Hero and Fleur getting revived along with a bunch of other heroes?

Hero maybe. Might be past the resurrect-by date regardless.

Fleur being resurrected would be a bit of shitty fanon, unless the PRT gets it to the point where they're reviving thousands of people every day. She got shot in the head over a fairly stupid political stunt. She's waaaaaaay far back in the list of people to revive, and as she was an Independent the PRT can't claim to be focusing on their own heroes, which would draw innumerable complaints about why she is getting revived over, say, an unpowered police officer who got killed in the line of duty.
 
I kind of want to see Addy in therapy just to see their reactions and analysis on Addy's psyche. Her PoV is very interesting because of how much it differs from the regular Earth Bet inhabitant. I guess the problem with the Heberts is that they don't really know or understand Addy's mentality. So maybe if someone explains to them what is going on inside Addy's head then maybe they'd do a better job at parenting.
 
Okay, that one might be a bit too far, even for Addy. How are you supposed to talk with those in your mouth!? If anything, it'd be tentacle mandibles! It can even hold your drinks for you! Perfect for tinkering. More likely for an extra tentacle arm or tail if they don't wanna replace anything, at least then it looks normal.
Hey, you can have an external tentacle stomach that inverts and engulfs your food for you, so you could eat while you eat.
 
Should she ask why Addy hates them? Yeah, probably. Is there any reason _that she is aware of_ to think that this particular bout of hostility has a good reason for it? Not really.
Addy was not acting out of character when meeting the Triumvirate. Being petty and hostile toward authority figures is very much a pattern, very much 'more of the same' as she acted toward Armsmaster and Piggot (and Kaiser). And Taylor was strongly implied to believe that Addy's head is being messed with by her powers.
When Addy (and everyone thinks has some serious Thinker powers) starts throwing around some pretty damning accusations you should probably just try and listen. Taylor clearly hears her sister accusing Alexandria of being a villain and knows that she resently did an impossible by predicting and Endbringer, she hears that Alexandria answered with actual threats, so why the hell is she so casual about it? This is just bizarre.

Recall that Addy has repeatedly demonstrated irrational/insane ideas of acceptable behavior and responses to unacceptable stuff. Addy complaining that someone is incompetent and/or evil just has ZERO weight to it.From an outside perspective, it's entirely possible that Addy hates them for not having enough cookie vending machines, there being tinker regulations at all, or pre-emptive response to a punishment they're going to assign a year from now. That she thinks they're incompetent because they don't systematically murder villains on the sly. Or haven't already destroyed Nilbog. Or didn't do <insert atrocity here> already.

Remember, Taylor is aware or damn well should be that Addy killed multiple people with her tentacle-cat (due to the Splyce thing), and considered it adorable, and put a lot of effort into destroying Glory Girl's reputation because she attacked the cat. And is very familiar with her attitude toward Armsmaster, among others.

Her first introduction to Addy's tinker-tech included an invention whose side-effects included permanent 'hallucinations, paranoia, delusions' if used for more than half a minute, a tupperware land mine, and Abby setting the kitchen chair on fire.

She's aware that Addy seriously intended to repeatedly torture people to death and thought them surviving that would make it acceptable to Taylor's mom. She's seen a lot of examples of Addy being blatantly wrong in her understanding how other people think and react-- particularly blatant with using arguments/reasoning to try to persuade Taylor/Annette/etc and comes off as horrifying.
So Heberts are probably supposed to seek some way around her obvious issues, pay close attention to everything she says or does for every show of malitious intent of sudden flashes of insight (They do know about her "Precog powers"), have some big talk and brainstorming every time she does yet another horifying shit and at least encorage her to apply her talent for good cause.
You know, in contrast to how they really treat her actions in fic. One need to be a complete moron to think that "Go to your room" would really solve anything in this situation, Espesially if they think that they are not making any progress.
 
Many people both in the story and on this forum and in-universe judge her as if she was a human child in a human society. But the fact is, she isn't - knowing what we know, she is a nascent tinker goddess living among a race doomed to extinction, unless something (her, most likely) stops Scion. And she does not have any obligations towards saving them, especially not with how ruthless Cauldron and humanity in general is acting towards parahumans. Canonically, they shot Taylor for saving them - no gratitude, no monetary compensation. Morality and sanity are both contextual - with how different she is from her surroundings, she is perfectly in her right to have fun and ignore that those soon to be dead men and women around her are saying.
Granted, they do not know that in universe, but realistically, if someone stops a world killing monster, you should get on your knees and start kissing arse, not posture about like the Triumvirate is doing. At the very least they should have hired some people whose only job would be to keep Addy entertained - they know what happens when tinkers get bored.

Also, a lot of people call her insane, but she is thriving, really, and would likely outlive most of the people on Earth Bet with how things are now.
 
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If I were her I'd like renegotiate the contract into more pleasing terms with Lisa Simmy and Danny checking things over before even doing more revival tech or like negotiate some kidna boon . The prt can't even caught on camera about forcing a little girl vista's age into working like some kidna tinker sweat shop .
 
Personally, I'd be chafing hard under that kind of authoritarianism.
And as much as everyone seems to believe that she is some sort of loose canon, she has only broken the rules twice.

Technically once, since Annette had to add a rule for the second instance, but meh.

Also, Addy is physically twelve. Why do they expect a twelve year old to follow the rules and never get into trouble? Especially when the rules don't really have a negative consequence for breaking it, and only make things harder if you stick to it.

Honestly, Addy has been surprisingly tame imo... because she technically doesn't have to follow any rules at all. I mean, can they even punish her if she decides that she is done with the rules? She could tell the PRT that she is Splyce, and at this point they'd have to suck it up because they literally can't do shit to her.

