Distant Stars. (a WH40K/Xianxia civ Quest).
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They were around, fighting to stay relevant in front of imperial worship that could actually provide some evidence of "miracles", you had a religious conflict brewing as they were pushed further and further into irrelevancy
Some of them adopted the emperor into their pantheon in order to do so and were mostly left alone.
I say were because Kuvara birth basically subsumed most of them into her faith.
Anything that remains are just local and isolated and with almost no name recognition beyond the very local.
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People don't believe the apocalypse? Less than a hundred years ago you will get rage if you suggested publicly that evolution might exist.
And in many rural places today, you will probably get rolled eyes if you suggested Jesus isn't coming back or that there wouldn't be an end of days.
The apocalypse is a core part of our religion and the stated reason why literally God created the empire.
I think you are being biased because you live in mostly secular country.
But we never got it here, God is walking the earth, has magical powers, usurped a probably heavily religious population (because back in our world, even being publicly atheist was social and sometimes literal suicide).
There is a reason I mentioned no one will steal from cultivators in my omake, can you imagine meeting God after you stole from his angel when you die? There is a reason God fearing is a word that exist.
What we say is literally the word of god.
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Keku religion in general hasn't really had the end of days shtick, shiaktu proclaiming it in his religion was actually a radical departure from the norm.
The majority of the population believes in the apocalypse its just that the rulers which are bastions for the old religions (or at least the cultural forces of them) are somewhat slow on the uptake.
Maybe I should do a post on some pre shikatu faiths, its not to relevant but it's a great worldbuilding opportunity.
The majority of the population believes in the apocalypse its just that the rulers which are bastions for the old religions (or at least the cultural forces of them) are somewhat slow on the uptake.
Maybe I should do a post on some pre shikatu faiths, its not to relevant but it's a great worldbuilding opportunity.
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Also, what do people know of the Kuvara prayers, because I assumed that we did tell Kuvara was already fighting in the war, but I don't know for sure.
So do we tell them why we suddenly made everyone pray for her even more?
Do they know for example that Kuvara is responsible for reincarnating souls, or that she transforms some into angels? Because I don't see real reason to hide that, and since we are pretending to be gods, what happened after death is probably something people wanted us to answer.
It just kind of feel as if it was plopped in our world, rather than grew naturally from a primitive and superstitious population that Keku were before the emperor rose.
Did we even have enlightenment ideals in any prominence before the emperor rose.
So do we tell them why we suddenly made everyone pray for her even more?
Do they know for example that Kuvara is responsible for reincarnating souls, or that she transforms some into angels? Because I don't see real reason to hide that, and since we are pretending to be gods, what happened after death is probably something people wanted us to answer.
I was mostly saying it because the villagers seem to think it is horseshit (when as less educated l, I would think they would be even more inclined to go with the fantastical), and the rest are mostly going "cultivators think it is true, so it is probably true" when literally God is saying it and cultivators are his blessed divine massagers.
It just kind of feel as if it was plopped in our world, rather than grew naturally from a primitive and superstitious population that Keku were before the emperor rose.
Did we even have enlightenment ideals in any prominence before the emperor rose.
Well you see, we only did a small genocide during the overtake. Are you really a god if you don't drive the species that worships you close to extinction?
We're a hundred and some years old. People haven't formed legends around us, their great grandfathers haven't beat their grandfather for not singing us praises. Even the Imperium needs brainwashing and capital punishment for heresy to keep their level of worship. Of course, we have the advantage of a literal god and our pillars are species-wide brainwashing, but since when did everyone start believing in the actual provable reality? Hasn't happened yet.
Like people only believed the messages of god, angels, because they were already an ancient part of the culture, ingrained in it.
Depending on the definition, we are. We literally have ownership over our entire species, ask the keku pillar.
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Kuvara is well known, basically everything you said is known I gauss I forgot to include that… ops?
I'll think about it.
You're 473 years old (at least in biological age, 478 mentally and 488 if we count the decade you were dead) admittedly you were a hermit for most of that time and the empire itself is only just 130-140 years old.
I meant our status as a god really. It's fine if we're older than our religions, some gods beat us by much more than 300+ years
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We rose after a plague nearly wiped out the Keku race, even if we were hermits most of the time, and we can probably blame it on the chaos gods pretty conclusively now.
So our religion does have a near genocide of the species which the emperor rose to stop (admittedly make people more afraid of the enemy than us).
