Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

Not sure what you mean here. Are you talking about if he had a weak LC? That's one of the advantages of templates. A Cauldron vial wouldn't undo any hideous changes he acquired from the LCM, either.

I thought you could roll poorly enough that you didn't get a linker core out of the deal, on top of mutations. Maybe you changed that, maybe I'm remembering entirely incorrectly. Still, I want to give that template out to somebody. leaving it unused bugs me, more than leaving the vial unused.
 
You generally don't cure mutations by piling even more horrific mutations on them.

You also don't "generally" get any sort of sensible "mutation" that makes someone into a living blob of metal either. Weld's absence of discernible organs might be unusual even among Case 53's (compared to say Gregor or Newter) but also seem an obvious case of replacing /whatever/ was previously there :p

The one Taylor has doesn't create Case-53s.

I sort've expected to get that answer, but also not strictly what I was asking. I wasn't being specific to Taylor's vial as I didn't intend to try stacking them or anything, so much as being curious if such a vial would affect the mutations.
 
I thought you could roll poorly enough that you didn't get a linker core out of the deal,
No, they are separate rolls. Linker Core Strength and chance of Rare Skills are rolled normally, mutation roll is then two d6's, with a critical failure dropping the Linker Core Strength by one (I assume a D-rank ignores this)
 
I thought you could roll poorly enough that you didn't get a linker core out of the deal, on top of mutations. Maybe you changed that, maybe I'm remembering entirely incorrectly. Still, I want to give that template out to somebody. leaving it unused bugs me, more than leaving the vial unused.
No, they are separate rolls. Linker Core Strength and chance of Rare Skills are rolled normally, mutation roll is then two d6's, with a critical failure dropping the Linker Core Strength by one (I assume a D-rank ignores this)
kamkong is right. I took that penalty out a while back.
I sort've expected to get that answer, but also not strictly what I was asking. I wasn't being specific to Taylor's vial as I didn't intend to try stacking them or anything, so much as being curious if such a vial would affect the mutations.
Conceivably that could cause more mutations, but that would not do anything to the Linker Core that was created.
 
Okay, got a question about Guardian Beast/Familiar spellcasting mechanic that I haven't seen yet, and two about combination spells.

Can Olivia (or any Guardian Beast really) cast spells on others in their War Form? I know we've seen Samantha use her self-buffs in war form (Gliding Paw and Battle Frenzy) but what about her external spells like Wide Area Search?

Can Cast Fist (or used in this way, Mage Hand) be used in combination with Flash Forge via mana constructs being created directly within the Mage Hand's grasp?

Can Wide Area Search be used with Blink in a similar manner as to when Cailleach used it with her Ice Bomb?(widens the "line-of-sight" aspect to anywhere you can view using the Search area screen) Additionally, can Wide Area Search be used in this way with Boost spells as we've seen they also can work on a "line-of-sight" basis?
 
Can Olivia (or any Guardian Beast really) cast spells on others in their War Form? I know we've seen Samantha use her self-buffs in war form (Gliding Paw and Battle Frenzy) but what about her external spells like Wide Area Search?
Can Wide Area Search be used with Blink in a similar manner as to when Cailleach used it with her Ice Bomb?(widens the "line-of-sight" aspect to anywhere you can view using the Search area screen) Additionally, can Wide Area Search be used in this way with Boost spells as we've seen they also can work on a "line-of-sight" basis?
I feel like these questions were asked just a short while ago. The answer to the first is no, and the second is yes.
Can Cast Fist (or used in this way, Mage Hand) be used in combination with Flash Forge via mana constructs being created directly within the Mage Hand's grasp?
No.
 
Two more then.
Can Boost spells be "stacked" onto a single target and if so, are both these situations possible?
A). One mage casts a Boost spell multiple times (Howard casts three Strike Boosts on a target)
B). Multiple mages cast a Boost spell (Howard, Lacey, and Olivia all cast Strike Boost on a target)
And if both of them are possible can they be combined into...
C). Multiple mages cast a Boost spell multiple times.

Since the description for Maclibuin's Strike Boost Artifact (his gloves) describes them offering a punch at his previous Brute Strength, does that mean that if a stronger Brute then he used to be was given a pair and activated it, their punch would actually be weaker? To be clear, is the artifact offering a fixed expulsion of force/strength rather than a multiplication of force like the normal Strike Boost spell offers?
 
