Regardless of your actions — or, rather, inactions
huh... so we would have needed a social action with Steinar to convey the message? good to know, for next time
The Seeress wipes her brow as she drops the thin circle of rune-covered iron into the waiting mouth of a storage spirit. "And there we go, all is right in your world."
ouch, iron, this thing had a lot of power in it.
Wolfwind goes to thank her, only for the storage spirit to start to shiver and quake. Its skin falls off rotting muscle as ice cold fires ignite in its gaze. Its mouth falls open as the stench of death fills the room.
shit, instant daugr kill switch!
Fuck, how many people did he put them into....
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
LICH INCOMING!!! LICH INCOMING!!!!!
...lets hope we can raise her. i mean, revive her, as a living person!
Did he just like, make every spirit in the Hading go berserk? Rage zombie spirits?
nah, its the runed iron coins... either kill then convert or just straight up make a daurgr from the ones its implanted....
The question is what his death curse does
draurgars, looks like..
Better question is, how many does he implanted and where are they?

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With any luck, it wasn't her time and she is only bodily dead.... but... yeah, it definitely wasn't a pleasant death, not to mention the rune coins probably had instructions as well...
or its just the general "daurgrs want the living to die" effect....
 
Also, Knappr, huh? We practically forgot about him after the wrestling match - and that seems to have been a mistake. To think we quasi-nailed Horra in court on the one thing he didn't actually do. I can only imagine how they would have reacted if Drysalt hadn't been specifically namedropped, and then Halla brought up how the troll charging in and getting sun-blade killed.

They knew that happened, and went mentally oh shit because they wouldn't be able to deny it under oath and the whole thing would still make them look suspicious.
 
But yeah, it looks like Horra's death curse was turning everyone he put a bomb into into a Draugr, with a fully intact body rather than the beaten to shit things that it normally takes.

That's gonna be really nasty.

Explains why the Seeress called it "That's insidious", because it hides the actual nasty bit under a bomb!
 
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Definitely. Still, I'm surprised nobody is asking about what the deal is with Hasvir. If he's alive, did he send a puppet in his place? Did someone else pull a trick, with or without his connivance?
No time, if you mean the kill team.
as for the forum... well, we became a biiit hyperfocused on a newer, bigger threat.
But yeah, it looks like Horra's death curse was turning everyone he put a bomb into into a Draugr, with a fully intact body rather than the beaten to shit things that it normally takes.

That's gonna be really nasty.
its worse, Alectai. the bodies doesn't matter.
The Orthstirr though? THAT is gonna be trouble...
 
So that's probably most of Horra's men, Wolfwind junior and maybe some bandits.

Betting these Draugr are gonna be a lot more swole than the one we fought earlier.
 
nah, its the runed iron coins... either kill then convert or just straight up make a daurgr from the ones its implanted....

What runed iron coins?
On the contrary.

He was gored by his own creation.

It's just that the creation was his beloved son who he was raising up to carry the torch after him.

Oh, well, fair enough. It's pretty poetic when you see it in that light. Even if Steinarr was the one that killed him, and not Hasvir.

But yeah, it looks like Horra's death curse was turning everyone he put a bomb into into a Draugr, with a fully intact body rather than the beaten to shit things that it normally takes.

How does that explain the Seeress' spirit?

OH. The bomb. In the spirit. Right. I see. Yikes. Horra really was a bastard, wasn't he?
 
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Yep.

Anyway, now that the feud is over, we can hopefully bury the hatchet in the traditional Viking Way! By teaming up against a mutual threat!
 
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A chance to end the feud? Why yes, yes we will.

So that's probably most of Horra's men, Wolfwind junior and maybe some bandits.

Betting these Draugr are gonna be a lot more swole than the one we fought earlier.

Probably not all of them, and I suspect specifically not Wolfwind's son (or Wolfwind would've grabbed him to come along on his trip with the Seeress), but this does track, yeah.
 
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What runed iron coins?
the bomb, it was circular.
The Seeress wipes her brow as she drops the thin circle of rune-covered iron into the waiting mouth of a storage spirit. "And there we go, all is right in your world."
but yeah, my bad, should have been more on point.