Like, Shitaku healed just one guy before the plague disappeared, that's so unnatural it almost definitely can be said the chaos gods canceled it after he healed a person.
We don't really need to give the specifics, but that was probably spinned pretty hard in our religion, why not when it can introduce urgency and let people what to look for, even if we didn't know it was probably the chaos gods, still good idea to use it in our religion.
Than the plague came back and the cultivators descended on a city and beaten it, that's pretty nice propaganda victory as well.
I am guessing nobody knows about the specific gods, but since demonic cultivators are known, demons are probably too and they are to blame for the coming apocalypse.
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Actually I wanted to ask for a skip to 9th step for the Emperor... no? Worth a shot.
Interesting that the more someone is educated the more they seem to believe in the apocalypse.
But yeah, generally speaking an IMMORTAL (or at least very long lived emperor) would have little reason of giving a SPECIFIC date if he wanted to trick his people.
Unless you're a conspiracy theorist and believe the emperor is actually being replaced in secret every few decades, be it through clones or just look-alikes.
...oh? The nobles DON'T KNOW about divine qi? that's interesting. Not even their leader?
Honestly I don't really blame those who don't believe in the apocalypse, but It will be so interesting to see their reaction when that happens...
or, even just in a couple turns, when we TRULY start to ramp up military spending.
After all we've been focusing on tech upgrades, quality of life improvements, stability, education and the economy for the last 130 years.
The fact in a turn or two we'll pivot to a major military focus will make people wonder. After all, WHY Would we do it if we didn't believe in the apocalypse?
Some people might think we are deluded/mad. Some conspiracy theorists might think we're preparing to enact some draconian law and want a stronger military to basically stop rebellions (which makes little sense, as we're already more than strong enough to stop any conventional rebellion)
And some of the ones who currently doubt will start to reconsider.
Up to now, the apocalypse has just been words with a very vague deadline.
Then, in the last 20 years we've come up with a more precide deadline, and we've brought it closer to the current day, not further, which is MORE worrying to anyone who is at least willing to consider the idea.
And then the deadline will strike... and society will be split in two, I imagine.
A few people will be on a hair trigger, waiting for the inevitable. Others will grow more sure it's all a lie with every day the invasion does NOT happen.
...and then it happens.
uh... I'm reminded. Do we know WHO taught the nobles cultivation, and why they did it? Was it money, was it because they were already affiliated to them?
Interesting, so Okertatu is only known by the second steps and above. Makes sense, most people don't really need to know about him, while for the second steps it helps to explain why divine qi for THEM is not going up at all and what the Emperor is using it for (beside helping Kuvara).
which fair enough. I mean, if you get a religion with obvious miracles, and multiple ones without, people will mostly go for the one that benefits them.
Kuvara makes it even harder on them. I mean, you could go and say that Cultivators are superhumans but not divine (which is actually true), but Kuvara's birth caused the whole keku population to erupt into joyous festivities.
How do you explain THAT? Especially when YOU explicitly went through it, as well as everyone you know about that was alive at the time?
Younger generations might start to doubt in theory, but then they've grown in a emperor-led world, knowing nothing but what the Imperial schools teach, they've met cultivators when first tested and know they are at least not a scam irregardless of what the source of their actual powers are...
...and, most importantly, you probably just don't care. The Emperor might or might not be lying about being a god, the apocalypse, the source of their powers, maybe even Kuvara's nature. But he's OBJECTIVELY shown to be a good ruler, most people are happy and satisfied, you can actually visit his court in case there's some big problem that's being ignored by lower courts, and if you go you're usually listened to and not ignored.
And from all you know previous rulers were worse. And even if you didn't believe Shikatu to be a better ruler, there's benefits from a unified world government that might just be worth it even if you had doubts, and in any case you know the Cultivators would likely stop any sort of rebellion... and why would you rebel in the first place anyway? Your grandparents tell you tales of how their grandparents were peasant near-slaves and how much better things became with the Emperor once the rebels and nobles were put down, and then they'll tell you that things have only gotten better during their whole life...
...except MAYBE the last couple decades, where economy and quality of life standards have gone up by a lot, but life has also become more stressfull as "keeping up with the time" it's tiring...
it still is in many places, really, and it's not really appreciated even in many western countries.
I'm more interested in how the current Imperial faith works, honestly.
