Always Late
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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
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rofl: Nice one Land.
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...So people are voting for dakka now even though it would lead to immense collateral damage instead of getting the one thing that wouldn't make it a problem... Seriously why can't it freaking wait?
Recursion Field would make going full power a non issue. Seriously why the hell can't it wait? We probably aren't going to get the option again for a while, meanwhile we get it now and we can just pick all the dakka options afterwads since we can use it without worry.
Recursion Field would make going full power a non issue. Seriously why the hell can't it wait? We probably aren't going to get the option again for a while, meanwhile we get it now and we can just pick all the dakka options afterwads since we can use it without worry.
We've been caught in a situation where we needed it and didn't have it. As an option Solar bombardment is better to have and not need it than need it and not have it.
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I really don't care. Better we have the dakka now rather than later when Taylor gets into a situation where dakka can be very useful (e.g. S9, Nilbog, Endbringers (Taylor will still take part in Endbringer fights if I have any say about it), Mord Nu Nag, Lung, etc.).
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Knight-Radiant
Recovering Rageaholic
[X] Solar Wrath
Why in the world would we be taking on Moord Nag at any point in the foreseeable future?
Always Late
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Because people think they can brute-force their way to victory without using any form of creativity or thinking.
Problem: If you think SV has the self-control to not apply a WMD to a situation that doesn't require it, you haven't been on this site long.
Then why the hell are you here?
Taylor's not going to be hit by those until way later, so your 'logic' is nothing but an empty, flimsy justification for you wanting to go after aforementioned enemies like a reckless fool.
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Again people are forgetting the issue that we can't use high level spells without causing massive amounts of collateral damage unless we get a spell speicfically to prevent that. Seriously if we do end up needing to use something that caused massive collateral damage it is going to cause a ton of issues.
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Because Taylor is a hero and with great power means taking on greater threats. Otherwise, what is THE DAMN POINT of having such great powers?
The Stormbringer
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Why can't it wait? Why can't it wait? This is the exact same argument that was used THE FIRST TIME IT WAS AVAILABLE.
Guess what? We had a moment where it would've been EXTREMELY useful just now. An Endbringer fight, no less! The longer you put it off, the more situations where it'll be acceptable and helpful pop up and are promptly ignored because we don't have it.
Yes, Recursion Field is good, and yes, there's the chance for high collateral damage, but in some situations collateral damage is preferable to letting the enemy live.
Uhh, guys. Unless Recursion Field is very different from a normal Bounded Field, its not going to prevent collateral. That's a very specific point on them, they don't stop environmental damage. Though they do keep people out of the fighting arena.
And this is stuff translated from official sources over on the SB thread of Magical Girl Lyrical Taylor, so you can argue with the creators of the series over this if you want to.
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And this is stuff translated from official sources over on the SB thread of Magical Girl Lyrical Taylor, so you can argue with the creators of the series over this if you want to.
[X] Solar Wrath
Solar Wrath would have done nothing of any lasting consequence to an Endbringer. Remember Phir Se's fuck-off beam attack? No damage to Behemoth's inner layers and he was regenning the damage it did to his outer layers.
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Flare shooter started out as lethal but we fixed that with training. If we have to we just omake train until it has a non-lethal level setting.
The Stormbringer
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Maybe, but it also could've been used to stop the device without the need for an Alexandria dive-bomb, and considering how nuts the strength of Nanoha-based attacks can get, it should eventually be able to do a lot more damage with more control to boot.
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Thing is we are far more likely to get spell that woul give us more dakka afterwards while getting the field is a lot less likely to come up. And fighting something like an Endbringer is way less likely to come up especially so soon since I doubt the QM is the kind to do that kind of stuff.
Yes. That's kind of why it wasn't prioritized. At basic level of mastery it would have annoyed the Endbringer at most to encourage it to prioritize us.
It's not something we can apply in the aftermath of an Endbringer battle either, unless you're buying spells now for events three months later.
The Stormbringer
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@Silently Watches QM, can you chime in on this? Would the Recursion Field prevent collateral/environmental damage from big spells, or no?
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Only one omake had to be used for Flare Shooter. Solar Wrath has six levels.
Also, I should point out, what happens when the field is put down, and someone who was in a tall skyscraper suddenly doesn't have a skyscraper under them anymore? Well, depending on the answer to:
this anyway.
And? That just means we need to work at it more.
Always Late
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You, sir, are either a fool or a liar.
This is Recursion field. Its solely exists to limit collateral damage. It's a significant part of Mage combat.
Big talk from people not putting any work in.
... that's not how Recursion field works. At all. Non-magical people don't get brought into the barrier, and SW has already established what types of capes are trapped/affected by the barrier. You are making this stuff up. Please stop spreading false information.
FFS, did everyone forget the debate we had at the start of the que- oh wait, this is the internet, of course people forgot.
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That was unnecessary and it proves you don't have a counter argument. I also don't see your name on the omake list. But fine, I'll put my money where my mouth is. If Solar Wrath wins, I'll write omakes until we get SW to non-lethal.
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First one in the album.
Pot, kettle. You have no ground to stand on to call anyone else out on that.
Edit: Also, we can train spells IC... I think. Have we done that? I remember it being an option at some point.
Yes, that happens. Quite often in fact, if this has been discussed before then so be it, we'll move on.
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