7/0 = Paradox.
7/0 = Paradox.
Sadly 17 it's not a multiply of 7 so it doesn't countHmm.
Hey, he's supposed to be 17 at this point in time, so until his birthday, he can use Oramus's Excellency for everything he's involved in!
I thought about the third point, remembered those:This could definitely use some improvements. Some ideas.
1. For what it does right now, the mote cost does seem too high. The cost could be decreased, or if you wanted to go further make it a Permanent Charm, though in that case you're going to want a roll off to see if it succeeds.
2. Should be yards rather than feet, just to be standardized with other Charms regarding distance. Then again, it could be made so distance is irrelevant - it often isn't, when it comes to Oramus.
3. Nothing regarding what happens when the flash of impossible nightmares is given - do they fall to their knees as pain wracks their brain, or what?
Ooooh, I like it! Approved!Insane Graceful Movements is good as is, IMO. Speeches are included in Performance, and we'll be making those aplenty, which means we can use this on entire crowds of people.
Horror And Beauty As One... well, it's powerful, but I just can't really see it as being useful as a permanent effect that makes Insane Graceful Movements better because then you can't use Insane Graceful Movements on most allies - sure, people will revere you, but they'll also be terrified of you, which isn't really the type of image I can see most people wanting to project towards friendlies. It becomes something you'd want to use on enemies exclusively, maybe. Two ways I can see changing this...
1. Make Horror and Beauty as one a supplemental Charm that you can spend an extra mote or two to activate when activating Insane Graceful Movements. This would make it malleable enough to not overly cripple Insane Graceful Movements being useful in many situations. The dual intimacies of reverence and terror are kind of useful when dealing with certain sorts of people.
2. Keep it permanent, but change the duality of the Charm somewhat. When Insane Graceful Movements is used, those witnessing it who are positively predisposed towards the Infernal gain the reverence Intimacy and those who are negatively predisposed the terror Intimacy. For those who don't have an existing positive or negative Intimacy, it would be up to the storyteller to determine which way it goes. I think this might be fitting. Those who love the impossible come to revere it, and those who hate it come to fear it. The fascination and obsession caused by other Charms fit the themes of madness - fascination and obsession both affect other Intimacies in ways that stoke madness.
Two examples from each side of things:
- Lelouch has Dual Gaze Paradox and due to this Shirley has become both fascinated and obsessed with Lelouch on top of being in love with him. She's been stalking him for some time. Unknown to Lelouch, she witnesses him using Insane Graceful Movements a few times and gains a strong Intimacy of reverence towards him as well. Now she sees him not only as a fascinating man who she loves obsessively, but as a god-like figure. She'll do anything he wants, pretty much.
- Two enemies of Lelouch witness him using Insane Graceful Movements. Both become terrified of him. One is weak willed and insignificant, and goes completely mad out of his fear and obsession with Lelouch, self-destructing and being thrown into a mental institution. The other is a Sidereal with significant willpower. He's fascinated, obsessed, and utterly terrified of Lelouch. Because of his terror, he can't operate openly against Lelouch at all for risk of discovery because by the Fates Lelouch is scary and he wouldn't want Lelouch finding out. So he goes into hiding. He operates carefully from behind the scenes, doing everything in his power to avoid discovery. He put all his efforts into destroying Lelouch because he doesn't want to be terrified. Eventually he might get over the terror Intimacy and decide he's been being stupid/crazy, but maybe not. Whether Lelouch can end up dealing with whatever the Sidereal ends up doing or not... *shrug*
Doing it that way would be great for building up a cult and making super loyal allies who think mainly of your needs and wants, but also either drive enemies crazy with fear or make them take secretive actions against you.
Does this mean that Lelouch can, for a scene, become any type of Exalt he wants? I hope soThat's kind of what I though that Glimpsed Through A Warmed Mirror does - temporarily makes you into an alternate reality version of yourself with the correct attributes, abilities, and possibly Charms. (though you'd be without your normal Charms for the duration, of course) It doesn't explicitly say that, but I can't really imagine it being worth 14m, 2wp if it's only an illusion.
Never mind, I found some inspiration from homebrew Hegra Charms. Craft Genesis or something.I can't really comment on this one as I'm not sure what's unbalanced about it, especially given the high cost, aside from maybe the Behemoth summoning.
