Project: Gamer Ver. 2 (Young Justice/Gamer/Multicross OC)
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Actually, Exotics is not cyberware. It's not Cyberpunk, it's Biopunk. Exotic parts are custom grown for the client by genemodding their own tissue.
Also, I'm pretty sure all cyberware gives feedback. The more expensive stuff might be more precise and all encompassing, but considering even basic arm models are peak human, yet no one breaks glass around them, and people mod themselves willingly, they must have it by default.
Military grade experimental unit. Something they were really proud of in the anime.
Alchemist will be explaining to him why those are all bad things.
"Military grade? And you think that's some preem work?"
"What? Yeah! It's totally nova!"
"Kid, the military shit is built on three core principles. Cheap, fast and cheap."
"You said 'cheap' twice..."
"Yeah. I did. And don't get me started on 'Experimental' units, kid. That's the over-engineered, super heavy shit that hasn't had any safeties built in yet. That's them testing how far they can take something so they know 'Oh, fifteen uses inside of five minutes is where people get blender brain'."
"...So it's not a good thing?"
"...Weren't you a straight-A student? Or was Arasaka Academy just teaching you how to get some brown on your nose?"
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I'm pretty sure Experimental and Cheap cancels itself out. First, they build something to achieve the desired effect, not looking much at how much money it takes, and then when it prooves itself, then cutting corners start.
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Alchemsit got a chance to bring a little of Shadowrun in Cyberpunk. Specifically in Dragon department. Maybe he can start a corp or run for president Dunkelzahn style? Gotta worry not to get sniped by an orbital lazer thou like that one in Europe.
That's what it should do, yeah. But I'd like to point to the M-16 that was used for the U.S. military for years.
The thinktank that designed the gun started with the idea of being cheap and easy to manufacture and that was before it 'passed' testing. The barrel was junk, the receiver jammed like nobodies business and if it got some sand in the mechanisms? Buddy, you're screwed.
You were better off using the damned thing to bludgeon someone and then take their AK-47. At least then you'd have something that worked.
Now, a real world design that actually fits with how things should have gone was the Pancor Jackhammer. That thing was designed to be heavy as sin and functional in just about any condition. Problem was, it was extremely expensive to manufacture and the gunsmith that designed them went out of business before it finished testing through the military. Some of its design principles have since been adopted into other weapons since then, however.
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Clearly, sir, you have never experienced the
Fun fact about the Jackhammer, the cylinder was designed to be converted into an impromptu landmine if needed. Weird, but you can't say ten 12-gauge shells going off into someone's foot wouldn't be effective.
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Best piece then would probably be some corporate teams model?
To be fair, that was mostly the entrenched interests in the military-industrial complex and the single shot rifle lobby. The original design was great, but the testers kept adding absurd demands to sabotage the thing.
If anything, I'd say David's sandy is the M-16 before people started fucking with it.
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Yep. The corpos are counties unto themselves with militaries to match.
We don't actually know what model of Sandestivan that Adam Smasher was using but its speed, if not its potential duration, were on par with the unit in David. It might have been a perfected unit. It might have been an older model that was too high spec for anything but a full borg.
More than a few times we saw David upchucking blood after using his unit which should have implied some kind of internal hemorrhage. I'm guessing an aneurysm since he went full stupid pretty quick after getting chipped. And anime logic is... Yeah. "All internal bleeding must be coughed up or vomited out because it's cinematic!"
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Well, considering the complexity discrepancy between Sandy and M16, I was thinking more in line with X22/23.
Fair enough. My argument could simply be boiled down to 'What you said makes sense. That's why they don't do it.'
I'm sure you're familiar with the idea of management making terrible choices because they have no connection to the people actually doing the work? We see that in the Cyberpunk world and it's even more disconnected than it is in the real world.
Actually, one great example is CP2077 itself. It's a decent game but it was forced out the door because the finance team wanted it published before it was done and the management team, instead of telling them to curb their expectations, told the production team to hurry the hell up.
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Well, one could argue, that whatever Arasaka or Militech is doing for the army, will go to their own "security" in the first place, so I guess they wouldn't want to cut corners on those, since they would compromise their own protection and risk their profits. So, build high end prototype, cut a bit of corners for their own people, and then cut a lot of corners for the military.
And yeah, I know CP77 situation, although it was less financial pushing for the release, and more them (or management) insisting on releasing it on last gen. They supposedly had to rebuild half of their engine to work with CP world, add to that trying to make it work on 5 different platforms and you have what you had.
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Yeah, the game wasn't a perfect implementation of the source material. No furries, no tentacle monsters, no posergangs full of Elvis impersonators and Trekkies and coneheads, no Gemini or full body conversions outside of smasher and v, no mechas, or panzerkunst, or anything else blatantly copied from other cyberpunk franchises.......
