Problem comes when Jayme, an healthy 22 years old, decides that he really wants to cut off his two, perfectly healthy, arms in favour of gorilla arms. It's easy to say that putting tons of chrome =/= cyberpsychosis, cause it's effectively true, but you have to look on the other side of the coin. How many people in an healthy headspace decide that cutting their limbs off and putting metal versions of them (probably with reduced sense of touch too) is a good idea?
Uh, how large is the fitness industry? How many guys would want to get super gains with a little work and a week of recovery? Particularly ones that you don't need to spend an hour a day maintaining and don't require you to watch what you eat all the time. Perfect looks, good hair, a voice like a movie star, a strong and capable body, showing no signs of ageing, beyond perfect senses, and a skull based entertainment and communications set up.
A little durability increase would increase life span, lower mortality from traffic accidents or tripping down a set of steps by its self would be a great improvement. A biomoniter and tracking app would remove a wide set of health risks including heart attacks. The ability to replace damaged parts would vastly speed recovery from anything.

This is all in the normal end of stuff, even before you ask what would you be willing to give up for minor super powers. Meaningful increases to health, quality of life, and materially improve job prospects.
 
That's, uh, that's fuckin' moving for intrasolar and interstellar speed. I'm not sure the person who wrote that actually grokked stellar distances.
Can you give me some speeds please? mph or {lightspeed%}. I'm not sure how to tell speed in dnd. (Never played)
Like, I have an idea how fast it would take to get from earth to the moon in an hour. {Using because of a semiregular distance from earth} which is literally the distance. So how would that translate to dnd?
For instance, is it 3 time's dice roll +20? Or is it addition? 3+Dice Roll+20. Maybe, three dice +/x 20?
This has been confusing me.
I'm just all around confused...
 
Can you give me some speeds please? mph or {lightspeed%}.

I'm not gonna do a deep delve into the maths, but Sol to Pluto is (very approximately) 4-6 light hours. At 3d20 hours, that's 3-60 hours for that trip. (Tho there is that 'or more' at the end.) Using our current chemical rockets, Earth to Mars runs about a month, one way, at the optimal configuration. According to the passage quoted, that's again 3-60 hours, one way, for an outer dragon.

As far as interstellar travel, the closest star to Sol is Alpha Centauri, at just a hair under 4.25 light years. An outer dragon would make the trip in 3-60 days, which is WAY above the speed of light. That same nominal time frame would alternately send the outer dragon to the opposite side of the Milky Way, which is...it's a long, long way. It's such a long way that the numbers really kind of cease to have meaning, so you have to resort to scientific notation.

Edit: The notation for dice rolls in D&D (and many other system) is number of dice, D to represent your talking about dice, followed by the type of die. So 3d20 means rolling 3 twenty sided dice, giving an inclusive result between 3 and 60. 5d6, alternately, would be 5 six sided dice, with an inclusive result between 5-30. Alternately, if your level 20 barbarian crits someone with his giga-axe of death, you can wind up with something ridiculous like (5d12+40)*3+3d6 for a total amount of stupid damage.

Edit of edit: Derped the high number on 3d20 in the explanation.
 
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Not... Initially.

Huh.

He just gained a new ability from Eden that I don't have any plans for yet called 'Devour'.

I was pulling primarily from the Tome of Beasts entry for the Void Dragon for 5e which simplified a fair few things. Some of the spots it left empty, I would draw from 3e.

And somewhere in the whole mess, where I haven't been able to find again just yet, it also covered the speed that they could traverse Outer Space at which put the Spelljammers to shame.

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Duinuogwuin/Legends

The Duinuogwuin, colloquially called Star Dragons, were among the galaxy's more secretive and strange species. Though variable in appearance, Duinuogwuin generally had serpentine bodies, diaphanous wings, and a pair of legs on each of many body segments. The legs on their frontmost segment were...

i feel like this would be a better fit personality wise to Alchemist then a D&D void dragon

they can travel faster, have an equal or better breath weapon

here be neutral good socially awkward loners
 
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Uh, how large is the fitness industry? How many guys would want to get super gains with a little work and a week of recovery? Particularly ones that you don't need to spend an hour a day maintaining and don't require you to watch what you eat all the time. Perfect looks, good hair, a voice like a movie star, a strong and capable body, showing no signs of ageing, beyond perfect senses, and a skull based entertainment and communications set up.
A little durability increase would increase life span, lower mortality from traffic accidents or tripping down a set of steps by its self would be a great improvement. A biomoniter and tracking app would remove a wide set of health risks including heart attacks. The ability to replace damaged parts would vastly speed recovery from anything.

