Distant Stars. (a WH40K/Xianxia civ Quest).

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But claiming a part of a domain utilized by an older god which invested in its development can allow one to grow faster"
Interesting, so the divine drop insight would speed up our development later on, probably isn't as useful currently as four grade nine materials, but it is worth keeping in mind for the future.
 
1) Is there anything in our solar system that could help us fight the invasion we do not know about?

2) What are the largest empires in the galaxy and what can he tell us about them?
 
1) Is there anything in our solar system that could help us fight the invasion we do not know about?
"There is nothing special in your solar system, the asteroid belt has many valuable metals and the moon has some gasses that might be useful but you already knew that"

2) What are the largest empires in the galaxy and what can he tell us about them?
What roth said, he already told you of the major powers of the galaxy.
 
dragon is cool. but god-daughter is cooler
I was not really being serious, but looking at stuff more seriously, anything the keku made probably shouldn't count towards stuff like what they got from their solar systems, this would include Shitaku, Kuvara and all cultivators, those were made by keku, not found by keku.

Of the things our planet got, I would say the biggest two are the pyramid and the nascent portals that would lead to the apocalypse, with Oketekru as a follow-up, but not exactly the same because he was drawn here by keku because he looks for worshippers, and thus have presence in a lot of places.

This made me curious if the hive mind have religion.
 
A lot, most are minor and get killed when they reach a certain threshold but the galaxy is a big place and there are many who manage to survive.


"They have religions of their own, if an actual god is at the head of them I have yet to see it"


"I wont talk about all of them but you should probably know of the Ranerions, they area a large mammal race, averaging three meters tall when they are full grown, they walk on two legs and possess six eyes around their head"

"They have four arms; their world gravity is twice the standard and this has resulted in them being a lot stronger and tougher to survive"

"They are a partial hive mind, communicating through telepathy, they answer to a queen but every individual dos posse some agency of their own"

"Avoid them if you can, they see anything that isn't of their hive -even other hives of their species- as an enemy to be exterminated"

"The least few hundred years of their history has been full of total war to claim their plant, they have yet to acquire weapons of mass destruction and they would likely use them extensively when they get them"

"I'm fine with them, they still posses a semblance of order and as a hive mind their hierarchy is self-reinforcing but they are an expansionist race and thier kinds never settle down and end up knoking other civilization out of balance, so I wont be sad to see them gone"


"I do not like art, it encourages creativity, creativity encourages change which is opposite to one of my domains."


That's more like two questions, one about claiming domains and one about what happens when to gods share a domain.

Want me to answer both of them or just one?
All interesting answers, though what I meant was if the larger factions Okertatu has told us about had their own gods. For example the Ork or the Tyranid.
 
I kind of hope Kuvara get the keku and flight domains before we ascended, having some divine insights backed by kuvara sounds nice, even before we see the boosted keku pillar this turn.

I am guessing Shitaku is claiming the cultivation domain now, considering one of the divine insights called him god of cultivation, and his own authority over it (having the ability to share it).

I suspect we may have had a shot at the keku domain, but we are practically granting it to Kuvara.
 
Okertaku QaA compository.
Seeing as things quieted down some, I've gathered up all of the questions and answers (I've also added two new ones at the bottom).

As a reminder this QnA is still ongoing so if you want to you can still ask questions.

I'm also removing the limit of question per person, I have some extra free time and I like doing this, just try not to overwhelm me with questions.

Our regular schedule will hopefully be sometime in the middle of next week when I would hopefully finish turn 13 (well we would still have the war in the warp section but still).

Are there any races in the sector they think we could interact peacefully with?
"Hmm… severel actually, from what I found your sector has seven races inhabiting it (aside from yours) and most of them don't possess any inherent characteristics which would bar peaceful interaction, admittedly a few of them are… rough around the ages but I posses a presence on the homewards of six of them and can make introductions for a small fee"

"Just don't expect them for the next century or two, as only two of the races in this sector have achieved space flight and only one has any kind of FTL and they are on the other side of the sector, even if I put my hand on the scales, it would take them several decades to get here at the least"

( do we know about the aeldari? If yes, i want to ask about his dealings with them. )
"My dealings with them are minor, mostly I have a few connections with a small number of craft worlds and we trade favors every so often, they need divine power or insight and from time to time help in a battle and I utilize their expertise and their farseers to help my followers and interests".

