- Location
- Not here. Maybe on SB.
If you can point out where I misrepresented how his power works, I'll make an apology.
I want a refund! (Tinker of Fiction Semi-SI)
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The trick is, if he precogs that you'll shoot him, he can try to stick to precogged timelines where you don't get the chance to shoot him. This isn't perfect, but normally he keeps one of his timelines as risk-free as possible, so that if the risky timeline goes bad, he can stick with the risk-free one. The catch is, since the timelines are precog simulations, it should be possible for a different Thinker shard to cause reality to diverge from the timeline Coil chose to keep. The question is, what happens at that point?, which isn't a question that got answered in canon before he was killed.
One possibility is that he'd remember both simulated timelines, but begin experiencing a third at the point of noticed divergence. Another is that he wouldn't notice until the chosen timeline was supposed to end, at which point he'd experience a discontinuity and find himself abruptly in the real timeline.
One possibility is that he'd remember both simulated timelines, but begin experiencing a third at the point of noticed divergence. Another is that he wouldn't notice until the chosen timeline was supposed to end, at which point he'd experience a discontinuity and find himself abruptly in the real timeline.
- Location
- Somewhere in The Woods
Addy is the Bay's resident tentacle overlord, right? What if, just hear me out, what if she had a tentacle-based shapeshifting power?
I proudly present to you, non-infectious strain of the Blacklight virus from [PROTOTYPE]! The world won't know what hit 'em!
Relatively easy production thanks to her Creation Vats, though the genome rig might need to be adjusted to support RNA.
I proudly present to you, non-infectious strain of the Blacklight virus from [PROTOTYPE]! The world won't know what hit 'em!
Relatively easy production thanks to her Creation Vats, though the genome rig might need to be adjusted to support RNA.
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- Location
- Not here. Maybe on SB.
Well, best way to kill Coil is to have a "Kill Coil" button, that killing him no matter where he is, when pressed.
But your option is good to.
The only possible problem - poison must be delayed, but work quickly, othervise there's a chance that he either will be able to get Panacea's help, or decide to give last "Fuck You All!" and release all his contingences, like Empire identities, bombs and everything else.
- Location
- Neptune
Not as much as the "But HOW does it work?" crowd and their obsessive noise piss him off. Were I in his shoes you bet I would drown them in contradictory explanations.
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Best way to get rid of coil would be to release his info to the empire and tell them about his regular plans and contingency plans! And if possible try to pin the blame on him for the whole "taking gluttenchafts money" thing addie is currently doing...
That wouldn't work, unless his power erased his memory after the simulation, and restored it as he progressed through reality. Because, otherwise, he would get "three bites at the apple", not two.
Suppose he's in a burning room, and there are 3 doors in front of him. One leads to an angry, heavily armed Tattletale. One leads to an angry, heavily armed Regent. And the third one leads to safety. He runs his simulations, opens doors A and B, runs down the long corridors, and gets shot in both timelines. By your theory, both timelines were simulations, and he isn't being puppeted — so, he has no reason not to take Door C to safety instead. And, knowing that the simulations were aborted early, he wouldn't have whipped out his gun to shoot Armsmaster.
The "simulate and autopilot" is a fairly decent way for Wildbow to make Coil's power consistent with his declaration that Shards can't actually reverse time or create & destroy universes. (Because, that would allow them to reverse or ignore entropy, which is supposed to be their ultimate goal — whether or not they are consciously aware of that or not)
It also brings up the interesting possibility — one that I, personally, haven't seen used yet — that Coil's shard might have "blindspots", in the same way that Contessa's does. This fic comes close, in that Coil's shard is able to simulate "something is about to change in a way I can't predict" and does an emergency-abort of the simulation, but I mean a proper blindspot; e.g. if Coil couldn't predict Eidolon, who closes a door in the Rig while visiting, and Coil walks into it on autopilot (because, in the simulation, it was open). Suddenly, he finds himself knocked out of autopilot and "back in time", with a sore nose and a dawning realisation that his power doesn't work how he thought it did.
