Distant Stars. (a WH40K/Xianxia civ Quest).

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He slowly edged closer and closer to the mound, and then swiftly burrowed his arm deep within the mount
Maybe switch it to leg, our leg can serve as arms, but our our arms have wings attached, digging sounds difficult like that.
"And that's why I'm still your senior. You're old in age, young in experience." He pointed at the wings. "The wings are vestigial, but the mole has turned them into stores for fat and nutrients. Very healthy, we used to dry them and turn them into healing powders or tea. They usually regrow if you know where to pluck. Now, is that useful?" He plucked one of the small pseudo-feather growing on the mole's side and passed it to Vakatu.
Kind of liked the mole creatures having pesudo feathers, that sell them as more alien.

But I kind of dislike how condescending he is to Vakatu.

Considering how old, rich and powerful Vakatu is, I can't help but imagine people talking like that the Elon Musk and thinking they are idiots.

Of course, Vakatu isn't that rich and powerful, but the way the army guys and now this ranger interacted with him make him feel a little childish, like the plucky teenager protagonist just starting off his journey in xianxia, rather than fifty plus world renowned scholar with degrees in multiple fields who is also a CEO, now add that he is religious figure on top of it, and well...

Vakatu isn't less experienced than the ranger, he probably learns in a year more than this ranger will know his entire life.
 
but the way the army guys and now this ranger interacted with him make him feel a little childish, like the plucky teenager protagonist just starting off his journey in xianxia, rather than fifty plus world renowned scholar with degrees in multiple fields who is also a CEO, now add that he is religious figure on top of it, and well...
Fair, yea. Perhaps I got a little too far in that regard. (Both were not regular kekus, at least, so maybe my sins are a little bellow the death sentence)
 
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Contemplaing new resources
She almost screeched in rage, another failure.

She threw away the useless scrap metal she just examined, she had been hopeful for this one.

Her assistant didn't react to it, already getting frustrated herself, but writing the results on her tablet.

And she flew up, going in circles around the ceiling to blow off steam.

And rightfully so, for the last year they had been trying to properly refine materials to improve her qi battery and failed.

The project of refining the battery had been simple enough at the start, expanding on ancient durability runes, already majorly improved by the institution was simple enough.

But eventually they hit a snag, a cap in which development started slowing down significantly, they needed better construction material.

And than she had a thought, if she can make qi battery, a dantian, why can't she refine something the same ways cultivators refined themselves, a body for her battery.

It didn't work, or more like, their results were limited.

Her first attempt was trying to forge metal with intent invested in, it showed promise, but was all around a failure.

She landed after her anger cooled and gone to a perch, taking her own tablet to write her thoughts.

If she didn't knew her assistant for years, she would have never lost her cool like that, but at some point, she started treating her like an extension of herself.

She didn't know how she could experiment before she found Korkor, she was sad to say that her own sect sisters and students fell short as assistances, but most weren't of the second step, so perhaps it was given.

Where was she? She looked back at the tablet.

The mental exercises for growing herbs proved incompatible with those of forging metals, the connotations too different and the process too dissimilar.

There might be something down that path, but she didn't have the workforce to go there, she was familiar with the arts if imbuing intent in materials, as well as working metals.

Forging tribulation rods were amongst the first runes she learnt, and the making of weapons were some of the most common tasks a young runemaster could do.

She wasn't a young rune master.

But she wasn't trying to make the materials do something, she was trying to make spiritual metal.

Which proved far more difficult than she imagined.

When mortal metals proved too dead to take to the qi, she had started trying to use metals with mystical connotations, most such connotations were mere superstitions, but not all, and the power of intent already proven itself.

It can be found all through the natural world, if one knew how to look and when qi was introduced, most such legends provided barely any results, the power so minor that the power of metals like titanium was academic at best.

But it was only true for some.

She does not know why, but brass took to physical enhancements far more than it should have, gold likewise also have great power, but that power was not always in line with the legends.

Useless for her purpose, for as useful as it was for the refinements of simple runes, she was looking higher.