Like, what are our priests like? What do they do? what are their ceremonies like (I've yet to read the Kuvara prayer). How has Kuvara's birth changed things? How are cultivators treated in our society? How much do people know/understand about the third steps being different?
And how are the NOBLE cultivators treated instead? They are known to be, if not against the Emperor, at least unwilling followers, and yet they can pursue his divine path and have NOT been punished for it, with their leader apparently being fairly high rank and one of the 10 strongest/most advanced cultivators in the world...
there's that update with Kuvara incarnating a dead grandma into a Daeva, that implies the people know there's an afterlife, but don't know the details. In particular they don't know about the Warp and how Kuvara only controls a very small part of it, and how most Keku souls actually reincarnate or are devoured by demons.
keep in mind that "the sticks" are when our school system is the weakest, which means they get less education... and less propaganda.
On the other hand their grandparents likely often told them about how Shikatu freed their parents from noble abuses, so while they might not believe in the apocalypse and that it was just an excuse to grab power... they probably don't care and still approve of Shikatu because he made their lives better.
we're more like a mortal on a path to divinity. that's what cultivation IS, after all.
That said, even if we're not technically a God, we're THE FATHER of a goddess, who acknowledges us. and we're the closest to a god a Keku has ever been.
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Kuvara does reincarnate souls, she doesn't keep them all, just those she make into devas.
I am guessing without her even more will be eaten before they can reincarnate.
And makes sense we wouldn't tell our people most of them are demon food, although, is it most of them still, not sure how many Kuvara can reincarnate.
Shitaku is god, he doesn't need an excuse, do you think Zeus or Odin will need an excuse if they felt like going conquering? Shitaku conquered the world because he was stronger than everyone else, not through some social maneuvering.
It might look like an excuse for nobles, as they are the ones he was trying to convince into joining him, but from outside perspective, it is pretty clear that there were probably easier ways, Shitaku wasn't really doing politics, if he did, almost certainly some nobles would have changed sides, why wouldn't they, but he wasn't playing politics and wasn't really interested in letting them abuse the power they keep.
This I imagine is why not many nobles flocked to us, Shitaku wasn't just telling him to follow him, he was telling them to sacrifice everything to avert what they saw as imaginery end, this means the taxes wouldn't be used to support their lavish lifestyles but to raise the empire, that their peasants would have rights and they they wouldn't be able to do with them as they wished.
Shitaku wasn't coming as a politician, because if he did, some would have joined them, he was coming to them as a Messiah.
Yep, we shouldn't really fall for the propaganda, Shitaku would only be able to genuinely call himself a god when he gets a domain, and even than, he wouldn't be an actual god but something similar.
If they publicly go against us, say anything about the apocalypse not being true, about not being followers of the emperor and other similar things that hurt our religious narrative.
We probably immediately crush them.
The power they provide isn't really worth it to shake the narrative we are selling, about cultivators being blessed by the emperor and such, and since they are still alive, I assume they at least pretended to buy what we sell, to the regular people.
It is one thing for there to be random people saying it isn't true, another for cultivators to do so.
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she might be able to accelerate their reincarnation, hopefully.
He has a touch of the divine. Calling him a demigod would not be inaccurate, especially with all the divine qi he's receiving and using.
So, as I said, he's a mortal on the path to divine ascension. Success is NOT guaranteed, but he's on the 4th of 9 steps to divinity, and he's very likely to reach at least one more step if he's not killed. Beyond that, who knows.
I'm not sure Shikatu would go for the "crush them" or even need to, if they just openly said they don't believe the apocalypse.
Our public response would likely just be "In time they'll see the error of their ways" or something, or some variant of "I'll accept their apology in X decades".
Keep in mind our religion is not mandatory. People are ALLOWED to not believe the Emperor is a god. We didn't even forbid the nobles from pursuing cultivation (and I'm still unsure of their status in our religion @uri ).
We know they can't meaningfully act against us, so as long as they follow our laws they're allowed to think and say what they want.
They are mostly unmentioned and they aren't stupid enough to publicly (and even privately) agitate against the empire official line.
And like keep in mind that they would also fight with you if demonic cultivators were found.
They don't like you because you took away their privileges (although most of the generation that actually has said privileges is mostly dead) and land, and you suppressed them and purged them like twice.
But they are content to live peacefully and slowly expand their influence.
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What does it matter? If she gets their soul they reincarnate either way, the problem is when she doesn't get it.