That would be very helpful.Agreed. Loom-Snarling Deception works functionally like this, and the only advantages this really has is that it costs a lot of Willpower to see through it and that it costs less at low Essence and is free in the Wyld. Ultimately there's no need to take both, and they function too similarly really.
One way to change this would be to make it apply to other people instead. What Is and What Should Never Be affects the perception/awareness of the Infernal, so this could let the Infernal impose an illusory form on others, be they allies or enemies. Maybe targets have to be and stay in (Essence) yards of the Infernal, and outside the Wyld the Charm requires motes to be committed rather than spent so as to maintain an illusion. Maybe max out the number of illusions possible at once to be seven, so you can't just cause infinite illusions when in the Wyld.
Actually Mao is one of the candidates for Scourge. When I said that Exaltation and Geass are incompatible, is that a person can't have both: a person with Geass than Exalt will lose Geass, and an Exalt cannot acquired Geass.Hmmm... wonder who it could be? Can't be someone with a Geass, so Mao is out.
Nina, maybe? It only takes the slightest kindness from Euphemia for her to becomes totally attached to her and revering her as her goddess, but on the flip side she can't seem to let go of her dislike of Elevens due to whatever happened to her to cause that.
The other candidate I might think of is Diethard, given he tends to obsess, but I'm not really sure he's suited to Kimbery.
She may or may not.Hmm.
I wonder if Vilette might not be coming back as a ghost of some sort.
Hi Dawn! Actually this is not my first Exalt Lelouch, but I was inexperienced back then and didn't end well. Now I am experienced enough, and thought that Lulu fits Infernals a lot more.
I thought about the third point, remembered those:
What do you think about making so the target is affected by a Derangement (which is Oramus' stick: seriously, did he create the Limit Break as a rule of nature?), with bonus point value that is equal to or smaller than the amount of Willpower that the Infernal spent to cancel the attack's effects? With Exalts and other beings with a Limit Track it can also add Limit Points. What kind of roll would be required?Words that Twist Like Daggers
Cost: 2m; Mins: Essence 2; Type: Supplemental
Keywords: Combo-OK, Shaping, Sorcerous
Duration: Instant
Prerequisite Charms: None
Those who talk with Oramus do so as gingerly as those who once warred against him, for it is in the nature of the Impossible Dragon to spread madness like the clouds spread rain. A social attack supplemented by this Charm becomes unnatural mental influence. If the target of the Infernal's social attack does not successfully resist the attack, the Infernal may choose to impose a Derangement of the Infernal's choice on the target in addition to any other effects of the successful social attack. This Derangement lasts until the end of the scene. At Essence 4, the Derangement can become permanent as a Desecration effect at the Infernal's discretion if the Infernal successfully attacks the target with this Charm a number of times in the scene equal to the bonus point value of the Derangement in question; the Derangement is still temporarily imposed upon the first successful use of this Charm in a Scene, and subsequent uses simply build towards the Derangement's permanence.
As the Infernal increases in power, this Charm becomes even more fearsome. At permanent Essence 5, the number of successful attacks required to impose a Derangement are halved (rounding down). Finally, at permanent Essence 7, the Charm becomes permanent and automatically supplements all of the Infernal's social attacks at no cost, regardless of whether the Infernal desires this effect or not.
Soothing Balm of Insanity
Cost: 1m; Mins: Essence 2; Type: Reflexive (Step 2)
Keywords: Combo-OK
Duration: Instant
Prerequisite Charms: Words that Twist Like Daggers
The changeability of Oramus' perspective was a byword among his Primordial brethren; he seemed to be a veritable kaleidoscope of madness. The Infernal may activate this Charm in response to any successful social attack or mental influence. The Infernal perfectly parries the successful attack. The Infernal then imposes a Derangement on herself with a bonus point value that is equal to or greater than the amount of Willpower that would have been required to cancel the attack's effects; a Derangement that qualifies as a Deformity will substitute for any amount of Willpower. This Derangement remains for the rest of the Scene. The Infernal cannot impose a Derangement on herself that she already has; if that is the only option, this Charm fails. However, the Infernal can re-impose a Partial Limit Break Virtue Flaw, which then becomes the fully-uncontrolled version.
Does this mean that Lelouch can, for a scene, become any type of Exalt he wants? I hope so
Never mind, I found some inspiration from homebrew Hegra Charms. Craft Genesis or something.