"Lady Haku" Kiekra, a student of her that followed her from the sect, said, entering the room through the curtains leading outside, landing as she does.

She scrunched her eyes and bristled some feathers to show annoyance for being interrupted, but she calmed herself quickly, it was unsightly for someone like her to act like that, no matter how upset she was "yes?".

"There are news, another group of demonic cultivator captured".

At that she grew interested, if Kiekra mentioned it, it could only mean one things, at least one of them had a runic artifact.

"How many" she asked.

"One cloak, but their base also seem to have some ritualistic inscriptions"

She nodded absentmindedly.

The artifacts of demonic cultivators were garbage, barely worthy of being called artifacts.

But they were new, outside the short war in which a demon was summoned, she had heard of one demonic cultivator who managed to get his hands on proper imperial equipment, and empower those with his own methods.

But most make their runes completely by themselves, or with the help of their books and whispers, she had yet to see something impressive, but between all the flesh and blood, one can sometimes find a tiny piece of genius, a tiny innovation that could give a new perspective.

Even if the objects are somewhat distasteful.

"The cloak?" She asked.

"Keku skins" of course it was keku skin, it was always Keku skin "anything else" she asked.

Kiekra looked conflicted before she answered "the skin show signs of tumour growth, he had also been using feathers of more than Keku to make it".

Haku nodded "bring it to me, I will give it a look before passing it on".

She didn't have the time to truly explore the works of demonic cultivators, to riffle through the dirt in the hopes of finding a treasure, she would make sure there was nothing overtly suspicious about it, pass some tests to ensure it is safe and than pass it to some second step with experience on the subject.

She stopped for a moment, there was one such artifact she was hoping to truly explore though.

The sword.

A weapon carried by the demon summoned in the war.

It was a masterpiece, the technology far more advanced than their own weapons.

She had been itching to put a decade or two studying it's secrets, the emperor has offered.

But she had instead tried to develop spiritual metal.

But maybe it held the secrets she was looking for?

She had been really hopeful this experiment would work too, am alloy of spiritual herbs and brass, she had hoped that the wood qi will introduce enough life for the refinement to take, but instead the metal qi had consumed the wood qi, breaking the process.

She contemplated, could she stop it? Make sure to isolate the wood and metal during the creation process, to hold them apart but together.

She wrote this down, both of the ideas.

The principals of fire, a study written by the emperor a few decades back about the laws that governed fire qi already gave her the right matrixes to isolate the destructive aspects, and introduce anything from growth renewal and change.

She wasn't looking to make something so ambitious, but could she make a similar matrix from yin qi?

No, too complex, pure yin was almost impossible to work with, she would need to decay it to simple forms, she was already incredibly familiar with ice and stillness, but wood usually reacted badly with both…

She closed her eyes and put down her tablet.

She let her qi hum in her body, cool energy, slow but steady.

One of the greatest problems with cultivating yin qi is that it could never be pure, for if it was, she would be dead, her energy and qi incapable of movement, the energy of death and stillness filling her body.

But the rules could be broken.

A mote of divine qi merged with her own, and yang was expelled.

She let the energy flow out of her skin, paradoxically, it was stillness and nothingness, death and darkness, but it moved.

Could she use that to close to gap? Divine qi was a rare resource, most of it spent on keeping kuvara safe, the rest gone to her grandmaster or sold to some god.

But the third steps were still given enough, enough to do anything short of cultivation with it.

She had not used it yet, not wanting to corrupt her experiments with energy that no lesser runemasters can use.

But maybe, already her mind jumped to the different uses it can have in breaking the limits of runes, with her own insights...

Maybe she would experiment with it more, letting her mind freshen up could only do good for her qi battery project, especially if she wanted to continue using expensive herbs in her experiments.
 
Normally I would offer options but you're getting close to discovering one of the sword secrets (after flubbing the rolls more then once) and the omake is relevant.

So, third secret of the sword reveled (the secrets get reveled in no particular order), refined materials.

