Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)

League of Alterac sounds good to me...League of Grond... League of Blades... Honor League... Sure-Fire Pure-Fire League... Dunno. Do agree with the need to make ourselves distinct from the horde.
 
Still whatever it is Grok will need to sell it to his warband that is part of the horde.

You could take the Legion title too and make it I dunno the Iron Legion/Steel Legion or some such as to give a distinction between the civilian side and the military side.

Blazing Blade Legion?
 
Not the best idea to use legion, because you know, the burning legion is almost as bad as the horde and we are already the burning blade.
 
Not the best idea to use legion, because you know, the burning legion is almost as bad as the horde and we are already the burning blade.
Legion can be used differently thanks to the name.

Imitation is a form of flattery and if it takes a legion to beat another one which is instead organised in a parody of one I'm for it.
 
Nope, anything with Legion means a direct reference to the one and only, the most famous, the most Orc-commanding one: the BUrNiNg LeGiOn of demons.
Good luck convincing any humans (like, you know, the inhabitants of Alterac. Or your neighbors in the Alliance. Or the Scarlets) of your good intentions after that.

Somethings cannot be helped, like the Demonsword clan under Haomarush: now they follow Grok'mash but ofc they won't change their name (unless they got absorbed in the Burning Blade? I am not sure of how a Mak'gora works). Others, however, can be avoided.
 
Nope, anything with Legion means a direct reference to the one and only, the most famous, the most Orc-commanding one: the BUrNiNg LeGiOn of demons.
Good luck convincing any humans (like, you know, the inhabitants of Alterac. Or your neighbors in the Alliance. Or the Scarlets) of your good intentions after that.

Somethings cannot be helped, like the Demonsword clan under Haomarush: now they follow Grok'mash but ofc they won't change their name (unless they got absorbed in the Burning Blade? I am not sure of how a Mak'gora works). Others, however, can be avoided.
What is the meaning of a legion?

It means many and instead of a horde it sounds less barbaric.

Switch the adjective and we can get something with it.

Though with the way Danrothan is going I think he might find it funny to start a Scarlet Legion.

What do you know he already did it.
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Crimson Legion

The Crimson Legion was an elite group within the Scarlet Crusade, led by Grand Crusader Dathrohan, whose members could be found in strongholds and areas around the Eastern and Western Plaguelands as well as in the human controlled side of Stratholme. Members of the Crimson Legion were...
 
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Legion can be used differently thanks to the name.

Imitation is a form of flattery and if it takes a legion to beat another one which is instead organised in a parody of one I'm for it.
Gonna pass on that. It too much like germany using some of the natzi nomeclature because it technically can be a different context. Yeah it could be done but i rather not.
 
What is the meaning of a legion?

It means many and instead of a horde it sounds less barbaric.

Switch the adjective and we can get something with it.

Though with the way Danrothan is going I think he might find it funny to start a Scarlet Legion.

What do you know he already did it.
wowpedia.fandom.com

Crimson Legion

The Crimson Legion was an elite group within the Scarlet Crusade, led by Grand Crusader Dathrohan, whose members could be found in strongholds and areas around the Eastern and Western Plaguelands as well as in the human controlled side of Stratholme. Members of the Crimson Legion were...
yes but saidan isn't trying to be sutble he called his group the scarlet crusade gee wonder where he got that idea from because he doesn't need to be cause no one would expect him of being a legion puppet cause his a hero (side note the real saidan was a paladin right so how did bal get away with not using the light) and he has no real political rivals
 
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yes but saidan isn't trying to be sutble he called his group the scarlet crusade gee wonder where he got that idea from
The burning crusade by Sargeras.

He got it in so no one's going to complain on that when he's too busy doing plenty of annexing they would complain on that one instead.
An Alliance in Tatters!
In a paradox much remarked on in noble courts, the Alliance is stronger than is has been in recent years, yet much weaker too. Of the human kingdoms, not one is ruled by an experienced monarch. Saiden Dathrohan still refuses to produce the 'Scarlet Princess', while Varian Wrynn leads an indolent and pathetic existence while towns openly declare for regional nobles. Alterac is said to have fallen to Orcish invasion, while the ruler of Arathi can only claim to actually rule a third of his kingdom at most. Monsters and rebels crawl over Gilneas, with Kul Tiras perhaps the only kingdom to remain strong, despite the losses of two navies in a decade. The mages of Dalaran are illusive, the Dwarves of Khaz Modan insular. The only recent announcement which might bring joy to some is the announcement of marriage between King Wrynn and the Lady Prestor, who some already call the Queen of Alterac. While positively received, the news has also been remarked upon as merely the joining of two already weak nations, which may not necessarily form a stronger whole. Yet, just as the kingdoms falter, one rises ascendant. The Scarlet Onslaught has expanded, annexing parts of neighbouring kingdoms and extracting punishing treaties with others in return for much needed aid. The work of Dathrohan is at direct odds with the very ideals of the Alliance, yet aid is aid, wherever it may come from.
Because Gork is an Orc, also there's the fact that he is not only doing a army hete but also an state.
Just like a Prussian then.