You mentioned the orthodox path, can you expand on it's powers and weaknesses? Is there anything from it applicable to cultivation? Can you show us examples of orthodox techniques?
"The orthodox path is powerful, even the least follower of it can rend whole armies asunder in short order, it requires very little training to achieve this power, many are the psykers who do not even realize they are utilizing their power"

"Its weaknesses lie in the dangers of its use and difficulty to control, even masters must be carful least a carless mistake will rend their soul, many newly awakened psykers end up killing themselves and any around them"

"There this noting worthwhile in it, Qi is too different from the raw warp Psykers wield, hmm.. no, there is one thing, choirs"

"The way to channel power and control together to achieve greater effects then one could alone"

He precedes to show a few examples of choirs casting, there isn't a lot you can utilize from their methods but some principles do carry over.

This will boost certain formation actions you can take.

Are there plants with known effects on psykers he can get us samples of? We started farming herbs, and some variety could be useful.
"There are many plants with psychic effects -relatively speaking of course-, as well as creatures which the warp corrupts or can utilize it in biological ways, often they are used in the crafting of focuses to help with the difficult task of controlling the warp"

"normally transporting them throughout the warp would be a delicate affair if you wished for them to retain their effects, currently transporting anything into the sector is impossible without breaking the chaos gods blockade"

I'll wait a bit before answering Pittauro questions, let him decide if he want to change something"

1) What is the relationship between a god and their domains? We once thought/realized that a god IS their domains in some ways, but there's probably more to it...
"A god is the domain; the domain is the god"

"This is a good enough description of the basics to understand anything else you must know what domains actually are, the basics at least".

"To make a long story short, domains are the manifestations of an ideal concept, from basic things like fire and water and more complicated concepts like home and deceit"

"The warp, a place of thought, intent and concepts, is the easiest place for such forces to manifest in, there are an untold number of domains floating in the warp many claimed, many not"

"A god is the domain; the domain is the god but while every god is a domain not every domain is a god"

"Domains become gods in one of two ways, intent or subsumption"

"Intent has a few forms but the most relevant is faith, belief is powerful and it carries an impression of the one who posses it, and when enough impressions are absorbed into the domain, they grant it a small measure of agency"

"At this point the new god is more like a computer then a true being, as its so beholden to its nature it cannot act against it even if it means death"

"As more faith is gathered, the impressions are absorbed to improve the code (if were continuing the computer metaphor while the power in it is utilized to act as the domain dictates"

"Still very much a computer, if more advanced and able to fake it more"

The second way, is for a being to grasp a domain and be subsumed by it, this happens frequently most mortals can't comprehend a domain let alone bear the wight on their soul, a few manage mostly demons and deva who prepared for it but here and there a being of the real manages it by pure luck, not that its dos them much good, seeing as how they can't manifest it in the real"

"But I digress, the subsumed mind become slaved to the domain and allows it to think and act"

"it's important to note that even this is just a computer able to only comply with its directives"

"Both roads lead to the same point a being who only follows his code, this changes when a god claims his second domain"

"The code of both domains clash (for a lack of a better word) and in the place they clash freedom is afforded and it's here that a gods true personality begins to form"

"There is more too it of course but those are secrets I would not revel"

3) We saw how the Burning Plague was a special disease that violated physics and affect the soul too. What does the "change" we see in the soul of even healed people mean, and is there anything we can do about it? Should we be worried about new variants of this plague just appearing out of nowhere?
"The change you see is the soul gaining an affinity with a domains concept, it is a claim upon the soul it makes it easier to claim the soul and easier to imbued it with power if you wished"

"there's nothing much you can do about it, cutting away can be done but requires that the cut be made with an intent that overpowers the domain the affinity is drawn to, doable for a minor god less so for one of the four"

"I know of methods use to cleanse this taint but nothing specific"

"you should likely worry about random plagues appearing giving who were dealing with here but not from this, besides everyone has some affinity with the disease domain, this just strengthens it"

Do these other people's you've told me about have gods of their own?
"They have religions of their own, if an actual god is at the head of them I have yet to see it"

Would you tell me about them and what you think of them?
"I wont talk about all of them but you should probably know of the Ranerions, they area a large mammal race, averaging three meters tall when they are full grown, they walk on two legs and possess six eyes around their head"

"They have four arms; their world gravity is twice the standard and this has resulted in them being a lot stronger and tougher to survive"

"They are a partial hive mind, communicating through telepathy, they answer to a queen but every individual dos posse some agency of their own"

"Avoid them if you can, they see anything that isn't of their hive -even other hives of their species- as an enemy to be exterminated"

"The least few hundred years of their history has been full of total war to claim their plant, they have yet to acquire weapons of mass destruction and they would likely use them extensively when they get them"

"I'm fine with them, they still posses a semblance of order and as a hive mind their hierarchy is self-reinforcing but they are an expansionist race and thier kinds never settle down and end up knoking other civilization out of balance, so I wont be sad to see them gone"

What is your favorite art form that Kekukind have yet to explore?
"I do not like art, it encourages creativity, creativity encourages change which is opposite to one of my domains."