It is one thing when people do it, another when cultivators, especially when we sell them as blessed by the divine emperor.
Cultivators going against our word put in question both our divinity and the truth of our words.
It is introduction of doubt we can do without.
If they stated talking, we could have also stayed in the realm of threats and make them change their tunes, if not, they are being actively rebellious by encouraging civil unrest and religious schism in spite of order to stop.
They can believe what they want and teach their children what they want, as long as all their cultivators publicly nod along when someone asks them about it, they can stop being cultivators or they can get in line, and currently they seem to be getting in line.
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You know, looking at how quickly the emperor cultivates compared to others, it is pretty ridiculous, we know our average cultivator take like ten to thirty years if I remember correctly, to get to the fifth stage of body tempering and be ready for tribulation (they push slightly higher than they did at the start of I remember correctly, so probably around one stage).
Going by body energising meal, a mortal has zero aps, they can just get less work done, a first step get one ap.
Our daughter as a regent had two regent aps because presumably one gone to continuing her job of managing cultivators.
So ascending past body tempering to the average cultivator (which are the best of the best) take about 2 aps.
Likewise, they have all their needs taken care of, most get a place of power that boost them by 25%, higher cultivation technology base, teachers and so on.
The emperor meanwhile took three years, without a place of power, going blind, needing to handle himself, lower qi atmosphere.
Meaning less than third an ap in all likelihood (which makes me think getting divine body will be free the moment we unlock body tempering again after the apocalypse, it will be just a tiny fraction of our time that it probably wouldn't be counted, unless body tempering is also significantly harder after being reopened).
Currently, third steps used to get a pillar like once in four turns with basic place of power, they also get a few insights, the emperor meanwhile could make an early pillar per ap with only a basic place of power.
So going purely by aps, they get twelve aps if they do nothing else, let's cut eight for insights and actions (some of the insights will fail), that still four times slower than the emperor...
@uri , do we preserve our genetic material and such? Because I think that in the worse case scenario, we should try making tube babies to try make a new emperor if the old one is killed, since we aren't clear on how psychic inheritance work, that seems like our best chance.
There is also G9 materials I guess, we could try to make a baby Keku primarch from the emperor's as well, if we ever need a replacement and still have the drop.
This kind of gave me an idea... We know the drop can serve to make an astronomicon level thing... Can we make a artifact to allow gods to take refuge in, separated from the rest of the warp? Maybe something to completely separate the warp in our world from the rest of the galaxy? Be ambitious and make a planet free of tribulations or the chaos gods?
Keeping Kuvara safe long term will be incredibly hard, and it will get even more so when our nascent soul also start take residence in the warp...
Going by body energising meal, a mortal has zero aps, they can just get less work done, a first step get one ap.
Our daughter as a regent had two regent aps because presumably one gone to continuing her job of managing cultivators.
So ascending past body tempering to the average cultivator (which are the best of the best) take about 2 aps.
Likewise, they have all their needs taken care of, most get a place of power that boost them by 25%, higher cultivation technology base, teachers and so on.
The emperor meanwhile took three years, without a place of power, going blind, needing to handle himself, lower qi atmosphere.
Meaning less than third an ap in all likelihood (which makes me think getting divine body will be free the moment we unlock body tempering again after the apocalypse, it will be just a tiny fraction of our time that it probably wouldn't be counted, unless body tempering is also significantly harder after being reopened).
Currently, third steps used to get a pillar like once in four turns with basic place of power, they also get a few insights, the emperor meanwhile could make an early pillar per ap with only a basic place of power.
So going purely by aps, they get twelve aps if they do nothing else, let's cut eight for insights and actions (some of the insights will fail), that still four times slower than the emperor...
@uri , do we preserve our genetic material and such? Because I think that in the worse case scenario, we should try making tube babies to try make a new emperor if the old one is killed, since we aren't clear on how psychic inheritance work, that seems like our best chance.
There is also G9 materials I guess, we could try to make a baby Keku primarch from the emperor's as well, if we ever need a replacement and still have the drop.
This kind of gave me an idea... We know the drop can serve to make an astronomicon level thing... Can we make a artifact to allow gods to take refuge in, separated from the rest of the warp? Maybe something to completely separate the warp in our world from the rest of the galaxy? Be ambitious and make a planet free of tribulations or the chaos gods?