Makes me want to so much to steal the name and make it cooler.

I would actually if it wasn't for post graduate study.

I'd be stuffing as much legion references to make a much more cooler looking legion.
 
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What is the meaning of a legion?
It means many and instead of a horde it sounds less barbaric.
Switch the adjective and we can get something with it
Final refutation on my part: what you say makes sense in general but what matters is the in-universe meaning. What would be the other peoples' perception? The edginess of saying "we are the new Legion" would not be worthy a -50 to diplomacy and negative developments. Besides, it would force a comparison and a connection when the Burning Blade is still not fully detached from the world-burning demons.

We are still ignorant of what Neeru Feldad has been up to. I still believe there is a non-0% chance of a confrontation such as:
- "Grok'mash, follow my lead... I am your father" *Neeru tending a hand, surrounded by hellish forces that have invaded from a Chaos Rift Portal
- "Noooooo!" *Grok'mash jumping from the cliff and flying away on the wind
 
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Final refutation on my part: what you say makes sense in general but what matters is the in-universe meaning. What would be the other peoples' perception? The edginess of saying "we are the new Legion" would not be worthy a flat -20 to diplomacy and negative developments. Besides, it would force a comparison and a connection when the Burning Blade is still not fully detached from the world-burning demons.

We are still ignorant of what Neeru Feldad has been up to. I still believe there is a non-0% chance of a confrontation such as:
- "Grok'mash, this is the way, follow my lead... I am your father" *Neeru tending a hand, surrounded by hellish forces that have invaded from a Chaos Rift Portal
- "Noooooo!" *Grok'mash jumping from the cliff and flying away on the wind
Just don't use anything related to fire in legion.

Crimson Legion exists and nobody batted an eyelid.

Though that probably is because they're not as familiar with the burning legion rather than the scourge.
 
The crimson legion is also composed of the aliance. Again Gork is an orc, and have a very in universe charged historical connotation.
Its not worth the trouble and there the fact Gork despises the burning legion.
 
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The Crimson Legion / Scarlet Crusade are also not mainly comprised of Orcs. As stated, Orcs have a specific history.
(Yeah, I broke my "final refutation" spiel, I know. I replace it with a new pledge, "I will wait for the questmaster"^^)
 
Just don't use anything related to fire in legion.

Crimson Legion exists and nobody batted an eyelid.

Though that probably is because they're not as familiar with the burning legion rather than the scourge.
or they think no way war hero and founding member of the order of the sliver hand is secretly a dreadlord while most people in the know see orks using legion as see they admit it
 
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or they think no way war hero and founding member of the order of the sliver hand is secretly a dreadlord while most people in the know see orks using legion as see they admit it
I don't think they're that well informed for the majority actually no fantasy internet. If they're night elves sure.

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The Crimson Legion / Scarlet Crusade are also not mainly comprised of Orcs. As stated, Orcs have a specific history.
(Yeah, I broke my "final refutation" spiel, I know. I replace it with a new pledge, "I will wait for the questmaster"^^)
He'd probably say the same thing but.... I'm just so pumped about it I may as well get it out my system and do it with an omake and go Total Legion War. I got a free day tomorrow and I want a Legion of Order launching from space for a counter crusade.
 
side note the real saidan was a paladin right so how did bal get away with not using the light
Well for a start he can either do it secretly, or he might be able to disguise the fel as holy fire.

Primarily though I think he just is very careful when he needs to directly engage. In deployments he attacks with his Red Guards who he has presumably sworn to secrecy.
 
Well for a start he can either do it secretly, or he might be able to disguise the fel as holy fire.

Primarily though I think he just is very careful when he needs to directly engage. In deployments he attacks with his Red Guards who he has presumably sworn to secrecy.
So on the legion thing you don't need to comment on it. Majority rules on it so you don't need to say anything.

I still need to do something with it otherwise I will be staying stuck in my bed fidgeting in my head because I want that scene so damn badly.
 
Well for a start he can either do it secretly, or he might be able to disguise the fel as holy fire.

Primarily though I think he just is very careful when he needs to directly engage. In deployments he attacks with his Red Guards who he has presumably sworn to secrecy.
Well if he is a dreadlord he probably can suppress (not purge) the demonic taint on fell so it do not scream demon when used
 
He did do prayer ceremonies with Fording. One of the things I find interesting is how deeply he can stay in what appears to be consecrated ground.
sir the grand crusader is steeming
yes solider he is steeming of his rightous fury in the name of the holy light
solider- that makes sense
saidan thinks wait that worked
 
He did do prayer ceremonies with Fording. One of the things I find interesting is how deeply he can stay in what appears to be consecrated ground.
Don't know what to say, light resist/cloak artefacts? There's ways to get around it for a time, have pruposefully made holes on the consecrated ground to chill? Something to do with the Arcane? I will go with all of the above really.
 
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