Let's start with one, how may a god claim a domain.
"A god claims a domain in one of two ways, by force or by nature"

"Domains are manifestations of a concept, this mean they exist within the warp as actual locations and can be claimed by beating up all of the other claimants, of course killing a god or any being that possess a domain can allow you to claim at least a portion of it for yourself"

"Young gods, limited as they are in their actions rarely claim a domain this way and when they do its more luck and happenstance then anything deliberates on their part but the chaos gods have long hunted down nascent gods to claim their domains"

"The more common way is to claim a domain by nature, domains are connected and can overlap in their concepts with others and so as one acts within the limit of their domain, they also act to ideals of other domains"

"Do so long enough and they would claim a small portion of this domain and in time they would gather enough for it to actually be called a domain, faith can speed up this process"

"Kuvara for example is well on her way to claiming the Keku domain and getting some partial claim over the flight domain"

What about sharing domains? How can it be done? How does it effect the god in question? Would a weaker god be able to grow stronger by barging on the domain of a stronger god, and can gods use it as a vector of attack to one sharing their domain?
"Claiming a domain by nature is a slow process and more then one god can do so at the same time and when this happens, they both claim different portions of it"

"This fact limits the use and power of the domain, depending on how large of a share each gods possess"

"For example, I am not the only go who claims the order domain, there is another go who can cast a claim to it, specifically he claims the order of life within the domain of order, this limits my ability to utilize the domain thorough the vector of life and limits the total power I can draw from the domain, although as it's a minor claim the limitation is very low."

"You can't claim a domain fully claimed by another without some sort of way to pry it out of their grasp and even if you could it offers no real link for attack not more then possessing any other kind of domain."

"But claiming a part of a domain utilized by an older god which invested in its development can allow one to grow faster"

1) Is there anything in our solar system that could help us fight the invasion we do not know about?
"There is nothing special in your solar system, the asteroid belt has many valuable metals and the moon has some gasses that might be useful but you already knew that"

) We Know that the Apocalypse will consist of portals opening up and demons falling out of them in unprecedented numbers. Is this something... common in the galaxy? and can he teach us better ways of closing such portals, or opening them if it ever becomes worth doing (like for example to have Kuvara's Daeva come to our planet to help, or to have our cultivators and/or armies help HER (well, not now, but high enough technology CAN probably make even mortals relevant in a warp fight)
"Common? Nothing of the sort, daemons are summoned all of the time from the warp but nowhere close to the numbers you're going to see"

"And the few times such numbers are reached it is by dedicatedly summoning and bindings over centuries"

"The tear of realty being turn into a stable breach is not something that happens"

"I was already planning on teaching Kuvara how to strengthen the barrier between dream and realty but I doubt it would do anything at all to change the outcome, too much power is being diverted to tearing it open."


2) Does he think there will be any dangerous or negative side-effects from the slowly rising of natural qi levels in our atmosphere?
"No more than the regular risk of living in a world with a higher warp concentration"
 
I was already planning on teaching Kuvara how to strengthen the barrier between dream and realty but I doubt it would do anything at all to change the outcome, too much power is being diverted to tearing it open."
So implications are that this is an assassination...

I kind of suspected for a while the chaos gods did the plague to assassinate Shitaku as an alpha plus psyker who they were suppressing.

First time I suspect the apocalypse itself is another assassination attempt against us.
 
I kind of suspected for a while the chaos gods did the plague to assassinate Shitaku as an alpha plus psyker who they were suppressing.
I'm pretty sure I commented before about how they didn't know shikatu existed until like 300~ years after he invented cultivation.

The plague was just Nurgle pulling a Nurgle, hell it wasn't even Nurgle himself but one of his daemons.
 
I'm pretty sure I commented before about how they didn't know shikatu existed until like 300~ years after he invented cultivation.

The plague was just Nurgle pulling a Nurgle, hell it wasn't even Nurgle himself but one of his daemons.
It seemed kind of odd the plague disappeared as soon as Shitaku healed one person, like, the timing seemed absurd, wasn't that also after he had tribulation.
 
