goes off the rails when you consider that Augury is supposed to be a "what if?" kind of skill. But Alchemist is the Alpha tester and he found a bug!!! That's more interesting than the bog-standard power fantasy, I think.
 
kaosisreality said:
Accidentally, unintentionally, and if you read between the lines: un-repeatably, but sort of, yes; that's one way of looking at it.
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The moment you introduce the 'dream sequence' all narrative weight to a story is lost since we now will always doubt any scenes veracity to the plot. This has been done many times in the past and it's why the only place you encounter such plot devices directly connected to the main character are in soaps and existentialist films.
 
ZeroK and Angel said:
The moment you introduce the 'dream sequence' all narrative weight to a story is lost since we now will always doubt any scenes veracity to the plot. This has been done many times in the past and it's why the only place you encounter such plot devices directly connected to the main character are in soaps and existentialist films.
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While that is an excellent general rule, I don't think it applies here. This is a Gamer fic that seeks to subvert tropes. The moment Alchemist went all in on the tropes in stead of subverting them was kind of a clue that something was wrong. Combined with the whole "here's a glitch that is absolutely brutalizing you" thing and I think that using mistakes in tone to add another Gamer element was done well here (admittedly, I'm up to date on the rough drafts which are like 10ish chapters ahead).
 
ZeroK and Angel said:
The moment you introduce the 'dream sequence' all narrative weight to a story is lost since we now will always doubt any scenes veracity to the plot. This has been done many times in the past and it's why the only place you encounter such plot devices directly connected to the main character are in soaps and existentialist films.
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It pretty much is an existentialist fanfic, IMO they all turn into that when they start to apply therapy and other real world logic type of things to what should be a superhero urban fantasy story.

Or something closer to dc which is going meta in the way "muh, the revolving door and nothing ever gets done," which ignored that things get done, but then the writer's comic story ends and the universe resets to try a different artist's take of things.
Once the heroes win there isn't any more story to tell, at least not much of it.
So it's less of a revolving door and more a revolving reality or time loop.
 
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Oof, knew this was going to be a polarizing chapter.

Vodkasheep said:
No worse, he had a windows update and it wasn't taking remind me later as an answer.
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Basically this.

EdroGrimshell said:
If you read the skill from last chapter at the very end, it said Augury, or a vision of the future based on potential actions you are considering. Then the skill corrupted because he was missing Gamer's Mind and Gamer's Body causing it to autofail and cause considerable backlash on him.
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Exactly right on the money.

There's a recurring trope in Gamer stories.
Once your gamer gets a particular stat benchmark, he gets a free skill or perk.

Something I'm sure most of you probably picked up on pretty quick, he didn't get those.
Honestly don't care for 'em most of the time because it's just used to tack on another modifier to make them numbers bigger.

And... This might just be me. I hate stories that use a lot of 'foresight' kinds of skills or abilities. It turns into a chessmaster gambit, and a lot of the people who try to write them would struggle with checkers.

drvash said:
Is pink kryptonite the one that switches gender or acts as an aphrodisiacs?

Himbo!Karen: (indifferent) "...Meh..."
Fem!Conner: "I'm okay with this."
Miss Martian: :oops: :confused: :sour: ?!?!
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I'm not sure it'd matter to Miss Martian at all. As a true shapeshifter, gender and equipment are probably just a matter of preference. About like picking out a pair of shoes.

After a while, you just start to really like one pair, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the others.

Kaliedo said:
Did he just lose his ability to use magic or is mana attunement something else?
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Something else. Knowing how 'The Gamer' usually gets written, probably some kind of magic boosting skill.

Vorm-- said:
Forgot that he changed the files to a virus.