This is all in the normal end of stuff, even before you ask what would you be willing to give up for minor super powers. Meaningful increases to health, quality of life, and materially improve job prospects.
But there's the thing, you're either talking about minor add-on or, again, replacing non-healthy parts. I was instead talking about how many mentally and physically healthy people wouldn't consider 'borging out. The difference is far more dramatic in one rather than the other.
 
But there's the thing, you're either talking about minor add-on or, again, replacing non-healthy parts. I was instead talking about how many mentally and physically healthy people wouldn't consider 'borging out. The difference is far more dramatic in one rather than the other.
There is a large difference between healthy and perfect.
I suspect that anyone that isn't in basically perfect condition already would strongly consider borging or extensive implants. Also getting to look how you want would be a big deal. Even ignoring how likely it is that social pressure would be to tend towards it given how safe, convenient and useful it is.
 
Right now? No. But genetics says I'll be looking at a few dozen joint replacements a couple decades from now. Skipping the one-by-one approach and just going full borg sounds less painful overall.
Take lots of omega 3s to ease up on inflammation of the joint tissue (and everything else), along with glucosamine and chondroitin? Oh, and gelatin for additional connective-tissue building blocks. You don't need to already be suffering for preventative measures to help you.
 
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Had to catch up on a lot of stuff. It's nice to see Paula Crock becoming a hero as Tigress, while Artemis Crock still becomes a hero with her mother, albeit with the Tigress name taken, Artemis goes by Shrike now instead.
It was also nice seeing Polka-Dot Man appear, he's not a well known Batman villain, but being in The Suicide Squad did make audiences a bit more familiar with him.
 
Shrike is a codename used by several characters in the comics, in fact a few were even assassins and Bat-Family enemies, but no one in the Crock family has used this name before. I guess the only reason people didn't recognize the name Artemis was because it's the name of the Greek goddess of the Moon, who like Artemis Crock, very frequently used a bow.
 
Anime Adjacent: Edgerunners 02
----- Edgerunners 02

The week of downtime left David feeling like he'd missed a cue. Like there'd been something he was supposed to have done, but forgot about. As though he'd missed the NCART to school and now he was going to fail a test.

He couldn't explain it, at all.

The week itself had been... Rough. Even without worrying about cash? He'd been stuck sitting at home, adjusting. Sometimes the cyberware would twinge, time would slow down. Only for a second at a time, but it had been so weird to adjust to! He'd usually trip or drop whatever he'd been holding when it happened.

At least it would send a notice to his optics. The last one, a few days back, had said 'Integration completed successfully!' and he hadn't had any more issues.

The worst part? Honestly?

"Guess it's a good thing you died in a clinic when you did, mom." He'd been going stir crazy, talking to his mom's ashes. The last few days, vegging out on a couch and staring at the T.V. had been a mix of bad and worse.

Like the fact that he was getting constant news alerts that some psycho was going around, gunning up clinics and ripperdocs. NCPD's announcements about being close to catching the cyberpsycho kept getting proven wrong when the news was showing off videos of the before and aftermath. People with holes in their skulls and patients that had limbs and organs missing.

Whatever nutjob was out there? They were a real piece of work. Even for Night City.

A few days into his convalescence he'd tried going back to school. Get back into routine.

Have something to do.

He'd been turned away at the door by security. They'd been uncompromising- He wasn't allowed back in for a few more days. Even threatened to have him dragged out by NCPD if he didn't leave.

So... He left. Sat down in the NCART and just rode the rails until it had gone around and around and around. He'd gotten off as the sun was setting after spending a day just stuck in his head.

He hadn't been the only one missing school that day, at least. Across from him had been some little girl, blood red optics and her skin all chromed over in some cheap gray dye job. She'd only been on the mass transit monorail for about twenty minutes but that kind of appearance was hard to forget.