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Something people keep forgetting, on top of that, is the fact that militaries have to get their equipment mass produced. Very, very, very little of what they have is snowflake kit. Nobody's going to have a single sniper rifle used by a single guy in a single unit. That model is going to be used by hundreds, at minimum, of people! Unique, quality equipment is incredibly rare ever since the world started standardizing. You have to have everything be cheap - to a degree - just to afford maintaining it, much less the cost in money and time it'd be to give everyone and their mother special training for a thousand unique pieces of equipment.
Really, what 'military grade' should mean is the item in question is 'good enough' for equipping a unit. Shoot, even IRL special forces equipment isn't much better than standard military kit on average. They just get a wider selection of toys to play with, and more freedom to mix and match.
Ficser pretty much nailed it, there. Unlike what Hollywood and anime in general would have you believe, the 'super prototype' is largely a myth. Can it happen? I mean, yeah, sure. But I sure as shit wouldn't want to be the poor SOB to have to test something like that, especially in a crapsack world like Cyberpunk.
A corp's first goal, and often their only one, is for profit. So if they could profit a few billion bucks selling a nuclear power plant with absolutely zero safeties? They would. Without hesitation, even! Well... Arasaka might not, before the events of CP2077, but that's only because Saburo Araska lived through WW2. Everyone else there, however, absolutely would. I mean, hell, just look at the corpo start of 2077. V gets fired and Arasaka shuts down V's bank account. With all of V's money still inside it. And that's the least of the horrific things that the firing directly does to V.
Anyway, experimental tech. You can still cut corners even while you're pushing the bleeding edge of technology, from cutting functions to safeties. Heck, a lot of experimental stuff was quite literally just that: a test of an inferior version of another item, seeing if it can stand on its own cut down.
And if you want to look at one of the most infamous 'super prototypes' in Earth's history? Look no further than the atomic bombs, 'Fat Man' and 'Little Boy.' Prototype superweapons deployed in desperation... And the B-29 crews had little clue if they'd even survive deployment. Their instructions can be summed up as, "Gun the engines as hard as you can and pray you make it out of the blast radius."
EDIT: Forgot to mention this, but to be fair to David, most folks don't delve to the degree that SVers and SBers do on that sort of thing. And I'm sure in the Cyberpunk 'verse the corps do what they can to suppress extensive thought and digging. Still, the kid suffers pretty hard from his lack of critical thought, even after he's had a few reality checks.
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my god, imagine them paying Al to not reveal that there are other dimensions because it would create a panic, and Al just accept, so everyone thinks he is some sort of intrigue focus genius that is black mailing the government
then he tries to stop a crime and cant get arrested because he simply proves to the cops mathematically that he doesn't have a quirk but magic and the government goes into over drive to suppress that even more, so they just give him hero license without any of the bureaucracy so that he won't be arrested and cause a second quirk emergence revolution
anime is full of these misunderstandings
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Why are his eyes bright yellow? Well, he can just say he's got bioware.
How'd he afford that? Just be mysterious. Bitches love mysterious
Designer babies are also a thing among the rich. Would just mean he had rich and or important parents. Then through some undoubtably dramatic spinoff worthy events, he fucks off, away from that life, and decides to be a Solo.
How'd he afford that? Just be mysterious. Bitches love mysterious
Designer babies are also a thing among the rich. Would just mean he had rich and or important parents. Then through some undoubtably dramatic spinoff worthy events, he fucks off, away from that life, and decides to be a Solo.
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I would love to read that, please do it
Wow. Three hundred pages. Amazing.
Maybe you could give Izuku other actual options than exploding his body to save people. I enjoyed the manga/show but All Might really just gave that kid a slower way to kill himself than what he was going to do as a Quirkless hero chaser.
Alchemist, Jinx, and Yuffie's "git good" program is just what he needs.
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He could have definitely learned how to use OfA without having to explode himself, if just would have taken more time then Izuku had to get into UA. (And possibly knowledge Toshi didn't have)
Well, sure. I'm just questioning giving the kid OfA in the first place. Izuku was/is incredibly self destructive because society told him he was worthless without a genetic oddity (that could randomly be used to punch faces). This notably doesn't change with Toshi's training or Quirk, just passes the buck. "People without Quirks are useless but here's one so you're now not a waste of space. Better throw yourself face first in to every villain or dangerous situation you encounter to be worthy of it."
Having to live up to All Might when the dude basically had to hold up society on his lonesome while sacrificing the entirety of his social life isn't a good thing. Alchemist offering a more cerebral option to the kid (magic or even just physical/intelligence ops types training) would help expand on the Izuku who profiled heroes and villains in his books not the one who tried to fist fight a physically immune slime.
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To be fair he did pull his head out of the clouds and realized how close he came through is idleness trying not to show favoritism almost got the kid killed does the excuse him no but at least the lug is willing to try and approach it better.