Keeping Kuvara safe long term will be incredibly hard, and it will get even more so when our nascent soul also start take residence in the warp...
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even if it wasn't free we can probably cheat with divine charges there too. And of course we have a near maxed out meditation skill, access to the best places of powers, potentially use of the body tempering pills AND we can tolerate a LOT of toxicity...
Re-unlocking body tempering will be expensive, but in and of itself reaching the peak of the first step will be fairly easy.
Eventually I want to do it for Dantian too, but in the short term Meridians are likely better.
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Thinking of Eldar gods in Warhammer, the clown can hide inside the library in the webway.
Khaine was shattered and scattered in the many infinity circuits, which are odd, the infinity circuits also served as a cradle to Ynnead.
This makes me suspect some construct to hide gods may be possible, not sure if we can make it though, or if we can isolate it to such an extent we can hide cultivators ascending as well.
Khaine was shattered and scattered in the many infinity circuits, which are odd, the infinity circuits also served as a cradle to Ynnead.
This makes me suspect some construct to hide gods may be possible, not sure if we can make it though, or if we can isolate it to such an extent we can hide cultivators ascending as well.
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Kind of hoped for a way for her to completely avoid the gods, so they wouldn't be able to attack her like they can't when she is in the avatar.
Theres no way to completely cut yourself out of the warp, not for a god but sufficient fortification and large amount of deva can likely hold the line for quite some time.
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So speculating on other potential uses, we can try make some machine to draw massive amounts of warp energy and refine it into qi to absorb, basically a massive cultivation booster.
Not that useful for the apocalypse, but could be handy later.
Or a hyperbolic time chamber.
Using it for materials may not be what we finally settled on, but it is nice to speculate.
Not that useful for the apocalypse, but could be handy later.
Or a hyperbolic time chamber.
Using it for materials may not be what we finally settled on, but it is nice to speculate.
Army exercises 1: the basics.
Looking over the field, you could feel pride on how far you've gotten.
True, your predictions are dire but the empire of today is far better equipped to deal with the coming storm then the empire of yesterday.
And by the time this month exercises would be done, the empire for tomorrow will be even readier for what's coming.
Utilizing a more advanced form of a game popularized in recent years by the name of laser tag, you can achieve high scale and accurate war games, with stand ins for more advanced machines of war.
This time around you won't be personally participating but rather taking commend of the windfor side of engagement.
This will be a long and expensive month but the experience is more than worth it.
Explanation time: basically, with the turn taking a little longer, I've decided to fill in the dead air with something shorter and easier for me to do, that will give you the players more experience with the combat/war system.
This will be the first of a few exorcise that each focus on some aspect of the system (and sometime combining them together), the exercises themselves will each be self-contained and done throughout the next few turns.
I'm doing this so when the apocalypse happens and you get like a hundred different decisions you need to make and distribute your forces that you will know what to expect and have at least some experiences with the system.
But to make you all more invested, the better you do in those exercises the better the bonus you'll get from it.
With that out of the way the scenario.
Scenario: enemy forces have discovered the existence of a large supply depot and have sent a sizable force to destroy it. the supply depot counties enough food and ammunition for months of supply and its loss would be a major blow to the defense of the theater at large.
Thankfully it is defended by a shield array so small-scale attacks are insufficient to destroy it, knowing this the enemy has moved heavy equipment into the sector, should it get into range of the supply depo it will be sufficient to break the shield and destroy it.
The hilly terrain of the sector permits only three paths for such heavy equipment to move, all guarded by fortresses, this equipment is heavy and delicate so two fortresses must fall before demfor can move the equipment safely into place.
Additionally, a small town (8000~ population) is located near one of the paths to the depo, this town must either be defended or evacuated but the depo (and the supply within) takes precedence.
Windfor objectives (you).
Main: survival of the depo (or its full evacuation).
Side objectives:
Survival of the town.
Survival of the fortresses.
Destruction of the enemy heavy equipment.
Capture of the enemy heavy equipment
Slaying of enemy champions.
Routing the enemy.
Destruction of enemy regiments/army group.
And more.
Demfor (demon force) objectives.
Main: destruction of the deppo and the supply therein.
Side: destroying, killing and pretty much raising havoc.
Windfor forces (armed forces information here):
Infrastructure:
Available supply.
Food, ammunition, fuel, healing- infinite.
Artillery ammunition- 5 points.
Demfor forces:
Supply:
??