To refine even the lowest of materials requires three things, mastery of runes or mastery of alchemy (likely both for higher rank stuff), a large quantity of qi (and affinity, which means practically only third steps and above can do this) and divine Qi.

Refined materials can be used to create any kind of rune advancement you have while massively boosting its effectiveness but they can also be used to create special artifacts and a few more uses besides.

Currently, Haku will be creating 1 unit of G1 refined materials every turn, this can be increased to 2, if 10 divine charges are diverted to her (this can be from the empire pool) as the time-consuming process can be cut down with more energy.

To give an example for how large the boost is, building a LDA brings the tribulation successes chances of someone attempting to reach the third step to 15%, this might not sound much but even with using an array and taking an emperor teaching action the success chance was 5%.

And you can still use the emperor action to increase that chance.

This also unlock the option to use the drop of blood to get 3 units of G9 notable (heaven) refined materials.

Using that for the tribulation array would guarantee a success on the tribulation for the fourth step and give a major boost for the fifth. Of course using such wonderous material for such a propose is extremely wasteful, a few example for possible use for such material.

Want an Astonomican of your own? You can have one (you'll likely need to find a way to power it but divine Qi can more than work).

Want a sword which perma kills any deamon it slays, that can cut through adamantium as if it was butter and that every wound it inflicts would take centuries to heal if it even could? You can get that.

Do you want an armor so unbreakable that it will require heavy orbital bombardment to even scratch it?

Want to craft Kuvara another better avatar? You'll need to research some prerequisites in the knowledge department but the material is there.
 
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Want an Astonomican of your own? You can have one (you'll likely need to find a way to power it but divine Qi can more than work).

Want a sword which perma kills any deamon it slays, that can cut through adamantium as if it was butter and that every wound it inflicts would take centuries to heal if it even could? You can get that.

Do you want an armor so unbreakable that it will require heavy orbital bombardment to even scratch it?
I assume we need the technology/runes to create those effects, and the material simply increases it to the power given in the example? Or can we straight up make such things now despite having no death runes or the like?
 
...damn, that's the GOOD Stuff!

The tribulation boost with refined materials is something to at least use for our notable units. Maybe if we can scale up production we'll be able to use it on a larger scale post apocalypse, as I don't think we'll be able to before.

And as for the g9 thing... We'll, they all are pretty tempting.
 
I assume we need the technology/runes to create those effects, and the material simply increases it to the power given in the example? Or can we straight up make such things now despite having no death runes or the like?
you'll need a little bit of research to get some of the effects but with this kind of material it won't be that much (2-3 ap).

Of course, greater technology and knowledge can unlock even greater artifacts.
 
Maybe if we can scale up production we'll be able to use it on a larger scale post-apocalypse, as I don't think we'll be able to before.
We do have the AOE reusable lightning catchers, at least, so our cultivators have something. I dream of a day where any keku can walk to the supermarket... wait this is the future... order a lightning deflection array on the qi internet. ANY keku, because of course we'll have them all become cultivators. Maybe with the mutation we can create a lineage that has higher cultivation talent, then spread it and slowly increase the talent of the species as a whole?

Edit: Also, this makes me wonder how easy/hard it is for other species to cultivate. If the empire adopted it, could they get billions with their resources? What about the eldar, with their psyonic talent, they'd be fierce cultivators (if they decided to give it up in exchange) but would just every one of them be able to awaken their friend with how much innate talent there is?
 
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...damn, that's the GOOD Stuff!

The tribulation boost with refined materials is something to at least use for our notable units. Maybe if we can scale up production we'll be able to use it on a larger scale post apocalypse, as I don't think we'll be able to before.

And as for the g9 thing... We'll, they all are pretty tempting.
Probably not relevant for a while, that definitely sounds more useful than throwing it in the fire, but it doesn't have the kind of immediate returns that make it urgent.

Let's see other options and how bad the apocalypse is before pulling out heavy guns.

We still have necron tech to get.
 