Thats a large assumption in the first sentence. His power wouldn't have to 'show him both memories' before letting him experience any of it. It simply makes its predictions in Shardspace then lets Coil off on the 'chosen' path while feeding him simulated experiences of the other path.
I'm not saying it works like that, as there is no reason it couldn't just be constantly puppeting him while letting him only see simulations. But letting him 'experience it' while showing simulations of the other path works fine too.
- Location
- At a place near a thing.
Addy: I'm splyce
Piggot: What kind of fool do you take me for? He's Splyce, She's Splyce, Your Splyce, I'm Splyce! Are there any other Splyces I should know about? Catthulu: *meow*
Piggot: I'm outta here.
I can feel Lisa doing a good Ainz impression while screaming internally tbh and given in Addy's pov like she tends to skip his dialogues and impression it may be really frightening on her end. I can't wait on her talking with the Heberts if the PoV reaches that moment and tell 'em what's possibly(cause Negotiator tends to make mistakes still) going on Addy's head.
Unders
Suffers from delusions of competence
It's still non-lethal
Actually with Potions or Taylor's healing magic it won't even be all that permanent.
Nope, since she wouldn't be selling it. Also Addy wouldn't do it for free anyway unless she was doing some sort of PR charity thing or something.
There are some possibilities with trading it to other organisations, though it'd probably be Tattletale who ends up doing it and/or taking point on it. Addy would be more interested in making new things than churning out loads of potions all day long.
So far the only ones that know 'Splice' is a young girl is Coil and Lisa. The PRT are still working under the whole adult man angle. There'll be a couple shocks if/when they see Splyce and her feminine
Yes, but that's more due to a synergy between the alchemist-granted tinker abilities and her own power figuring shit out. In general, if it's chemical tinkering and not too complex Lisa should be able to replicate it. Nuka Cola Quantum, being a mildly radioactive high-energy soft drink is simple enough to do so.
Addy has already dealt serious blows to Coil. One day it might even be on purpose.
Maybe if she ever gets starcraft as a specialty. Neural Resocialisation would do wonders for the merchant membership, and give Addy lots of loyal new minions. It works for the Dominion after all.
She's not going to be happy about them all that much. None of the Tattlesnakes will have parahuman powers, though there's nothing stopping Negotiator from calling dibs and budding onto them.
Her next specialty actually has something that'd help with mass producing stuff for her. Sort of. It'll build stuff she's already made for her, freeing up a lot of her time. It doesn't help with the original issue of Addy needing to spend time to make the stuff in the first place so her new thing can make extras.
I remember when I was young my parents didn't teach me not to do crime. They just told me that if I do I should make sure I wasn't caught.
It's bled through into Addy a bit.
Amusingly Addy's next spec has a whole bunch of options for gifting flight. This next tech tree is even more bullshit than bioshock, and that's saying something.
Yeah it's basically negentropy in ring version. Or in this case pulls zero point energy or whatever from whatever and uses it to fuel all the stuff, because Tinker Magic.
It will certainly be unpleasant, but since this is the FFX/X-2 version it is explicitly non-lethal and cannot actually kill things. No matter how much they wish they were dead.
Nah, the Aeon part comes after making the Blitzball.
Bonesaw is firmly in the enemy column for now. Especially if Addy forgets to solve the whole Mouse Protector thing.
Luckily Scion is ignoring all his calls, so it's not like he'd be warned.
I'm inclined to say no, since it's not rated for crystalline space whale usage.
The whole addicted to a very unstable chemical in order to keep the tinkertech cancer in check is a bit of a downer though, but still Lisa has much better working conditions than she previously had. And magic tinkertech cancer is still better than being dead.
Addy can be pathed, but her own anti-thinker effect and regular contact with Simmy throws it off a little. It helps that Addy is in Brockton Bay, which is a mostly hands-off area for Cauldron at the moment.
She'll inevitably wind up on their radar after Leviathan. If only due to all the 'Magpie Deceased' spam coming over the armbands.
Since due to the vita-chamber making death cheap as fuck, it means I don't have to equip Addy or Taylor with plot armour for the Leviathan fight. Thus I'll end up rolling for them the same way I will everyone else (and generally working my way through the fight round by round). There's a chance Addy will roll well and won't even die once, but then again there's also a chance she'll die enough that she'd be entitled to a free milkshake. It'll depend on the dice really.