Yesterday, David had tried to see about tracking down the Solo that had pulled him out of the Doc's clinic. The teen had barely known where to start with that kind of thing, though. He only knew of one common contact that the two had.

Doctor Robert Rainwater, a ripperdoc in the Watson district of Night City. The man had actually been pretty happy to see David up and about.

Something about how most folks would sit around doing nothing after getting something chipped in, which was bad for the body and ended up being bad for the chrome.

David was going back again today. The noodle joints in Watson beat the burrito vending machine down the hall by a landslide. No contest.

Getting off the NCART, barely stepping around a giant amazon with white hair and more chrome than meat, it really struck him how different this part of the city was to his own. It was still poor. Still run down. But it was cleaner and the people had more energy to them than the residents of the Santa Domingo district did.

He was almost to the Ripper Clinic when something to the side, a reflection caught his eye. Looking over, David saw something he hadn't been expecting. The man he'd been looking for, Alec, was sitting at one of the little noodle bars. His glasses were pulled up and into his short, wavy brown hair and he was just watching a television in the corner as he ate.

David hesitated for a long moment but still took a seat. He had a lot of questions he needed to ask.

"Hey... Alec?" David felt nervous as he spoke up. He knew the man was a cold-blooded killer. He'd put a bullet clean through the Ripper that David had occasionally worked for.

"Hmm... Yeah?" The man looked to him and, without the tinted net-glasses obscuring them, David could see the guy had yellow optics. "Kid? You're looking a lot better!"

"Thanks. I'm- Uh, one bowl of the beef? Real Water, please?- I'm feeling a lot better." David struggled for a moment with the interruption by the cook but he thought he was doing alright. "I, uh, I wanted to talk to you about some stuff."

The guy took a long moment to slurp some noodles, some kinda white SCOP clinging to 'em, before answering. "I figured as much. I mean, you sat down and started talking to me. What'ya need kid?"

"David." The boy responded, thumping himself in the chest with a thumb. "Call me David. That was... That was a pretty solid payday from the, uh, thing. Earlier. I kinda got to earn my own scratch now so I was wondering... I mean, you're a Solo, right?"

"You want me to teach you? Or do you want to run with me?" The man put his noodles on the bar and turned to the kid, giving him his full attention. One thing in particular that David noticed was the lack of ports on Alec's neck. "Got to warn you, kid. I'm one of the more boring mercs in the business."

"Either? Both?" David paused for a moment to accept his own bowl of noodles. "Just... Explain it to me? Please?"

"...Alright." The guy sat up a bit straighter and pulled his glasses down over his eyes. "There's a bunch of specializations in the business, David. Some of 'em you'll need some serious hardware to pull off."

"Starting off, you get a jack of all trades like me. I'm not going to go in hot and heavy anywhere, my body don't take to chrome too well. I make up for that with preparation, observation and planning." The man tapped the netdeck on his belt before continuing. "Though I can do a bit of work as a netrunner. Folks like me get called 'Crystaljocks', the ones that use external hardware and pre-built programs. Not as fast as a genuine 'runner but I can still pull off most of the same things using macros. Also a lot easier to upgrade my gear since I don't need a ripper to slot anything into place."

"After that you get your heavies. Folks that either bulk up with muscle or chrome. Fellas that can rip open a locked door or handle a heavy machine gun." Alec tapped at his arms before shaking his head. "You get into a team, you'll want one of those on it. Expensive though, gotta keep 'em fed or maintained. Lot of chrome junkies go that route."

"After that you get your techies. Smart ones know a good bit of medicine. If they don't know how to tie a tourniquet? Then they have a habit of being a liability in the field." Again, Alec tapped at the net-deck on his belt. "Never hurts to know how your own gear works, kiddo. Buying a brush set and some gun oil will save you a lot of money in the long run over having to shell out eddies every time your gun jams. Assuming you don't get shot."

"Third are your drivers. Most of the good ones are Nomads, not all though. Truth is, you don't need fast and flashy to make solid cash as a driver." David nodded at the Solo's words, remembering the shit-brown minivan he'd driven. "You get from point A to point B without damaging cargo, you've got a promising future. If you can lose a tail? Then you're looking at real solid money."