Known information: you "know" (IE its part of the exercises) that all three fortress will be attacked, further you know that only minimal forces would be able to bypass the fortresses (as demfor is imitating non flying enemies).
Future information (for divination): 1) fortress 3 will be hit heavier then the other. 2) Makatu will attack fortress 2. 3) some kind of attack on your supply lines would be attempted.
You may distribute your forces (or strip them) from the following locations:
Fortress 1.
Fortress 2.
Fortress 3.
Supply depo.
Town.
Supply protection.
Expeditionary force (will attempt riads on enemy supply, might do more if enough units are assigned).
Evacuation (each units assigned provides 2 extra evacuation points to spend every "war" turn, mechanized forces provide 6).
Reserve (units in reserve can reinforce every battle in the sector in one combat turn but will get the tired condition, mechanized forces take two combat turns to reinforce but suffer no condition).
Decide how you spread your forces:
[] Plan.
-[] fortress 1 X units moved from reserve.
-[] evacuation, y units moved from town.
-[] ectara.
You must also decide what your champions will do:
-[] Yokoto.
--[] hunt down enemy champion at X (location).
--[] support the defense/battle at X (location)
--[] bog down enemy champion at X*
--[] bog down army groups at X*
*Yokoto special/highly effective actions
-[] Inorku (previously unnamed half step)
--[] hunt down enemy champion at X (location).
--[] support the defense/battle at X (location).
Further you need to decide upon how your forces will fight in the fortresses.
-[] lightly bleed enemy forces and then retreat form the fortress- highest ratio of loses/kills, minimal damage to the fortresses, you will lose the fortresses relatively quickly (as you aren't trying to hold them).
-[] fight until it's no longer viable to get a good K/L ratio and retreat- a good ratio of K/L, medium damage to fortress, can hold for some time.
-[] no retreat- decent to Okey K/L ratio, high damage to fortresses, will hold so long as units aren't overrun.
And lastly, you need to decide what you're evacuating (If you are), you posses 50 points worth of evacuation form civilian infrastructure/car/trucks and any army assigned to evacuation will add their points.
[] no evacuation
-[] evacuate.
--[] evacuate X from y.
And this is everything, we'll be having a 6-hour moratorium to let everyone ask questions and for some plans to form.
Hopefully everything is understandable but I'm here for questions if not.
Remember that all the votes need to be in a plan.
This is likely to be a mess initially but better we do this now than when there are actual consequences you making a mistake from inexperience with the system.
True, your predictions are dire but the empire of today is far better equipped to deal with the coming storm then the empire of yesterday.
And by the time this month exercises would be done, the empire for tomorrow will be even readier for what's coming.
Utilizing a more advanced form of a game popularized in recent years by the name of laser tag, you can achieve high scale and accurate war games, with stand ins for more advanced machines of war.
This time around you won't be personally participating but rather taking commend of the windfor side of engagement.
This will be a long and expensive month but the experience is more than worth it.
Explanation time: basically, with the turn taking a little longer, I've decided to fill in the dead air with something shorter and easier for me to do, that will give you the players more experience with the combat/war system.
This will be the first of a few exorcise that each focus on some aspect of the system (and sometime combining them together), the exercises themselves will each be self-contained and done throughout the next few turns.
I'm doing this so when the apocalypse happens and you get like a hundred different decisions you need to make and distribute your forces that you will know what to expect and have at least some experiences with the system.
But to make you all more invested, the better you do in those exercises the better the bonus you'll get from it.
With that out of the way the scenario.
Scenario: enemy forces have discovered the existence of a large supply depot and have sent a sizable force to destroy it. the supply depot counties enough food and ammunition for months of supply and its loss would be a major blow to the defense of the theater at large.
Thankfully it is defended by a shield array so small-scale attacks are insufficient to destroy it, knowing this the enemy has moved heavy equipment into the sector, should it get into range of the supply depo it will be sufficient to break the shield and destroy it.
The hilly terrain of the sector permits only three paths for such heavy equipment to move, all guarded by fortresses, this equipment is heavy and delicate so two fortresses must fall before demfor can move the equipment safely into place.
Additionally, a small town (8000~ population) is located near one of the paths to the depo, this town must either be defended or evacuated but the depo (and the supply within) takes precedence.
Windfor objectives (you).
Main: survival of the depo (or its full evacuation).
Side objectives:
Survival of the town.
Survival of the fortresses.