Actually Mao is one of the candidates for Scourge. When I said that Exaltation and Geass are incompatible, is that a person can't have both: a person with Geass than Exalt will lose Geass, and an Exalt cannot acquired Geass.
I would have suggested Abyssal, but I thought you needed a body to do that.And of course there's always something else she could come back as... Abyssal[/url]
. He might still be obsessed for a while though, so if C.C. hangs around us (she might, if only as an opportunity to look for a candidate [mind you, with Lelouch no longer an option she might go for Marianne's other child...]) .
Neat. Could you add a +2m, 1wp surcharge to activate Horror and Beauty as One?@Alexander89 - attempted a rewrite of Horror And Beauty As One based on the idea you approved:
Horror And Beauty As One
Cost: -; Mins: Essence 3; Type: Permanent
Keywords: None
Duration: Permanent
Prerequisite Charms: Insane Graceful Movements
The beauty of Oramus is found in his horror and his horror in his beauty. Those who realize the truth of this mad duality can only feel worshipful awe or unbridled dread. This Charm permanently upgrades Insane Graceful Movements: it causes in those watching an Emotion effect to build an Intimacy towards the Infernal as they see disturbing, uncanny flashes of alien terror and beauty in her movements. For those who are positively predisposed towards the warlock the Intimacy built is one of reverence, and for those negatively predisposed the Initimacy is one of horror. For those affected who have no prior Intimacy towards the Infernal it is up to the storyteller to decide which Intimacy being built is appropriate.
Yes. Still, even as a ghost she could do something...I would have suggested Abyssal, but I thought you needed a body to do that.
Neat. Could you add a +2m, 1wp surcharge to activate Horror and Beauty as One?
Because, apparently, I am doing my job rightWell, this will be all kinds of hilarious, I just know it. Lelouch will burn the whole damn world to the ground at this rate
Also, why do I suspect that Charles might be packing something more than just Geass this time around?
Alright. Then make so Horror and Beauty As One is a Permanent Charm, with the cost to activate Insane Graceful Movement being increased from "3m" to "5m, 1wp". This should be balanced.I can, but that would make it not a Permanent Charm unless you're increasing the cost of Insane Graceful Movements permanently. Horror and Beauty as One as a Permanent Charm makes it so you get the effect for good or for ill - you don't get a choice in the matter of activating the effect or not. It's like the Rapacious Delicacy Summons addition to Locus Mana Plague. That'll cause your locusts to eat all foodstuffs in the summon radius, whether you want it to or not.
And it should be considered that unlike for Beautiful In My Way there is no ability to provide a defense for allies with Insane Graceful Movements with or without Horror And Beauty As One.
You might just want to increase the cost of Insane Graceful Movements in general instead considering that A) it is applicable to crowds, B) it lasts for an entire scene, and C) for that scene every last one of your Performance based social attacks (which includes speeches) becomes an Unnatural Mental Influence. Maybe back to 7m, 1wp, or just to 5m, 1 wp given that this is what the cost would be with Horror and Beauty as One would be anyways if you're going this route.
It just means that we can easily use the Oramus Excellency with it.Isn't seven supposed to be our lucky number? So, do we get a bonus or something?
Good news! The DVD doesn't work so no film today...actually that's kind of a pity. But I can update now.
Rolling the second Intelligence+War: 1d10=4, 1d10=2, 1d10=1, 1d10=3, 1d10=5, 1d10=6, 1d10=2, 1d10=2, 1d10=9, 1d10=5, 1d10=4, 1d10=1, 1d10=10, 1d10=3
Using Second Oramus Excellency: -2m, +1 success
Total: 4 successes
Rolling Wits+War as per Tactical Instincts: 1d10=1, 1d10=2, 1d10=9, 1d10=5, 1d10=9, 1d10=7, 1d10=2, 1d10=4, 1d10=1
Total: 3 successes. Result: 3/3 bonus dice
Writing now...
Is two extra rolls or one extra success really that big a deal? I've never actually played exalted, so I don't know.Wow, that initial roll didn't go very well at all. Good thing we've got the Excellency to bullshit our way to success.
====Active Charms:
Loom-Snarling Deception
Personal Essence: 8/13
Peripheral Essence: 32/32
Willpower: 7/7