An astronomican sounds like a good pick, assuming we don't get some alternative method of FTL that doesn't require it.

Then again I don't think we're in a rush to expand to as many systems as we can seeing what our population is, and we have to deal with the apocalypse first anyway.
 
An astronomican sounds like a good pick, assuming we don't get some alternative method of FTL that doesn't require it.
Just need to wait until a runecrafter finds out how to bend space with those and you get an easy qi-powered FTL drive. Hell, I bet a 3rd step could achieve that if they focused their pillars on it. (1 insights allow us to move instantly along water)
Qi-tech for the win
 
Maybe with the mutation we can create a lineage that has higher cultivation talent, then spread it and slowly increase the talent of the species as a whole?
You can likely find a mutation that makes body refining easier, you already know of such a trait but talent is related to the soul so its extremally unlikely you will find something that can do so for all the stages.
 
An astronomican sounds like a good pick, assuming we don't get some alternative method of FTL that doesn't require it.
It's a horrible idea.

Ignoring that it is a massive waste of resources to manage a galaxy scaled empire we don't have, that it needs an entire structure of navigators which the Keku don't have, that it attract massive be amount of attention we can't deal with, and that someone already activating an astronomicon for us, why the hell would we want one?
 
Ignoring that it is a massive waste of resources to manage a galaxy scaled empire we don't have, that it needs an entire structure of navigators which the Keku don't have, that it attract massive be amount of attention we can't deal with, and that someone already activating an astronomicon for us, why the hell would we want one?
Warp gates would be a better idea, since we can build them as we expand, allow constant travel rather than needing giant ships to jump, and make the 2(or more) planets basically linked for every keku. They're 100 times better. And I assume that with the right tech/runes and t9 mats we could build them. Unless the old ones really were that much more advanced than golden age humanity.
 
Warp gates would be a better idea, since we can build them as we expand, allow constant travel rather than needing giant ships to jump, and make the 2(or more) planets basically linked for every keku. They're 100 times better. And I assume that with the right tech/runes and t9 mats we could build them. Unless the old ones really were that much more advanced than golden age humanity.
Emperor tried to make a single warp gate to connect to the existing system and screwing it up left him with an eye of terror he needs to constantly stop from forming.

The Eldar can make simple planetary gates, but going beyond a planet (or maybe solar system) and they don't have the technology.

I suspect even those materials wouldn't allow us to do more than make a small system of possibly galaxy scaled gates or connect to existing one (which is full of dark Eldar and sometimes demons).

We probably can't make a comprehensive system, because big E couldn't and aside from being significantly more advanced and powerful than us, also actually built an astronomicon and demon killing sword.
 
To talk a little about FTL even if it isn't relevant for a good long while.

I've said before that you're first two options would be a primitive warp drive (fast but dangerous) or a primitive FTL system (slow but safe).

And as technology would improve so would the drives but there are advancements and institutions that can be found/created to help with things.

Runes can help with both options, fang shui can likely help with the FTL system, third steps can lily help both with insights and with investments you can train second steps to be navigators.

There are more way Qi can be utilized to help especially as you push higher steps.

As for warp gates, it would be possible with a lot more research but it would be unpractical form a resource stand point, you'll likely need a G9 mat for each gate (more if you want some of the drawbacks reduced) and you aren't getting that much material of that grade.

A lot of research might reduce the cost but dozens of G8 mats aren't any more likely to be available in bulk.
 
Can Kuvara heal if she bled to give us a divine drop of lesser quality?

Kind of curios if she can become a source of G9 materials if she was left alone from Tzeench, or at least some other very high grade.
 
And as technology would improve so would the drives but there are advancements and institutions that can be found/created to help with things.
Ah yes, the spacing guild.

