Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
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Always Late
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The album's image is incorrect/inconsistent then. Remember The Book Of Darkness Incident? That wrecked the city, and the people within weren't utterly massacred or suffered from long fall-related deaths like you've claimed would happen. Thus, no collateral damage, either in lives or buildings.
So because I've not written omakes, I can't point out to other people that they haven't written omakes?
Thats like saying 'because you don't have a driver's license, you're incapable of telling whether or not a person's fit to drive'.
Great, awesome. More omakes are always fun to read, and seeing people put omake train logic into action is a very refreshing change of pace.
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[X] Recursion Field.
That was brought up, but I forget what the answer to is. I'll try to hunt it down.
1st Context always matters.
2nd... even those with licences sometimes can't tell if someone else if fit to rive or not. So yes.
zero_traveler
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The Canon explanation, that was posted over in MGLT.
A Magic that allows the Spell Caster to create "a zone where only people who the caster allows or those who have the ability to enter the Field can exist". Those who are not allowed to enter can "be" in the same area, but are unable to sense what is done by the Caster within the Field, and thus will not take any direct effects from any damage done within the Field. Whatever destruction that had been done within the Field will appear as already been done at the time the Field is dropped. For example, the Damaged Wall of Makihara Animal Hospital will appear in their broken state when the Field drops.
I didn't like this explanation either, but it's hard to argue with it.
I couldn't find any outright quotes about it, but this was answered here:
Quickshot0 said:
Not sure where green looked it up though, but... *Shrug* I can't find anything else really and this implies the information is out there... somewhere.green-link94 said:
Little late to the party (already posted that), thanks though.
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*shakes fist at you* Jerk!
...Damnit, I was holding out for a write-in chance to go balls-to-the-wall, zenryoku zenkai on the crystal turkey.
Hovering high in the sky over Brockton Bay, rage burning in my heart, the sun at my back, the very atmosphere a lens for my use... "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PISS OFF A WITCH, BITCH! SOLAR WRAAAATH!!!"
*edited for actually buster spell name. when i first typed this out, i had it as SUNLIGHT BREAKER, lol*
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Always Late
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You wish to apply context to this argument. Fine, let's lay the all facts out:
I have not written any omakes for MGET.
You have not written omakes for MGET.
Jboone has not written omakes for MGET.
You and Jboone stated that Solar Wrath's current lethality-only state can be fixed by using omakes.
Neither you nor Jboone have written omakes previously, and at the time expressed no intent in doing so.
That is the context.
So, I criticized you two's plan for boiling down to hoping other people did the work.
I cannot find your quoted stuff in this quest or the SB version. What's the name of the thread you got those from, and which forum?
EDIT: Actually, better idea. Let's ask the people themselves.
@Quickshot0, @green-link94, is the above quotes from each of you accurate? Green-link94, what was your source for your information?
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You never actually read the title of the thread I was referring to fully, did you? Magical Girl Lyrical Taylor (Worm/Nanoha) not Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
Always Late
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... Hell, I even rated your mention of that thread's translations 'informative'! You're right, I totally dropped the ball.
Time for more coffee.
*Amused* Well, if you want to go straight to the translated stuff Nanoha Series magic dictionaries(The translated entries have been updated) that has its own thread. Its full of Imgur albums though, so loading could be an issue.... Hell, I even rated your mention of that thread's translations 'informative'! You're right, I totally dropped the ball.
Time for more coffee.
Wasn't there WOG saying that if Phir Se could have dropped another laser-nuke on Behemoth that would seriously injure/cripple the Endbringer?
[X] Recursion Field
Here's to dropping casualties-reducing Shaker effects that may allow a more 'weapons-free' environment. Also, really tempted to get Big Guns.
I could not find such a WoG.
[X] Solar Wrath.
Silently Watches
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That makes absolutely no sense considering the destruction that happened in A's during the battle with Nachtwal. If green is right and the TSAB had to do repairs afterwards… um, did they just expect no one to notice that the city blew up without anyone knowing about it? Hell, or the broken buildings and stuff just from Fate and Nanoha's fights against the Wolkenritter. For an organization that has a Prime Directive–like philosophy towards non-magic worlds, that seems like pretty blatant evidence that something weird's going on. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure the thing with the animal hospital happened when there wasn't a dimensional barrier up.
I'll have to watch the second episode of Nanoha and the last episode of A's again and see if it's mentioned, but unless it's made very clear in-show that dimensional barriers don't prevent damage from spilling over into the real world once they fall, we're disregarding that translation and going with how they're portrayed in the series.
There's also one of the movies when Nanoha fired down at the city and turned it into a bay? I think? Even if it's alternate timeline or something the mechanics of the spell should be the same. *Shrug*
Silently Watches
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I've watched those two episodes. After the fight with Nachtwal, the city immediately looks undamaged, and in the first season, there was no barrier in place when the shrubbery-thing attacked the vet clinic. Between that and the first movie where Starlight Breaker absolutely demolished the coastline and all the buildings on it, I'm going to say that either the entry about dimensional barriers was mistranslated or someone involved in the original dictionary pulled a Rowling and came up with something without thinking about what was already established in the show. We're going to go with what has previously been stated to be Recursion Field's main purpose of eliminating collateral damage.
tl;dr: Any destruction that happens inside Recursion Field is erased when the spell goes down.
tl;dr: Any destruction that happens inside Recursion Field is erased when the spell goes down.
Firedon
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Bit late maybe, but even without omakes we can train spells and getting it earlier gives us more opportunities to do that. I can't really think of a situation where your argument of it being lethal-only right now wouldn't apply.
Edit: And small point on needing 6 points to master that I think
Reedit: My bad, landcollector brought that one up.
We are not "more likely" to get any spell anymore, since we now have fixed skill trees we're choosing from.
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Always Late
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Say we do take it. Between then and the training session where the non-lethal ability is unlocked, any fight were we use it. Which given the sentiments of those supporting Solar Wrath, would be very often. That is the situation you fail to see. We don't need to cause more innocent death and destruction than Lung. If the point to unlock the non-lethal version was given from an omake and applied before we had any opportunity to get into a fight, then my concerns would be allayed. But that's not likely to happen because quality writing is rarely fast writing.
zero_traveler
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Movies are Explicitly In-Universe TSAB Propaganda Videos. You can't rely on that Narrator when it comes to Over the Top stuff like that.
Always Late
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Citation? I mean, that explains the discrepancies, but I don't think I've ever seen a franchise handle its season-summary movies like that.
Firedon
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Okay, that concern I can see. I guess I just have a bit more faith in the questers that when actually presented with a scenario in which we have the choice between lethal SW to accomplish something or nonlethal workaround, they won't just make Taylor a killer willy nilly.
zero_traveler
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Taken from the Wikia, but gimme a minute to search a bit more.
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st
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Except the film (at least the combat parts) is accurate enough to be used as training films for mages in training. At least from the Sound Stages talk about it by the characters.