The biggest threat during the fight isn't to Addy but is to her Lair, since that's in theDocks splash zone.
The biggest threat during the fight isn't to Addy but is to her Lair, since that's in the
Also the vita-chamber, due to the quantum bullshit going on, rebuilds them with the gemma there as well as all the memories, etc. From Negotiator's end it was essentially as if the signal was cut out briefly but Host is still there now and just the same as when the signal cut out.
Loads of people would. They're one of the more OP aspects of this tech tree, which considering all the Aeons and accessories is saying a lot. I'm looking forward to the Aeons. They'll be loads of fun when I implement them, since almost all of them are going to be Viper/Tattlesnake based. That's the problem with having sapient, free willed minions. Sometimes they invent religion.
There will definitely be some powers offered. Missy won't take any due to PRT fears (Teacher comes to mind), but the others might be more enthusiastic.Addy's next great idea.... offer them powers for their silence.
To be honest the kill order isn't all that scary to Addy. It's not like it'll stick even if they do enforce it. In fact I'm not sure they can even give her a new kill order afterwards since she'd have already been tried and executed for the previous 'crime'.I love this fic so much, Addy is a living meme.
Also, she could probably get that kill-order revoked by agreeing to bring Hero back to life.
A lot of C, a bunch of D but also because while she knows Missy is Vista, Missy doesn't know she knows Missy is Vista. It may have gone differently if she knew that Missy knew that she knew that Missy was Vista, but since Missy doesn't know then Addy didn't see the point of outing her friend, so now nobody aside from Addy and Missy know about Missy being Vista
I'd like to point out that for this fic Coil's power works by doing a simulation and then puppeting him through the simulation while playing it in his head at the same time. This is why Addy's anti-thinker effect when she swaps specs throws him off so much, since his power can't precog what she's going to choose.People talking about Coil said:
That said Addy has a plan to deal with Coil (which will eventually be vetoed and replaced by something both sensible and workable).
But then I'd risk revealing some of Simmy's plans ahead of schedule.
There is however a Reality Lens interlude coming up.
Prototype isn't on the list at the moment. I could add it I guess, but the thing is aside from Blacklight (and other assorted viruses) there isn't really anything that useful to her from a tinker perspective. Unless she want's to out-bonesaw bonesaw of course.
Her stuff isn't really reproducible, it's still blackboxed tinkertech.
She'd probably start as a villain, since with no ID and no money she'd need to steal stuff so she can tinker up a way to get back home. In the absence of Taylor or the rest of her family to provide a solid moral framework Addy's view on hero or villain would boil down to whichever is most convenient for her goals.
I'd like to say she'd beat Batman, but sadly I can't. The guy is scary good at what he does (beating up mentally ill people and throwing them into the asylum).
On the bright side tatt's won't figure out the self insert bit, since for all intents and purposes Addy is Addy now.
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- Location
- The Periphery
True, but there is a problem here. What if Levi destroys the chamber? It's not an adventurous idea, EB do a lot of collateral damage after all.
Unders
Suffers from delusions of competence
Addy's going to have some backup vita-chambers, including one well away from the area. Her goal is to have one at home, one in the Lair and one in a safe location outside the city. Depending on resources and time she might only be able to do a lair one and outside city one by the time Levi hits.
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Definitely would suggest AVOIDING rolling for deaths and the like for the Endbringer fight. But that is just me. I've seen authors try it and others use it, like for Trailblazer, but it honestly is discouraging as hell. Both to the author and the reader.
The Vita Chamber may make death cheap, but it is still limited by ADAM amounts, right?
The biggest issue is just that it can cost you characters you love and would make wonderful plot tools and characters later. But then, with the Vita Chamber, Addy can bring back dead Wards or other heroes easily enough. So yeah, up to you. I just have seen the whole rolling for thing just being... very bad.
Still, looking forward to the future of how you handle things. Especially when Addy Demis the fuck out of Leviathan.
The Vita Chamber may make death cheap, but it is still limited by ADAM amounts, right?