At first, I didn't quite like the "time travel", since, as some have said, it's hard to pull off and it generally cheapens the story, but in the end, I liked the precognition vision thing, even more since I felt things were a little weird in the "other timeline", the tone kinda changed a lot, and I personally wasn't liking where it was going, so kudos to you for pulling that, can't wait now to see where it goes from now.
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I'm glad you approve! Alchemist will be doing a bit of reflecting on himself over the next few chapters.
Though, looking at them, I think I need to clarify a few small points before I post them. A part of what's making Alchemist act a bit different is touched on but not clearly stated.
Actually he outright said it in the last chapter, but still...

Eternal_Yokai said:
Thank you for writing this story, it took awhile to catch up but was an extremely enjoyable read :)
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I'm so glad you're enjoying it! Thank you for saying so, it means a lot to me :)
 
Mister Ficser I knew it! Batman's a D&D style Adventurer Looter, and Prepper. Muahahaha!

They loot Fort Knox military base and the national disaster relief depots. Along with acquiring Batman's wish list of technology and supplies. Multiple road trains worth of it using Leslie/Tracy's Phantom Driver spell. Robin was so frustrated at the jubilously, exuberant, murder hobo, Uber Doomsday Prepper Batman he went, "Fuck this shit I'm out." Taking a multigrenade launcher and several cases to relax shooting the Hordes outside.
 
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Mister Ficser said:
I'm not sure it'd matter to Miss Martian at all. As a true shapeshifter, gender and equipment are probably just a matter of preference. About like picking out a pair of shoes.

After a while, you just start to really like one pair, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the others.
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Well the Martians used to (when they where Burning Martians) and might still be able to reproduce Asexually.
What I'm guessing is that martians can reproduce how humans do(to give them more diversity genetically also love) and can do it like they did in the past (if they want kids but not a partner) with also Psionic energy heavily in the mix (which is also how the guardians block gets passed along which is a mix of Emotional Spectrum, Psionic, and Genetic manipulation )

Since from what i know The Martians are basically just protoplasmic flesh that has a preferred Shape as you said gender is a preference more then anything else.
interesting thought is that the high Level and Skilled Martians like J'onn and Megan(in the future she is supposed to have a higher potential then J'onn) should be able to exist without their physical body
 
EdroGrimshell said:
Sexual Orientation, actually. So from heterosexual to homosexual and homosexual to heterosexual, IIRC.
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So what would it do to one that was ace? Would it make them bisexual or a pansexual nymphomaniac slut?
Rockinalice said:
interesting thought is that the high Level and Skilled Martians like J'onn and Megan(in the future she is supposed to have a higher potential then J'onn) should be able to exist without their physical body
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I believe that was her psychic telepathic power, not her shapeshifting powers. She had more raw power but was far less trained, skilled, and experienced.
In AD&D terms, imagine that J'onn is a level 15 psionicist with 12 CON 13 INT and 16 WIS while Megan has 16 CON 17 INT and 20 WIS (assuming martians have a racial bonus to CON+1 INT+1 wisdom+2 since they are an all psionic race which needs WIS 15) but is only level 5.
She's got the potential to surpass J'onn, but J'onn is still stronger at the moment.
 
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SlickRCBD said:
So what would it do to one that was ace? Would it make them bisexual or a pansexual nymphomaniac slut?
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No idea since it only really showed Superman being affected by it. And, AFAIK, he's always been straight in the comics, though getting into that conversation is probably for another thread. Can probably find something for this on a DC Chat or Subreddit.
 
Its worth remembering that this is not Crazy Steve.This is Batman of the Animated Series and Young Justice. BatDad.
The likelihood that he'd have condoned releasing a necromantic WMD on an island and killed several hundred people was always somewhat smaller than zero, even if it wasnt the same island where Talia Al Ghul lived.

And given Alchemist's previous stated avoidance of lethal measures even with known murderers, he was not going to knowingly release Zombles on Infinity Island either.

Killing people is Serious Business.
For an archmage who has actually died and is on a first name basis with Primordial Goddesses and the Embodiment of Death, its actually a lot more serious than for many people.

Alchemist has explicitly outfitted himself so he would not have to kill people, from the Toad spell to the Toad sword.
You're not likely to see him break that on a whim.
 
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