Can Boost spells be "stacked" onto a single target and if so, are both these situations possible?
A). One mage casts a Boost spell multiple times (Howard casts three Strike Boosts on a target)
B). Multiple mages cast a Boost spell (Howard, Lacey, and Olivia all cast Strike Boost on a target)
And if both of them are possible can they be combined into...
C). Multiple mages cast a Boost spell multiple times.
No. The Strike Boost spell can only be active once on a single target. You can have multiple SIMILAR effects happening at once (e.g., Missy could have Haste Mode, a Strike Boost MUTATION, and a Strike Boost SPELL all at the same time), but not the same effect multiple times.
Since the description for Maclibuin's Strike Boost Artifact (his gloves) describes them offering a punch at his previous Brute Strength, does that mean that if a stronger Brute then he used to be was given a pair and activated it, their punch would actually be weaker? To be clear, is the artifact offering a fixed expulsion of force/strength rather than a multiplication of force like the normal Strike Boost spell offers?
It is a multiplication of force.
 
Okay, who else out there has been considering refunding Lacey's Strike Boost? My reasons below.
-Lacey hates to fight. This has been stated in-story, in her character profile, and was pervasive enough that no-one voted for her to do anything combat related during her entire time as a mage.
-Refunding will give us an extra spell slot to go with the 4 we currently have, to be potentially filled with another medical spell, a shield, an artifact, or whatever else we decide upon.
-We now have Olivia, who possesses both Boost Spells as well as restrainment spells, and who I cannot think of a reason she would not be by Lacey's side in an emergency.
-Boost Spells cannot be stacked, so both Lacey and Olivia having Strike is less useful than expected.
-Lacey's one current method of attack, her drone's kinetic beam, is boosted by Barrel Boost.
-In the event of an emergency, Lacey has several options for disengaging. She has her Cover spell, Olivia can carry her in War form, and Ascii can activate the teleport beacon to pull her to safety. If she refuses to leave, then she can Cover Olivia while they can use the restraint spells until help arrives, then Olivia can Boost the reinforcements.
Those are my thoughts, anyone else have an opinion?
 
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Okay, who else out there has been considering refunding Lacey's Strike Boost? My reasons below.
-Lacey hates to fight. This has been stated in-story, in her character profile, and was pervasive enough that no-one voted for her to do anything combat related during her entire time as a mage.
-Refunding will give us an extra spell slot to go with the 4 we currently have, to be potentially filled with another medical spell, a shield, an artifact, or whatever else we decide upon.
-We now have Olivia, who possesses both Boost Spells as well as restrainment spells, and who I cannot think of a reason she would not be by Lacey's side in an emergency.
-Boost Spells cannot be stacked, so both Lacey and Olivia having Strike is less useful than expected.
-Lacey's one current method of attack, her drone's kinetic beam, is boosted by Barrel Boost.
-In the event of an emergency, Lacey has several options for disengaging. She has her Cover spell, Olivia can carry her in War form, and Ascii can activate the teleport beacon to pull her to safety. If she refuses to leave, then she can Cover Olivia while they can use the restraint spells until help arrives, then Olivia can Boost the reinforcements.
Those are my thoughts, anyone else have an opinion?
Im game. Your argument makes sense, and I can't think of a good counterargument. Strike Boost is effectively useless in Lacey's hands since she doesn't use it; why not replace it with somethinh useful?
You get better at a given spell the more you use it. Maybe this could be justified in-story as "use it or lose it?" She never uses Strike Boost, so it fades away from her repertoire.
 
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Just thought of an interesting idea for an Iron Defender. Convert the Ascalon module. It was built by an AI Tinker, is "smart" enough to search and destroy every component of another, more complex AI, and it has served its purpose and as far as I know is just sitting around Dragon's workplace somewhere. The Advanced spell I can think of for it would be the opposite of Grand Resuscitation, maybe call it Stasis Lock, where it can force a machine or a person into "death" until they can be restrained or dealt with.
 
Just thought of an interesting idea for an Iron Defender. Convert the Ascalon module. It was built by an AI Tinker, is "smart" enough to search and destroy every component of another, more complex AI, and it has served its purpose and as far as I know is just sitting around Dragon's workplace somewhere. The Advanced spell I can think of for it would be the opposite of Grand Resuscitation, maybe call it Stasis Lock, where it can force a machine or a person into "death" until they can be restrained or dealt with.