Emperor tried to make a single warp gate to connect to the existing system and screwing it up left him with an eye of terror he needs to constantly stop from forming.
you'll likely need a G9 mat for each gate (more if you want some of the drawbacks reduced)
The cost was expected yea.
Alright, guess we'll wait for tech level...

the Eldar are 30+ the Necrons are on 39 and are the highest that currently exist in the galaxy, the old ones had knowledge and expertise equivalent to 43.
30+. Maybe 40+.
Shouldn't take long, at our current pace... A few thousand turns?
Only a few tens of millennia, that's nothing. 50k here we come
 
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You can likely find a mutation that makes body refining easier, you already know of such a trait but talent is related to the soul so its extremally unlikely you will find something that can do so for all the stages.
Sure, but personally I just want eventually all Keku to be able to reach the peak of first step. It's just a massive quality of life boost, and we could potentially mass produce pills for awakening and even the tempering itself.

Like, imagine if each Keku got those 2 pills. It's definitely a massive investment, but it means every Keku gets something like a 8x physical boost, which is pretty massive. It also means they all can then use QI tech, potentially charge QI batteries, they'd likely be far more resistant to both injury and disease effectively massively reducing the burden on welfare and related expenses...

Now, it's definitely going to be massively expensive. Right now a very quick a dirty estimate from numbers of firsts steps per turn and pill costs seems to be that awakening pills would be around 1 EFEP per Keku, and the one to be ready for the tribulation would be 4 EFEP per Keku.

Obviously unviable, but if we scaled up massively... In the long term... Between refinements to make the pills far cheaper, and the massive increases in wealth we can get from our tech growth... It's not THAT unreasonable.

And it's not like we actually have to make the second ones available to everyone, they can be more of a luxury product. It's basically buying yourself superpowers (well, or pay with money for the time and effort the superpowers would actually cost).

It's a paradigm shift. I see universal awakenings as something sort of comparable to universal healthcare or education. It's something that would pay massive benefits. And it would also increase the natural levels of QI from all the otherwise normal civilians who, at the end of their natural lifespan, are likely to try the tribulation. Which means it becomes easier for everyone to cultivate (though also that demons find it easier to manifest, I think).
 
Sure, but personally I just want eventually all Keku to be able to reach the peak of first step. It's just a massive quality of life boost, and we could potentially mass produce pills for awakening and even the tempering itself.

Like, imagine if each Keku got those 2 pills. It's definitely a massive investment, but it means every Keku gets something like a 8x physical boost, which is pretty massive. It also means they all can then use QI tech, potentially charge QI batteries, they'd likely be far more resistant to both injury and disease effectively massively reducing the burden on welfare and related expenses...

Now, it's definitely going to be massively expensive. Right now a very quick a dirty estimate from numbers of firsts steps per turn and pill costs seems to be that awakening pills would be around 1 EFEP per Keku, and the one to be ready for the tribulation would be 4 EFEP per Keku.

Obviously unviable, but if we scaled up massively... In the long term... Between refinements to make the pills far cheaper, and the massive increases in wealth we can get from our tech growth... It's not THAT unreasonable.

And it's not like we actually have to make the second ones available to everyone, they can be more of a luxury product. It's basically buying yourself superpowers (well, or pay with money for the time and effort the superpowers would actually cost).

It's a paradigm shift. I see universal awakenings as something sort of comparable to universal healthcare or education. It's something that would pay massive benefits. And it would also increase the natural levels of QI from all the otherwise normal civilians who, at the end of their natural lifespan, are likely to try the tribulation. Which means it becomes easier for everyone to cultivate (though also that demons find it easier to manifest, I think).
Personally find it unviable, making everyone cultivators is a very long term goals in my mind, comparable to giving everyone centuries of lifespan.

Ignoring that we keep the secrets of cultivation on purpose, because we don't want people to spend their time trying to get super powers rather than working.
 
Ignoring that we keep the secrets of cultivation on purpose, because we don't want people to spend their time trying to get super powers rather than working.
Tech will help with that, automation and efficiency, and you only need so many people to supervise the factories. While cultivator resources and items do require cultivators to make. Science too benefits from it, as high level cultivators can do the work of thousands of mortal researchers.
 
I kind of liked the implication that the emperor's best stuff was made from grade nine (or maybe grade eight with higher tech base) materials.