The biggest issue is just that it can cost you characters you love and would make wonderful plot tools and characters later. But then, with the Vita Chamber, Addy can bring back dead Wards or other heroes easily enough. So yeah, up to you. I just have seen the whole rolling for thing just being... very bad.
Still, looking forward to the future of how you handle things. Especially when Addy Demis the fuck out of Leviathan.
Tch the 1.2k word alert...
Im disapinted
...of course batman would win the preptime war right after
Im disapinted
With preptime she can
...of course batman would win the preptime war right after
- Location
- Sea of Quanta
I mean, if she's given proper books and a way to quickly go through them - she can easily fake being a Tinker. Get books that are advanced enough and/or have outside Worm-verse knowledge - she'll probably figure it out and will be able to build something herself. Negotiator might even perk up - new ways to use its powers.
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[INAUDIBLE ANXIETY]
Well, besides the direct organic viral stuff, there's also the tech like the viral sensors and thermobaric tanks. And maybe some of the heavy armor and other gear for lower tech armor solutions.
Edit: ofc that's assuming Addy can think ahead far enough to want viral and anti-viral warfare ready for when the Slaughterhouse 9 come to visit.
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Didn't she implant the sea cucumber to solve that? it produces more than she needs, and gives her a free regen power on top.
Hell, even tats would be fine (if VERY IFFY) with it "Yeah, you are free to go, but due to how i brought you back, you will need this fleshthingy that gives you a brute regeneration to counteract the side-effects of resurrection. probably shouldn't take it out if you dislike magic supercancer, hairloss and insanity. Can you teach me the art of Smug before you go?"
Non-Canon: Terrible influence
Bonesaw: "I'm picking you as my candidate!"
Jack Slash: *stands behind her, smirking like a proud parent*
Addy: *to Simurgh* "Why didn't you warn me?"
Broadcast: [...?]
Jack Slash: *blinks, puzzled*
Simurgh: [Entertainment]
Broadcast: [!?!]
Bonesaw: "We are going to have so much fun togeth-"
Jack Slash: *grabs Bonesaw by the arm and starts walking backwards, looking as if he'd just bit into a lemon* "We are going! Stay away from that girl!"
Bonesaw: "But-"
Jack Slash: "Nope! She would be a terrible influence on you!"
Addy: "Hey!"
Taylor: "... I'm somewhat less surprised than I should be."
Unders
Suffers from delusions of competence
It's not all going to be complete random rolls. Just mostly. Certain characters will have a little bit of...not plot armour per se, but at least a thing where it'll only be gruesome dismemberment/maiming, rather than death.
Pfft 1.2k is not a chapter. It isn't even an appetizer. I might do small omakes, but for proper updates I feel disappointed in myself if it's anything less than 4k. Chapter 6 only barely gets a pass because I needed to split it from chapter 5 for pacing reasons. I feel better doing fewer, but larger updates than multiple but short updates. It makes filling in the plot holes with cement a lot easier.
Yeah Batman is kinda bullshit. Luckily he's a hero, and thus reactionary, so Addy would only have to worry about him after she started committing crimes.
Or she could do the smart thing and just GTFO away from the hellhole that is Gotham city. Then she doesn't have to deal with him at all.
Addy implanted a slug into herself to solve it. Lisa doesn't have a slug yet, and is uncomfortable on the idea. Not entirely sure she'd be able to handle one as she's mostly done growing. I could kinda handwave Taylor getting one since she's definitely not done growing yet. Luckily for Lisa Remedy and/or Esuna can actually fix the problem, so she has options if she decides not to use Bioshock powers.
Magical girl tech. Check. The next one is more bs than Bioshock. Check. It does have many flight options.... it's not Touhou or Nanoga, right? right?
To be fair, this is actually true. The death sentence stops working after your death after all. So the kill order just goes to limbo after being executed. But sadly that will probably only work, like, one to three times. Cuz they will know that she can't be killed and do one of two things. Search why she can't die, maybe even finding the vita chambers (Probably not because Simmie will probably want to troll everyone and block the finding of one) or using lifetime imprisonment on the birdcage or something similar.