Destruction of the enemy heavy equipment.
Capture of the enemy heavy equipment
Slaying of enemy champions.
Routing the enemy.
Destruction of enemy regiments/army group.
And more.
Demfor (demon force) objectives.
Main: destruction of the deppo and the supply therein.
Side: destroying, killing and pretty much raising havoc.
Windfor forces (armed forces information here):
1 point of garrison, garrisoning fortress 1.
1 point of garrison, garrisoning fortress 2.
1 point of garrison, garrisoning fortress 3.
1 point of garrison, garrisoning town.
2 points of civilians garrisoning town.
1 point of regulars garrisoning supply depo.
5 points of garrison/militia as reserve.
2 points of regulars in reserve.
2 points of mechanized regulars in reserve.
1 point of artillery in reserve.
1 point of first step cultivators in reserve.
2 support point of second step cultivators.
Yokoto- champion (II low).
Unmade new third step- champion (I-high).
1 point of garrison, garrisoning fortress 2.
1 point of garrison, garrisoning fortress 3.
1 point of garrison, garrisoning town.
2 points of civilians garrisoning town.
1 point of regulars garrisoning supply depo.
5 points of garrison/militia as reserve.
2 points of regulars in reserve.
2 points of mechanized regulars in reserve.
1 point of artillery in reserve.
1 point of first step cultivators in reserve.
2 support point of second step cultivators.
Yokoto- champion (II low).
Unmade new third step- champion (I-high).
Infrastructure:
Fortress 1 (T3).
Fortress 2 (T4).
Fortress 3 (T3).
Supply depo (1000 points of supply).
Town (100 points of supply equivalent to fully evacuate it).
Fortress 2 (T4).
Fortress 3 (T3).
Supply depo (1000 points of supply).
Town (100 points of supply equivalent to fully evacuate it).
Available supply.
Food, ammunition, fuel, healing- infinite.
Artillery ammunition- 5 points.
Demfor forces:
15~ points of garrison/militia.
3~ points of regulars.
2~ points of mechanized regulars.
1 point of first step cultivators.
3 support points of second steps.
1 point of artillery/ heavy equipment.
Maktu- champion (I-high).
unnamed half step- champion (I-mid).
Terkahu- champion (II-high).
3~ points of regulars.
2~ points of mechanized regulars.
1 point of first step cultivators.
3 support points of second steps.
1 point of artillery/ heavy equipment.
Maktu- champion (I-high).
unnamed half step- champion (I-mid).
Terkahu- champion (II-high).
Supply:
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Known information: you "know" (IE its part of the exercises) that all three fortress will be attacked, further you know that only minimal forces would be able to bypass the fortresses (as demfor is imitating non flying enemies).
Future information (for divination): 1) fortress 3 will be hit heavier then the other. 2) Makatu will attack fortress 2. 3) some kind of attack on your supply lines would be attempted.
You may distribute your forces (or strip them) from the following locations:
Fortress 1.
Fortress 2.
Fortress 3.
Supply depo.
Town.
Supply protection.
Expeditionary force (will attempt riads on enemy supply, might do more if enough units are assigned).
Evacuation (each units assigned provides 2 extra evacuation points to spend every "war" turn, mechanized forces provide 6).
Reserve (units in reserve can reinforce every battle in the sector in one combat turn but will get the tired condition, mechanized forces take two combat turns to reinforce but suffer no condition).
Decide how you spread your forces:
[] Plan.
-[] fortress 1 X units moved from reserve.
-[] evacuation, y units moved from town.
-[] ectara.
You must also decide what your champions will do:
-[] Yokoto.
--[] hunt down enemy champion at X (location).
--[] support the defense/battle at X (location)
--[] bog down enemy champion at X*
--[] bog down army groups at X*
*Yokoto special/highly effective actions
-[] Inorku (previously unnamed half step)
--[] hunt down enemy champion at X (location).
--[] support the defense/battle at X (location).
Further you need to decide upon how your forces will fight in the fortresses.
-[] lightly bleed enemy forces and then retreat form the fortress- highest ratio of loses/kills, minimal damage to the fortresses, you will lose the fortresses relatively quickly (as you aren't trying to hold them).
-[] fight until it's no longer viable to get a good K/L ratio and retreat- a good ratio of K/L, medium damage to fortress, can hold for some time.
-[] no retreat- decent to Okey K/L ratio, high damage to fortresses, will hold so long as units aren't overrun.