"Fourth, finally, you got your netrunners. Freezer meat. Don't ever take 'em lightly 'cuz they can make or break an operation. That said? If you actually see a netrunner on the other side of an op, odds are they're a shit 'runner." Alec paused for a moment to take a sip off a can of Nicola before continuing. "You don't see good ones in the field. Period. I've got a Columbus Freight I've used a few times to ferry around a friend of mine while she was in an ice bath. Wrecked a Maelstrom outpost up north while we were sitting pretty in the city center."

"It sounds kind of exciting." David felt a little giddy at the thought, truth be told. "Is the money good?"

"If it's exciting then you messed up, kid." Alec shook his head and slurped up some more noodles. "...Loud is cheap, at least in this work. You get what your fixer sent you after? Without anyone else knowing you got it? Shit's hard work but the pay is preem."

"...Huh." David needed a moment to process that so he chose to eat. The synth-loin in his noodles may have been cheap and chewy but it still beat the hell out of the burritos in the vending machines back home. Cost about the same, too. "How would I go and do something like that?"

"Well, the first step is knowing what you've got and what you can do." Alec put his empty bowl on the counter and focused his gaze on David. "So. What do you have and what can you do?"

"Well..." What... Did he have? David wasn't big or strong. He didn't know how to drive. He'd never learned anything about taking stuff apart or putting them back together. He didn't even have an actual cyberdeck, just the integrated model that was connected to his optics! "I've got a Sandy?"

"...Not the worst place to start, I guess." Alec sighed and looked up and down David's body. "Current models don't play well with a cyberdeck but I suppose I can give you my last net-deck. An Owl Mark 8, might be a generation out of date but the stealth capabilities should hold up. Everything is geared up for hunting netrunners with a net presence, external decks aren't even an afterthought these days. Too slow. Should be able to link it up with your optics, I suppose."

Alec placed a roll of eddies on the counter and leaned back in his seat, nursing his Nicola. "Eat up, David. We'll get you a crash course on how to use that Sandy and let you look in on an operation I got planned here in a bit."

"...If you got Cyberware Sensitivity, how do you know how to use a Sandestivan?" That wasn't the only question on David's mind as he started piecing some of the oddities together. Like the guy's eyes. He'd never heard of ganic eyes that were bright yellow.

"...I've flatlined a lot of gonks that thought moving fast made up for a lack of skill, kid." Alec put his can on the bar and looked David in the eye. "Either outlast 'em until the speed they're trying to move fries their joints, they try to hit that speed too many times and it fries their brains, or you trip 'em and they still fall at the same speed as anyone else. Lots of bad ways to use that tech."

"The smart ways, choom? There's a reason Blackhand is still around today and it wasn't because he wasted his time on crazy ninja shit when a bullet to the chrome-dome would do the job."
 
There's a reason Blackhand is still around today

Allegedly. There's no real evidence he's still around. Just rumors, and the fact that he was never confirmed dead. Tropewise, that means he's still around, but realistically he just retired or died in a ditch.


One thing that annoyed me about Edgerunners is that no, gravity didn't work normally for Sandy users. It was really badly implemented in that regard.

Seems David might be going the Solo path.
 
This feels well-written, considering I have no context and yet the explanations almost make sense without feeling like an infodump.
 
dope, happy to see another chapter, also David is smart, like really smart. They didn't show it but it was mentioned on a few occasions when someone looked into his background. The kid was able to pull all A's at arasaka academy for all the times he has been there. And when you think about how advanced such a school would be paired with all the kids having state of the art cyber-gear while the kid had next to nothing really put things into perspective on how smart he truly was. Yet all of that was wasted because anime protag powers go brrrr.
 
Something just hit me. I know it's not in the CP77 game, but considering Alecs' eyes and his dragon hand, he would be considered Exotic aka. Cyberpunk Furries. I'm guessing he's maintaining the illusion on his arm, right?
Also, I wonder how to explain potential exotics in CP77 fanfic, if they were not present in the game. Double exotics? By name and rarity? No one around using them because they are too rare? Not popular in NC?
Edit. No, wait! Supposedly Animals have some Exotic mods, but only skin. Alec with his claws and much more interesting scales would be looked at like as someone that uses military tech.
 