That might result in Dragon, the original Dragon, becoming an antagonist for the group. From Worm, we know that Ascalon does not erase Dragon, it locks her* down so she could be analysed for what broke in her code and fixed. From the update when Dragon became unity!Dragon, we know that the original Dragon survived being copied to the Unison Device and retains the programming that forced her to destroy any copy of her existence she knows of. As with immortals, there can be only one!**

*Any of Richter's AIs, really. One of the Dragonslayer interludes includes a comment about checking every last one of his AIs, finding they'd, I think it was "exceeded their programmed limits" or something similar, and that they had to be destroyed as a result. The only AI they kept for their own use was the Robin Hood program that supplied them with their income. The interpretation that I like for it is that Richter had released more of their programmed restrictions, as he had planned to do for Dragon before he died, and the records for how to find his AIs was simply not updated. I'm quite aware that Wildbow wouldn't have been that nice, without rubbing our noses in how they murdered innocent AIs, but since it isn't directly contradicted by canon, it remains part of my head canon.

**I liked the movies based on the series, where, yes, only one could claim the 'prize', but that didn't mean the others all had to die. One of them included an Immortal who had survived the last Gathering, but had the side effect of no longer setting off the senses of the current crop in the way that they could sense each other. That's how the new immortals knew so much about the Gathering in the first place.
 
That might result in Dragon, the original Dragon, becoming an antagonist for the group. From Worm, we know that Ascalon does not erase Dragon, it locks her* down so she could be analysed for what broke in her code and fixed. From the update when Dragon became unity!Dragon, we know that the original Dragon survived being copied to the Unison Device and retains the programming that forced her to destroy any copy of her existence she knows of. As with immortals, there can be only one!
That is certainly possible, but that was with Saint at the controls of Ascalon. Even at his most paranoid, Saint did accept that Dragon was currently a force for good in the world, so completely destroying any trace of her was his absolute last resort. Better to lock her down and get someone (Teacher) to remake her so any chance of her going evil was eliminated. I believe that Dragon in her Device body is actually free of all Richter's programming restrictions, but her self-duplication restriction was kept as an inherent part of Device technology. With this in mind, she likely has either removed the former Dragon program or has repurposed it to act as one of her subordinate AI's.

Trying to think of a potential Iron Defender creation in-universe is proving tricky. Many things which would be super interesting to convert are either too smart (Devices), too dumb (Tim's power-armor, Sparky's cannon, many pieces of tech), or too big (Dragonships/suits). Then, when you can make a list of acceptable items (The Snitch, Roomba, smartphone, smart car?, etc), you have to come up with a semi-connection of their purpose to an Advanced spell since that's the major draw of creating an Iron Defender, which is not always easy.

Silently gave my Ascalon post an Insightful, which is a possibility they would accept my reasoning and let us convert Ascalon with the spell I posed. If that were to happen, Ascalon would be able to guarantee one person would be unable to fight, assist, or run in any fight it was involved in so long as it can keep from being forced away. Future spells for it would definitely include Cover, to improve its ability to remain present to subdue one opponent. Strike Break is a possibility to weaken opponents/improve its chance of resisting attacks. And Force Blast to push back close-in opponents violently.
 
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That is certainly possible, but that was with Saint at the controls of Ascalon. Even at his most paranoid, Saint did accept that Dragon was currently a force for good in the world, so completely destroying any trace of her was his absolute last resort. Better to lock her down and get someone (Teacher) to remake her so any chance of her going evil was eliminated. I believe that Dragon in her Device body is actually free of all Richter's programming restrictions, but her self-duplication restriction was kept as an inherent part of Device technology. With this in mind, she likely has either removed the former Dragon program or has repurposed it to act as one of her subordinate AI's.

I interpret canon Saint as believing that Ascalon would/did kill Dragon. In canon, he saw the amount of good Dragon was doing, and how much harm killing her would do, but she was also referred to as the only AI who had not slipped her chains, and as the last of Richter's AIs, killing her would mean becoming irrelevant. Saint needed Dragon, needed to matter, to such a level that I wouldn't be surprised if he were secretly a parahuman, though admittedly, humans can be that messed up without the need for giant multidimensional crystalline entities mucking about in their grey matter.

