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Paths of Civilization II: Paths of Industrialization

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Given that Academic Freedom is about to complete anyway, will we get a chance to start a student exchange program with the Hung, especially with a DO action next turn?
 
8bitBob said:
Are we gonna brain drain? Please tell me we're gonna brain drain. :V
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wikipedia said:
The Ming dynasty (1368-1644) retained and expanded the system it inherited. Shortly after the inauguration of the dynasty, the Hongwu Emperor in 1370 declared that the exams should cover the Four Books, discourses, and political analysis, accepting the Neo-Confucian canon put forth by Zhuxi in the Song dynasty. But he firmly insisted on including the martial arts. The curriculum at the National Academy emphasized law, mathematics, calligraphy, horse riding, and archery in addition to Confucian classics required in the exams.[39] The emperor especially emphasized archery.[40]
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Kung-fu scholars with skills that lie completely in another time and cultural context? I am not sure if the brain drain is going to be that useful without a whole lot of education.
 
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DakkaMania said:
They can certainly find work in our bureaucracy. It's not like our people can make sense of the gibberish our own bureaucrats spout.
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I understand they make good wives. And at least they have librarians. And we always need farmers. And they can learn to shoot a gun as well as any.

Perhaps that is a solution. We send them officers to train their troops, they send US troops to ofload some of their food crisis by shipping off a load of mouths to feed. We then ship those mouths back as trained troops when Hung's food crisis is stable.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
I understand they make good wives. And at least they have librarians. And we always need farmers. And they can learn to shoot a gun as well as any.

Perhaps that is a solution. We send them officers to train their troops, they send US troops to ofload some of their food crisis by shipping off a load of mouths to feed. We then ship those mouths back as trained troops when Hung's food crisis is stable.
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Good wives?

Those mandarin are bureaucrats we are talking about, not common Hung foot soldiers.
 
OLD WAYS​

Fotharym remembered the old ways. Well, that wasn't to say she remembered them perfectly: she hadn't been there. But she had been taught by the priest, like all of the children in their isolated little village, and she could recite the oral history that had been passed down since before the Great Destroyer had come to the steppes. Her Master's Master's, and so on, Master had lived in the Southlands in those days, in what the scholars of the cities would call the Old Ymaryn Empire, and had fled to the steppe with his family, hoping to preserve what knowledge he held in his mind from the flames. And preserved it had been, for Fotharym could raise a plant from a seed to a strong thing of virtue, and she could recite the deeds of the Great Crow. She knew the tales of Fythagyna, the ways that shamans of old brought the virtue of herbs into the bodies of man. A long line of teachers and students, preserving ancient knowledge in the most unlikely of places. She knew the names of the greatest ancient Kings, the story of the Death of Xohyr, of the Queen's Thousand and One Wives, of the Mad Smith who stole iron from the spirits. She knew the transmutation of charcoal, clay and filth into good soil. She knew all of this, and more, and she would teach it to her child, or her apprentice, and the knowledge would pass down the ages, preserved from the great fire that had sought to burn the world.

For that was the Old Way, and as a priestess, she would carry out her sacred duty. Crow look favorably upon her.

Note: we've had isolated hinterlands for how long now? There's no doubt in my mind that there's at least one self sufficient village in Kyberia full of pagan holdouts that literally has no clue about stuff outside. But what they do have is oral history, and oral history is actually really good at maintaining continuity of knowledge when it's done right. So some OYE priest in the days of the great horde or before ran away to the steppe and founded a village and it's been there ever since. And if we ever get rid of isolated hinterlands they'll either share their wackass ancient knowledge or get executed because HURR DURR PAGANS R BAD or something
 
DocMatoi said:
Note: we've had isolated hinterlands for how long now? There's no doubt in my mind that there's at least one self sufficient village in Kyberia full of pagan holdouts that literally has no clue about stuff outside. But what they do have is oral history, and oral history is actually really good at maintaining continuity of knowledge when it's done right. So some OYE priest in the days of the great horde or before ran away to the steppe and founded a village and it's been there ever since. And if we ever get rid of isolated hinterlands they'll either share their wackass ancient knowledge or get executed because HURR DURR PAGANS R BAD or something
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We've only had Isolate Hinterlands since 1816 or so. While there is very likely to be a divergence in language and culture, it won't be a radically different change. And if anything, we are more likely to have discovered villages descended from the OYE in the earlier settlement period, not the later Kyberian settlments.
 
Also the way our religion is set up and the cultural precedent we set up when concerning religion will not lead lead to executing pagan worshippers but more likely lead to religious debates with a side order of martial arts matches.

Religious scholars are kind of the current Ymaryn's thing after all.
 
Mannan said:
Also the way our religion is set up and the cultural precedent we set up when concerning religion will not lead lead to executing pagan worshippers but more likely lead to religious debates with a side order of martial arts matches.

Religious scholars are kind of the current Ymaryn's thing after all.
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If they decide to be rude there may be rap battles.
 
DocMatoi said:
Note: we've had isolated hinterlands for how long now? There's no doubt in my mind that there's at least one self sufficient village in Kyberia full of pagan holdouts that literally has no clue about stuff outside. But what they do have is oral history, and oral history is actually really good at maintaining continuity of knowledge when it's done right. So some OYE priest in the days of the great horde or before ran away to the steppe and founded a village and it's been there ever since. And if we ever get rid of isolated hinterlands they'll either share their wackass ancient knowledge or get executed because HURR DURR PAGANS R BAD or something
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Sadly, I actually checked to see if something like this happened, and it in fact didn't pan out.
 
@Academia Nut are there any wacky myths known the world over? Like a fountain of youth, golden cities, lost continents, mass flood, phoenix.

Actually the flood myth, and Babel tower, doesn't exist, does it?
 
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