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Something just hit me. I know it's not in the CP77 game, but considering Alecs' eyes and his dragon hand, he would be considered Exotic aka. Cyberpunk Furries. I'm guessing he's maintaining the illusion on his arm, right?
Also, I wonder how to explain potential exotics in CP77 fanfic, if they were not present in the game. Double exotics? By name and rarity? No one around using them because they are too rare? Not popular in NC?
Edit. No, wait! Supposedly Animals have some Exotic mods, but only skin. Alec with his claws and much more interesting scales would be looked at like as someone that uses military tech.

you don't have to limit yourself by the game. If you open up and think about the wider world, there are sure to be those with exotic cyber wear like lion's, and dragon wings. In the trailer for cyberpunk, we even see someone with leapord-printed skin. Hell, if you look into the lore there are even artificial wombs to carry kids along with so many more. If you can replace your lung, then you can pay for any exotic part long as you got the eddies for it.

Link me your story once you put it up, would love to read it.
 
Something just hit me. I know it's not in the CP77 game, but considering Alecs' eyes and his dragon hand, he would be considered Exotic aka. Cyberpunk Furries. I'm guessing he's maintaining the illusion on his arm, right?
Also, I wonder how to explain potential exotics in CP77 fanfic, if they were not present in the game. Double exotics? By name and rarity? No one around using them because they are too rare? Not popular in NC?
Edit. No, wait! Supposedly Animals have some Exotic mods, but only skin. Alec with his claws and much more interesting scales would be looked at like as someone that uses military tech.

it's actually pretty easy to explain:
"Ferries stopped being popular in 2033 because TV animation went back to humans, so no one grew up and got their developing sexuality fried by 90s cartoons" -- exemple
 
Well, that depends on the people. You wouldn't argue that anyone that buys a gun IRL will try to go Postal. Same in NC. Especially in NC, since there are 12 million people and 90% of them want to kill you, directly or not. And those that do want to do that directly, are usually up-armored enough to warrant such stuff.
Cyberpsychosis exists only as a gameplay balance. When and where it's not needed, it does not exist. Look at DeusEx. Jensen probably has more cybernetics than V, yet he's perfectly balanced (for a SpecOps guy) human. In Cyberpunk or Shadowrun, Typhoon alone would probably eat up half if not more of your humanity points.

One of the good fan theories I've seen:
I feel like people who ask this, misunderstand the point of cyberpsychosis in 2077.
Cyberpsychosis is meant to be a scapegoat for the fucked up society in Night City.

Reread the shards and Regina's texts on cyberpsychosis. Many of these people, are people who go through fucked up shit, and some of them aren't even insane, like the cyberpsycho who killed the gang members who took his daughter.
Many cyberpsychos are chromed out, but a lot of them are also, normal everyday NC folk that had to go through messed up experiences. Take the other cyberpsycho who had her fiance stolen for a reality tv show.

Veterans get cyberpsychosis not because they have crazy implants, but because they still get trauma from the war. Cyberpsychosis can be eliminated with memory erasure, if it was actually cybernetics, then memory erasure shouldn't be effective.
Cyberpsychosis(at least in 2077) was never meant to be a "the more cybernetics you get, the crazier you are." It's meant to be a scapegoat so the feds and corpos don't have to help the people.

V might be going through some fucked up shit with the relic, losing their friends but they're also having a blast, no? Meeting new friends, bonding with Johnny, and all towards working towards the goal of getting it cured. If you think V should have cyberpsychosis because of what they went through, then I won't really disagree with you. But, cybernetics aren't the issue.

The Truth About Cyberpsychosis- "Some of us begin to isolate themselves, lose their empathy for others, and undergo dramatic mood swings that exhibit sadistic tendencies. The most frightening component to all of this, however, is that most will never be diagnosed. Not all cyberpsychos are known war veterans or former mercenaries equipped with Sandevistan reflex tech. Not all will go out in a blaze of gunfire with MaxTac. Many cyberpsychos in our world possess only a single implant; a knee, a liver. They are unseen, unnoticed. They lock themselves up and shut out their friends, colleagues, and loved ones. The world outside of the Net and their delusions have disappeared from conscious thought. They are sick and alone - and no[sic] is doing a thing about it."