See this is what you get when you don't praise your child enough. Honestly, they grounded and scolded her right after she came back from an Endbringer fight. We can see from Addy's PoV that she doesn't feel appreciated, which is bad. Yes, keeping her in line is important but there has to be a point where what they do is too much.
Yeah, Addy has been the MVP for a while now, and its high time everyone realized that! :rolleyes:

Jokes aside though, Addy feels kinda pitiful in this chapter... she never really gets the validation she's looking for :V:V
 
In order to survive, Addy needs:
the following people to not be trying to kill her:
1) Simourgh
2) Path to Victory
3) Scion
the following people to like her as much as possible:
1) Reality Lens

From that angle, Addy's behavior is near-optimal. Most of her antics are making Reality Lens to identify with Addy more, it would be rational behavior even, if only it was thought out instead of spontaneous. And whose to say that it isn't with how strange her brain is now. She may as well have second invisible personality that is completely rational, guiding her visible part's insanity (much like Unders is doing IRL).
 
This of course isn't healthy behavior, and those therapist sessions don't help when she considers them a waste of time and uses the time space as "complaint time".

Bottom line, the fact that Addy is essentially telling the Simurgh to please kill people in the Endbringer attack so they aren't used as something to bother her shouldn't really come off as shocking, but predictable. Is it good? No. But it's in character.
Actually I think that the Therapist sessions are being really helpful. Yes Addy is always grousing about them, but she does seem to be opening up during them, and I do think they are helping.

The thing with the Simurgh is just asking someone not to drag you into their problems. Yes, Addy doesn't have an empathy horizon beyond sight. Most people care more about their family than a stranger. She's not even talking about 'real' deaths, but potential theoretical deaths that would happen anyway so of course Addy isn't being compassionate about them. Reading the Simurgh in this story pretty clearly shows that she hasn't become 'good' but is still basically operating per original design and if anything slowly learning morality from Addy, who is only slowly learning it from her friends and yes councilor.

Which brings me back around to the fact that while many people may be failing her, the therapist isn't one of them. Addy actually seems to want to talk with them, and while complains about going, when there does talk and such.

Finally,

Good god people, "GIVE THE GIRL AN ICE CREAM VICTORY PARTY!!!!!!!" I mean seriously. You can ground her all you want later, but at the least give her that party, she definitely deserves it and it's all she really wants beyond acknowledgement.
 
Good god people, "GIVE THE GIRL AN ICE CREAM VICTORY PARTY!!!!!!!" I mean seriously. You can ground her all you want later, but at the least give her that party, she definitely deserves it and it's all she really wants beyond acknowledgement.
Naaah, man, why would they do something so wasteful?
It's much better to just bury her under the paperwork and talk about her future as a revival-tech sweatshop!

At this point it feels like the fucking Simurgh is the only one in Addy's corner.
 
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Yes. Why would Dragon, an excellent heroine, want a stingy Tinkering self aggrandizing egotistical brat like you to use your tech for the good people at large?
My thoughts:
She almost certainly had not intended to come across as manipulative and simply was too excited about the possibility of having an Endbringer fight without casualties.
The problem is that it felt like she was trying to pressure Addy into the same arrangement as Panacea. Again, not intentional, maybe.
And we all know how well Panacea's doing these days.
Or maybe I'm just giving Dragon too much credit here and she is in fact secretly Jack Slash.
 
You know some part of me wanted to be sad that the plot only caught up to the PHO chapter, but then I got swept up in the riot that is reading Addy. It's just great. Also poor space pidgeon hasn't realized that she is slowly getting more and more infected by the crazy awesome.

Does dragon cunningly manipulating Addy into a dastardly scheme to commit more violations of the natural order of life and death make her a honorary necromancer? Because with her backup servers I'm pretty sure she'd check all the boxes for dracolich then.
 
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I'll admit the head tilting back to look imploringly at the heavens was a nice touch, definitely makes her seem much more human and much less like an AI pretending to be a human.

That's because she wasn't an AI pretending to be a human imploring the heavens, she was an AI actually imploring the heavens.

Hey Simmy. If people are too stupid to leave next time you attack a city can you vaporise them or something with tinkertech so I don't have to bring them back please?

Ok, what the fuck... tone down a little Abby.
 
If you thing the Simurgh is in any way actually in Addy's corner, you aren't paying close enough attention.
That's why I said "It feels", not "It is". The whole point of emphasizing on the Simurgh is to point out how awful it is that it seems like the only one in Addy's corner is the cold-blooded mind-controlling killerbot who's not actually on her side.

What if she decides that she's fed-up with all those humans who don't appreciate her at all, snaps and sides with the only other being who's at least pretending to be supportive?
 
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Addys reaction to being grounded, at some point she might actually get angry or ignore the family. Taylor and the Hebert family are making a large mistake without understanding it.

I honestly would genuinely enjoy seeing her just stop allowing anyone any authority over her. Mostly, because reading about groundings is every bit as boring as actual groundings.


What you mean is transhumanism, and it is *not* a sign of problems.

Regarding dealing with Addy: I'm reminded of Feint, a character with Oppositional Defiant Disorder from WB's PRT Quest. Addy is vastly more pleasant, but they are similar in that punishment accomplishes nothing. The correct solution here is a) rewards for good things, and just don't react to the bad and b) focus your efforts on redirecting her natural impulses in healthy directions. For example, the best way to keep control of her tinkering would be to have her collaborate with a very diplomatic adult tinker, who can gently nudge her ideas toward sane applications.
 
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