Now, question is...
Was it Viny that got turned, her brothers, the thralls or... all of them? Were the animals also tagged by Horra?
Further questions are...
Can the Daurgar use the coins to make more of themselves?
I can only hope they can be reasoned with but... urgh... Horra is such a fucking bastard.
 
Was it Viny that got turned, her brothers, the thralls or... all of them? Were the animals also tagged by Horra?

I doubt he put them in his actual kids. I somewhat doubt that he put them even in his son-in-law. I think he put them in everyone else he could get away with (so, definitely the thralls, maybe his other subordinates but it may be hit or miss). Maybe including animals, yes.

Can the Daurgar use the coins to make more of themselves?
I can only hope they can be reasoned with but... urgh... Horra is such a fucking bastard.

I think they just start killing everything around them, without intelligence or remorse. Which is an issue, but not one that expands, probably, so no making more of themselves.
 
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I doubt he put them in his actual kids. I somewhat doubt that he put them even in his son-in-law. I think he put them in everyone else he could get away with. Maybe including animals, yes.

I wouldn't be surprised. Given how he seems to only care about his children as far as how useful they were, it seems like something he'd do. Like, 'You're useless to me as a weapon, but as a draugr maybe you'd finally be of some worth to me'. Not sure if Horra is that cold though. I wonder whether his love for Hasvir was actual love, or if he was distraught at Hasvir's apparent death because he lost the weapon he had spent so long moulding to be used against Steinarr.
 
I wouldn't be surprised. Given how he seems to only care about his children as far as how useful they were, it seems like something he'd do. Like, 'You're useless to me as a weapon, but as a draugr maybe you'd finally be of some worth to me'. Not sure if Horra is that cold though. I wonder whether his love for Hasvir was actual love, or if he was distraught at Hasvir's apparent death because he lost the weapon he had spent so long moulding to be used against Steinarr.

Nah, from what Hasvir said he was neglectful of the others rather than cruel to them. There's also all the nid...doing this is nid, doing it to your kids is, like, twenty times as bad nid-wise, so he'd avoid it even if he didn't care emotionally, it's just not worth the cost.

But my key piece of evidence is Wolfwind. He would've brought his son along to have his removed if he had one, and if Horra didn't do this to his son-in-law, he's definitely not doing it to his kids. I suspect even if he didn't care the above mentioned greater nid made it not worth it.
 
Now, i know its still too soon, but something to keep in mind for when we know how many daurgr we need to fight.
They will be undead, and piercing attacks will be next to innefective, if the spirit rotting away is any indication, so the bodies' condition before turning likely don't matter.
What does, though, is their Orthstirr tank, which will be full... perhaps even doubled, depending how thier aspects got affected.
we should also ask Hasvir what hugreidas and tricks should we watch out for, that he knows....
and, most importantly, NOBODY GETS CORNERED. this is important. if it must happen, have at least one other person cover your back.
Perhaps have Aki send for help?
 
As I said, I'm pretty sure that was the deal, Wolfwind gets the bomb in exchange for his son being spared. This was good for Horra so he went through with it, because it meant that he'd get a Steinarr level monster on his side that was further augmented by turning into a fearless killing machine.

Might be why he looked so excited last time we saw him coming back to the Sanctum.

I think his other children probably didn't get the bomb, he doesn't have so much Orthstirr that he can afford the Nid hits of betraying his own children that way. Everyone else is fair game though.
 
So, things we know about Draugr from our previous encounter:

1. Not limited by their hands in using Hugareida, which they can still have and use. Along with other Tricks they knew in life, and retain at least a fair bit of their stats.
2. Draugr do not have Orthstirr. Those raised artificially can use their master's...with Horra dead, that may mean they have none, or are sharing one pool (his entire pool, willed to them), or each have a bit stored in the talisman within them (seems possible), or even have whatever they had immediately before they died (the worst case scenario), but even in that last case they aren't gonna be stoking any Aspects.

Things that were true of the last Draugr that may or may not be true here:

1. Took extra damage from chopping attacks. I think that was a 'this is a skeleton' thing rather than a draugr one.
 
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