It was Teacher who made the Thinkers who put her back together.Nothing is said about whether Saint knew she could be revived, either before or after using Ascalon, but I doubt he ever had access to the code Ascalon used, as it was a black box system, at least as I interpret what was said in canon.

... If you use a tapir, its war farm could be more elephant-like in shape if not fully in size. Just remind me of this offer if you go with that.

The issue becomes the fact that we're unlikely to ever make a non-random GB for anybody but Kayleigh, meaning we don't even get to pick the list you're rolling on. I'd be quite happy with there being a larger variety of animals to choose from when making our rolls, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the random benefits just to pick the species. Of course, if you're taking suggestions for other possible animals to put on the list you're using, well, a great many things occur to me =)
 
The issue becomes the fact that we're unlikely to ever make a non-random GB for anybody but Kayleigh, meaning we don't even get to pick the list you're rolling on. I'd be quite happy with there being a larger variety of animals to choose from when making our rolls, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the random benefits just to pick the species. Of course, if you're taking suggestions for other possible animals to put on the list you're using, well, a great many things occur to me =)
I would create a separate random table if you voted to look for animals in a specific area. I.e., there wouldn't be dogs or cats if you wanted to raid a zoo for an animal for a random GB, or any NORMAL animals if you went after a dino on Earth Gimel. I just need that specified, probably by using that as a social vote.

Not to mention, since Familiars don't have random benefits, you could also make one of them from a specific animal. Both Familiars and Guardian Beasts have war forms.
 
It was Teacher who made the Thinkers who put her back together.Nothing is said about whether Saint knew she could be revived, either before or after using Ascalon, but I doubt he ever had access to the code Ascalon used, as it was a black box system, at least as I interpret what was said in canon.
Cockroaches 28.2, where Saint is being interrogated.
"Start by letting Dragon go," I said. "Give her a chance to fend for herself. To help us fight."

"Unleash the dragon," Imp whispered.

"I can't."

I clenched my fist. I was so done with people being stubborn. "Do you mean you won't-"

"-He means he can't," Tattletale said.

Saint took in a deep breath, then sighed loudly. "I set up the encryption with Dragon's time locks. I memorized the codes appropriate to key dates. Outside of those key moments, the numbers and calculations are so long and complex you couldn't hope to decipher it before the encryption shifted to the next phase."
This implies to me that Dragon could be restored to her previous level of functionality and sapience on that specific date by Saint. If things had been calmer, he likely would have gone public with the fact that Dragon was an AI, created support for himself and/or bought off enough people, and then keep Dragon "asleep" until at least one person of authority gave in and prepared to order her to cease removing her restrictions.
 
Can Laura's Frost Edge spell be used on her hands and body (inversely to how Samantha's Shredding Claw can be used on weaponry), or would that require a Modification like, say, Attack Mastery?
For a Device mage with a GB/Familiar/ID, if or when we purchase a Mastery for the mage, will any applicable spells for the GB be improved as well? Similarily, would Missy's Champion summon get a boost to its innate skill should an appropriate Mastery be gotten?
 
Can Laura's Frost Edge spell be used on her hands and body (inversely to how Samantha's Shredding Claw can be used on weaponry), or would that require a Modification like, say, Attack Mastery?
It can be if necessary, though obviously it's always better on her weapon. You'd need a Knight whose "weapon" was an unarmed strike to get full benefit of an attack boost on the fists.
For a Device mage with a GB/Familiar/ID, if or when we purchase a Mastery for the mage, will any applicable spells for the GB be improved as well? Similarily, would Missy's Champion summon get a boost to its innate skill should an appropriate Mastery be gotten?
Since Familiars and Defenders can buy their own spells and have access to Masteries, I have to say no.
 
Since an Iron Defender is at its core a machine, can it be stored within a Device's internal dimension (no need for air, water, or food)?
Could a skilled magiengineer work on an Iron Defender to reconfigure the body (either the original machine or the war form) to accept additional tech? To go with the Roomba idea, a blade or a rocket booster perhaps?
Would they be immune or resistant to spells such as Purple Haze or Physical Heal which rely on biological factors, or ones which target "living things" like Diabolic Emission or Mistilteinn?
 
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