I can agree with you on all of it, another thing I think is that the low-end cyber-gear people get installed doesn't give the same feedback that a normal flesh and blood human arm would. Its like knowing where something is in a 3-dimensional space but get no touch, force, or heat sensation feed back to the brain. Touch is a significant part of the human brain and when you lose that, you also lose touch with reality. from there all it takes is a push off the edge. and fall you will never to be able to return unless they give you a mind wipe. But again, that leaves the same issue.
 
This feels well-written, considering I have no context and yet the explanations almost make sense without feeling like an infodump.

Which is a really big compliment considering this basically was an in-universe infodump. So I'm glad I made it reasonably easy to understand without throwing in a dozen odd links.

They have hovercars and Antigrav tech, and you are complaining about gravity not working right?

From what all I've seen, the Antigrav tech is all pretty big. Fitting a model that can manipulate gravity up and down as the user subconsciously needs would have taken, well, a Linear Frame.

The Sandy really wasn't balanced in the anime. I genuinely can't think of a good reason why anyone and everyone wouldn't have even one of the commercial models if they were trying to do some combat work. We know they've been around for more than fifty years by this point since the use of one by Morgan Blackhand back in 2020 was part of what made him so dangerous. Even one that only doubled a persons perception would be valuable for a netrunner using a setup like Al here is using.

So David will get a lesson on the use of one as a reflex enhancer rather than replacer and why using it like he did in the anime is a Bad Idea.

you don't have to limit yourself by the game. If you open up and think about the wider world, there are sure to be those with exotic cyber wear like lion's, and dragon wings. In the trailer for cyberpunk, we even see someone with leapord-printed skin. Hell, if you look into the lore there are even artificial wombs to carry kids along with so many more. If you can replace your lung, then you can pay for any exotic part long as you got the eddies for it.

Link me your story once you put it up, would love to read it.

At the moment, these side stories are more of a distraction. Something to keep me writing but also giving me a break so I can flesh out things in my current story a bit better. Give the inspiration tap a bit of a chance to recover, if that makes sense.

Even been thinking of a short one for My Hero Academia where Al drops in near the start and is genuinely something of an eldritch horror for everyone who has to deal with him. The first person being All Might who gets the unfortunate prize of seeing Al 'drop in' to that reality.
 
Also, I wonder how to explain potential exotics in CP77 fanfic, if they were not present in the game. Double exotics? By name and rarity? No one around using them because they are too rare? Not popular in NC?
The game was...not a very good implementation of the setting. Frankly we didn't even have fasionwear which doesn't even require model or animation work even though we see it on NPCs all over. It's best just to look at the game (while I love the writing and I've played through like four or five times) a very very limited implementation of everything about the setting.
If you want to write for it, go nuts, I want to read YOUR cyberpunk story, not limited by the game. If you want more lore, check out any of the sourcebooks and just use them for your launchpoint. Red has rippers and the basics for fasionwear, and suposidly Edgerunners and 77 sourcebooks are in the works even if Red is leaving a lot of what the writers considered 'less important' up to the GM to flesh out.
you don't have to limit yourself by the game. If you open up and think about the wider world, there are sure to be those with exotic cyber wear like lion's, and dragon wings. In the trailer for cyberpunk, we even see someone with leapord-printed skin. Hell, if you look into the lore there are even artificial wombs to carry kids along with so many more. If you can replace your lung, then you can pay for any exotic part long as you got the eddies for it.

Link me your story once you put it up, would love to read it.
This pretty much.
 
The Sandy really wasn't balanced in the anime. I genuinely can't think of a good reason why anyone and everyone wouldn't have even one of the commercial models if they were trying to do some combat work. We know they've been around for more than fifty years by this point since the use of one by Morgan Blackhand back in 2020 was part of what made him so dangerous. Even one that only doubled a persons perception would be valuable for a netrunner using a setup like Al here is using.
Intentional flaws built in to the normal ones, side effects, time limits, Extremely high prices, e.t.c

i think the one David had was one of the experimental ones?
 
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