And lastly, you need to decide what you're evacuating (If you are), you posses 50 points worth of evacuation form civilian infrastructure/car/trucks and any army assigned to evacuation will add their points.
[] no evacuation
-[] evacuate.
--[] evacuate X from y.
And this is everything, we'll be having a 6-hour moratorium to let everyone ask questions and for some plans to form.
Hopefully everything is understandable but I'm here for questions if not.
Remember that all the votes need to be in a plan.
This is likely to be a mess initially but better we do this now than when there are actual consequences you making a mistake from inexperience with the system.
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Roth963
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My first thought about enemies attacking entrenched positions is how modern weaponry influence it.
Trying to run the fortress down seems like a good way to be mowed down by explosives and machines guns, but fortresses likewise are also vulnerable to explosives, and some of our enemies (like champions and cultivators) may be capable of weathering said mortal weapons, and than just slaughter anyone inside.
I think we should have a decoy supply line that pull the enemy into an ambush.
We should prepare and suprise for Maktu at the fortress, stuff like nerve gas and most other unconventional weapons are unlikely to be effective against demons and only helpful against cultivators, so we shouldn't make plans that use them, breathing is also something that Maktu may need, but even ignoring techniques that may allow him to temporarily not breath, it is unlikely to be effective against demons, he can't fly here, so that could give pretty powerful harrassing capabilities.
How fast can Yokoto fly? I remember the emperor could fly in something like mach, but he was also more advanced in basically anything when we got that number.
I want to know if getting rid of Maktu and than moving to the second fortress is feasible.
Do our fortresses have any way to deal with explosives? Anything that effective against artillery? Because I kind of fear them just blowing us up from afar, artillery can reach pretty far, especially when you don't care about collateral.
Trying to run the fortress down seems like a good way to be mowed down by explosives and machines guns, but fortresses likewise are also vulnerable to explosives, and some of our enemies (like champions and cultivators) may be capable of weathering said mortal weapons, and than just slaughter anyone inside.
I think we should have a decoy supply line that pull the enemy into an ambush.
We should prepare and suprise for Maktu at the fortress, stuff like nerve gas and most other unconventional weapons are unlikely to be effective against demons and only helpful against cultivators, so we shouldn't make plans that use them, breathing is also something that Maktu may need, but even ignoring techniques that may allow him to temporarily not breath, it is unlikely to be effective against demons, he can't fly here, so that could give pretty powerful harrassing capabilities.
How fast can Yokoto fly? I remember the emperor could fly in something like mach, but he was also more advanced in basically anything when we got that number.
I want to know if getting rid of Maktu and than moving to the second fortress is feasible.
Do our fortresses have any way to deal with explosives? Anything that effective against artillery? Because I kind of fear them just blowing us up from afar, artillery can reach pretty far, especially when you don't care about collateral.
It could be, speed wise that of course depends on how long the champion fight would last and that can take some time.
They'll hold for a time (a few days) before damage becomes too much, they were built with the understanding that they would need to resist artillery and heavy explosive fire.
And now sure, there is a limit to the things you can do but they'll hold under anything but the heaviest of bombardments.
Also just to note, you don't need to micromanage stuff, just assign units to locations local commanders would then carry out your orders.
He can fly, not flying would hobble keku armies too much for the exercise to be effective, so its just been agreed upon that said flight would not be utilized to strategic benefits (things like bypassing the fortresses, swift reinforcements and a few other stuff).
- Location
- Italy
...I'm kind of completely lost 😅
I don't think I'll be good at this kind of plan, but I'll try. Hopefully Roth has better ideas than me though.
a few things to keep in mind
Artillery: 47 BP per unit, they can do barrage actions. We're tech tier 7 right now, which means 7 barrage actions per round. And we only have 5 artillery munitions points, so we can only do it five times.
If they're going to attack fortress 3 more heavily, my first instinct is to put the artillery there, and use barrage actions to try and thin out the horde. Either that, or to just suppress them while champion units and more mobile units will be defeating the enemy in detail at the other fortresses.
My thought about artillery is that we should try to send a small, elite force (champions and cultivators) to destroy it quickly before retreating to the fortresses. Artillery is not really suited to dealing with champion units after all, their description is for Fodder and army units (for the barrage actions), so sending cultivators in an ambush could work, and they're mobile enough they should be able to retreat quickly