It also might have implications about what he did at Molech when he traveled through a chaos gate to speak with the three exisiting chaos gods.

Maybe he got his hands on blood.

It might also imply that drop or ninth grade materials can be used for something like making a primarch.
 
Sure, but personally I just want eventually all Keku to be able to reach the peak of first step. It's just a massive quality of life boost, and we could potentially mass produce pills for awakening and even the tempering itself.
the thing to keep in mind is that your current numbers are with best and most talented cultivators which basically have any need of theirs met so they can spend 8-10 hours a day in cultivation and it still takes them decades to get anywhere.

A big chunk of your population could cultivate for centuries and get nowhere.

Now with the level of ambient energy increasing and increasing knowledge of cultivation and alchemy that numbers is steadily lowering but it's still non-viable.

If we take the average talent into account (as it dos impact the effectiveness of pills somewhat), a twice refined awakening pill utilizing G1 notable (Qi quantity) herbs would awaken around 100 Keku per charge and a body refining pill with the same would push 200 first steps to the "peak" (fourth stage).

With your current population this means you will need 2,220K awakening pills and 1,100K body refining pills.

Assuming some decent increase in your alchemy lore and taking into account the refinements, and being generous and taking into account rune alchemical tools.

The cost for an awakening pill can be reduced to 4EFEP and the capacity to 5, the body refining pill can have its cost reduced to 10 EFEP and its craft to 20.

This still brings the total cost to 19,880K EFEP and the capacity to 33M.

Your current economy is 2.643K or 0.01% of the needed and to bring your capacity to the needed level would require 33,000~ permanent cultivator ap to be invested.

Now I don't have an exact number for how many cultivators are suitable for another AP (especially with taking into account 2nd​ and 3rd​ steps) but 1000 1st​ steps and 5 2nd​ steps are roughly equivalent to another AP.

And this doesn't take the amount of g1 herbs you'll need into account, worse its G1 notable herbs you haven't yet found.

Note N1: your insight that pushed the average talent half a grade pushed the awakening pill to 100 per from 90 per and the body refining pill to 200 per from 170, needless to say it would save an ungodly amount of resources.

Note N2: this doesn't take into account divine Qi or mutations to make things easier, or various advancements that might be discovered which could help, divine intervention or the utilization of high-grade materials.

Basically this goal is likely beyond your capabilities in the short or medium term and likely still beyond your capabilities for anything but the longest of long terms.
 
If we take the average talent into account
your insight that pushed the average talent half a grade pushed the awakening pill to 100 per from 90 per and the body refining pill to 200 per from 170, needless to say it would save an ungodly amount of resources.

Talking about talent, what IS the average talent? The keku pillar insight says it increases it by half a stage. Is the average 1 stage? 10? Can that be improved with dao/pills etc.? How much difference does that even make?
Looking at this, it seems like higher talent would also lead to easier awakenings, and perhaps more natural awakenings. Normal cultivators don't require pills to awaken, after all, although they're very talented. How much more than the average keku? ...Since we only have a few thousands, probably 1 in a million...
 
Talking about talent, what IS the average talent? The keku pillar insight says it increases it by half a stage. Is the average 1 stage? 10? Can that be improved with dao/pills etc.? How much difference does that even make?
The average grade is Rho (0), the average grade of your current cultivators is theta (9) with the minimum being Kappa (7).

The insight pushed the average of the whole keku to be closer to Pi (1) but not there yet, a century or two more with an increased psychic activity would likely push the average solidly into that grade.

Looking at this, it seems like higher talent would also lead to easier awakenings, and perhaps more natural awakenings. Normal cultivators don't require pills to awaken, after all, although they're very talented.
Talent is helpful for awakening as it helps to feel for the Qi but its not as relevant as it as for actually cultivating.

A mandatory 12 year course (basically for the duration of all low level education) can likely awaken 20%~ of your population, if the average talent shifts to Pi (1) that only rises to 22%~
 
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