It seemed kind of odd the plague disappeared as soon as Shitaku healed one person, like, the timing seemed absurd, wasn't that also after he had tribulation.
I'll be honest it's a complete coincide, when I wrote that, it was just another feather in the tragedy of Shikatu early life.

He worked so hard and invested so much to heal the thing that took his family and, in the end, it wasn't needed.

Also, the tribulation doesn't mean they knew about him, it is mostly of an automatic process or well, was.

It's likely the first two tribulations would have been harder for shikatu if the four knew about him but because they didn't, he faced the automatic response.

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@uri Hey what happend to Deamon responsible for that plauge. I mean his plauge made an enormus change to the galaxy in the last 20 milion Years.
He probably lost some favor with Nurgle for that, when they figured out how things happened but its hard to say more than that and are unlikely to know about it (or recognize him).
 
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@uri Hey what happend to Deamon responsible for that plauge. I mean his plauge made an enormus change to the galaxy in the last 20 milion Years.
Also Uri, keep in mind that if we do get a name, we totally going to try to use the death insight to permanently kill him, than again, if he is a major daemon, we will probably try it anyway if we ever saw him.
 
He worked so hard and invested so much to heal the thing that took his family and, in the end, it wasn't needed.
well, it should feel somewhat satisfying that the technique he created DID help with the second coming of the plague.

Also, the tribulation doesn't mean they knew about him, it is mostly of an automatic process or well, was.
what was the tribulation's purpose though? Supposedly Cultivation is something new, so it couldn't have been a counter specifically for it.

Was there some similar "magic/psychic" powers in the past that worked in comparable ways?
 
well, it should feel somewhat satisfying that the technique he created DID help with the second coming of the plague.
Imagine the cultists.

How did he do it? It should have held him for a month at least, developing a cure!

Than again, I think our religion would probably capitalise on the disease ending after we healed a single person to say Shitaku totally was the one to stop it, proven when his students healed it when it returned.
what was the tribulation's purpose though? Supposedly Cultivation is something new, so it couldn't have been a counter specifically for it.

Was there some similar "magic/psychic" powers in the past that worked in comparable ways?
Maybe it worked like the bureaucracy divine insight, we broken a divine edict.

Kind of curious what it was though, we also know they can strike at us only when we go through ascension, so it was probably pretty niche edict.

Maybe it was a mortal shell not get closer to the gods without their support or something, to prevent their servants from trying to become daemon princess without them.
 
what was the tribulation's purpose though? Supposedly Cultivation is something new, so it couldn't have been a counter specifically for it.
It was a counter against people stepping closer to divinity.

More specifically, it was a counter against what the shamans did to birth the emperor, a surprise lighting bolt in that ritual would have seen it fall through.

And cultivation falls squarely under that.

Maybe it worked like the bureaucracy divine insight, we broken a divine edict.
That is exactly how it worked. (also your guess for the edict you broke was pretty spot on)

han again, I think our religion would probably capitalise on the disease ending after we healed a single person to say Shitaku totally was the one to stop it, proven when his students healed it when it returned.
They did, you got a lot of new fanatics that day.
 
It was a counter against people stepping closer to divinity.

More specifically, it was a counter against what the shamans did to birth the emperor, a surprise lighting bolt in that ritual would have seen it fall through.

And cultivation falls squarely under that.

interesting.

it also implies that while the Emperor does not have cultivation, his (starting) condition after that ritual might be somewhat comparable.

One has to question why the tribulation is only so strong though. I suppose even the chaos gods have a limit on how much power they can throw into the Wake from the Warp out of nowhere?

And ironically, while the tribulation has still a big chance of crippling or killing us, cultivation turns it into a potential source of power in that we use it to become stronger. for the first three tribulations at least we use it to strenghten the dantian, the pillars and the core after all. Then again, without it many more people could get closer to divinity. It IS thinning the numbers, considering even the easiest tribulations currently only have less than 5% of success, probably closer to 3%, and we've been told 4th step and 5th step will be FAR lower than that.

Which makes me wonder... when will we ever get our first NON-Shikatu 4th or 5th step. Assuming we Manage to have Shikatu reach the 5th... but I think he should make it.

We have time and resources to throw at it. By the time he's ready to try we'll likely have insights and core insights to help, possibly artifacts, Kuvara and Keku prayers to help, plenty of self-rez powers...
 
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