Hmm... how well does Sandwheat work as feed for livestock? I imagine it would do well with chickens, as birds don't have a sense of taste to be offended by it?
 
Research topic suggestion: soil structure and chemistry. We have different grades of farmland to take soil samples from.

EDIT: Also, hydrology -- studying the way that water moves across the land, so as to create better irrigation (and one that avoids salinity issues)
 
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Yes, though they would be behind the second electricity research.
How good is our ability to make pneumatic-powered tools? Because that was the stepping stone between mechanical/hydraulic power source right there and electric's generator somewhere near the town.

Only truly efficient in a small town scale really, but that's what we're dealing with right now.
 
How good is our ability to make pneumatic-powered tools? Because that was the stepping stone between mechanical/hydraulic power source right there and electric's generator somewhere near the town.

Only truly efficient in a small town scale really, but that's what we're dealing with right now.
You would need to reasearch them first, but you could produce some basic version of them. It would be 16 Successes research. (Electric ones would be 20.)
 
Another good tech for us would be learning how to make our own paper. I am thinking a system to bleach and separate sandwheat fibers into pulp and bind them into sheets.

It would reduce the cost of our admin building and have synergy if we build a printing press. We could get into the penny dreadful romance novel business, but write our morals into the stories to spread our virtues beyond just those who are explicitly pilgrams.

It would also be a PR win to have a running harem anime type story with a loveable but unlucky pilgram protagonist.
 
You would need to reasearch them first, but you could produce some basic version of them. It would be 16 Successes research. (Electric ones would be 20.)
Anything beneficial from that research we wouldn't get from the electric one? I'm sure there's some, but I'm not sure just how uneven our technological advancement is thanks to the salvaged nature of some of the inspiration for what we develop.

For example, we learned how to make basic computer circuits of some sort at the same time as cracking electric lighting I think...

So we might end up developing a replacement for the pneumatics that requires a much more advanced technology whilst also barely developing the technology for the simple replacements.
 
Anything beneficial from that research we wouldn't get from the electric one? I'm sure there's some, but I'm not sure just how uneven our technological advancement is thanks to the salvaged nature of some of the inspiration for what we develop.

For example, we learned how to make basic computer circuits of some sort at the same time as cracking electric lighting I think...

So we might end up developing a replacement for the pneumatics that requires a much more advanced technology whilst also barely developing the technology for the simple replacements.
Phnumatic tools are actually generally more powerful than electric, but they need a much more complex power transmission. Electric tools are fairly portable if you can make a portable generator. Phnumatic tools need ether a fluid pump (hydrolics are low speed, high power), a compressor (air phnumatics are high speed, still good power), or direct drive (potentially high speed AND power dependant on your power source).

Electric tools are flexible though, generally able to switch between speed/power by adjusting very simple bits inside them.

Phnumatics, especially air phnumatics are also generally loud as crap.
 
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On the power tools side, we have a plasma torch that is probably beyond our reach for the forseeable future. We also have a soldering kit that is much more affordable to research.

I am thinking a system to bleach and separate sandwheat fibers and bind them into sheets.
I think this would require us to grow sandwheat in the first place. Probably best to wait until the village is set up and have them grow it.
 
On the power tools side, we have a plasma torch that is probably beyond our reach for the forseeable future. We also have a soldering kit that is much more affordable to research.


I think this would require us to grow sandwheat in the first place. Probably best to wait until the village is set up and have them grow it.
Really any fibrous plant would do, from wood to sandwheat to any other crop with tough fibery bits.
 
1. Another good tech for us would be learning how to make our own paper. I am thinking a system to bleach and separate sandwheat fibers into pulp and bind them into sheets.

2. It would reduce the cost of our admin building and have synergy if we build a printing press. We could get into the penny dreadful romance novel business, but write our morals into the stories to spread our virtues beyond just those who are explicitly pilgrams.

3. It would also be a PR win to have a running harem anime type story with a loveable but unlucky pilgram protagonist.
1. Paper is really cheap to buy, and you already buy that in bulk.

2. I'll add the printing press to the list.

3. ...make an action proposal out of that last one and I'll add that to the list.
Anything beneficial from that research we wouldn't get from the electric one? I'm sure there's some, but I'm not sure just how uneven our technological advancement is thanks to the salvaged nature of some of the inspiration for what we develop.

For example, we learned how to make basic computer circuits of some sort at the same time as cracking electric lighting I think...

So we might end up developing a replacement for the pneumatics that requires a much more advanced technology whilst also barely developing the technology for the simple replacements.
See below.
Phnumatic tools are actually generally more powerful than electric, but they need a much more complex power transmission. Electric tools are fairly portable if you can make a portable generator. Phnumatic tools need ether a fluid pump (hydrolics are low speed, high power), a compressor (air phnumatics are high speed, still good power), or direct drive (potentially high speed AND power dependant on your power source).

Electric tools are flexible though, generally able to switch between speed/power by adjusting very simple bits inside them.

Phnumatics, especially air phnumatics are also generally loud as crap.
Pneumatic would be power, but costly, while elcectric would be cheap but less effective. The difference would be 2 turns with pneumatic jackhammer versus electric ones when building an 8 turn building inside the Tree.
 
Another tech path for us to follow would be

Fermentation - > distillation - > biofuels

Sure, it starts with learning how to make booze and better booze, but soon enough you are sending our people out with ethenol stoves so they can have hot meals, stabilizing fuel into napalm, and edging into liquid fuel engines.

Ethenol would also be a good fuel to heat homes at night. If the climate is desert like then it could get quite cold.

EDIT : the other thing I just thought up that would be really cool would be hot air balloons. We may need to have something point us in the right direction, but it could be something as simple as a picture of one or a reference in a book. We could build one and send it up every day to look into the Forest of Rust for threats like the Butcher. It wouldn't be transport seeing as we would tether the balloon, but it would allow us a bird's eye view that reaches for miles and miles around us.

Then we could reinvent telescopes to make the balloon even more effective.

Launch the Ballon at night and have the Pilot carry a signal lantern and they could send and receive messages from anyone with a signal lantern within line of sight of the balloon. Again, this could be miles, even into someplace like the forest of rust.
 
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@HeroCooky what is the general protocol that the major nations use when Fractal Nova wanders near their borders or into their claimed land? Has Eversun tried to kill her yet?
 
Boy, if only we had something that could provide a lift. Like an Anti-Gravity Crystal from the Forest...

*hint hint, nudge nudge*
@HeroCooky what is the general protocol that the major nations use when Fractal Nova wanders near their borders or into their claimed land? Has Eversun tried to kill her yet?
Empire: Yes, what do you want? (Diplomatic approach. They are ambivalent and wary of each other.)
Dul: You have to pay a toll. (Money.)
SBA: *Silent panic while hiding slaves.* (Panic.)
Eversun: Apoplectic Rage. Try to kill her. Again. (False Deity.)
 
Also - while I am brainstorming - electric furnaces. Not only for metal smiting, but for glass as well. Sand is a plentiful resource. Electric furnaces would allow us to get into the glass industry. At first this would be simple things like bottles and windows, but could grow into optics.
 
@HeroCooky how common are fully realized sapient AIs that are intact and want to help humanity like PD? Are they somewhat rare or common or borderline unheard of.

PD is the only fully realized sapient and sentient AI that is intact and wants to help humanity on Calynth. All other AI's are more like 6-year old idiot-savants with free will, and basic personality with minimal interests outside their function.
 
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