Cult Creator - The Pilgrims Journey

HeroCooky · Tuesday at 1:18 PM

MrRageQuit said:
Error checking:
6531+110 = 6641.
3/13, I believe.
Based on last turn, 3 Hospices should have completed, and what happened to aiding the Verdant Children?
We gave this to Silvia, so should it still be listed?

How? How?! Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for your help, but I am checking these numbers four times already. How!? Curse you, mathematics! Curse you!!!

MrRageQuit said:
Wait, we had a contract. Can they just do this unilaterally? In terms of numbers, it's still no big deal. I'm just wondering about the legal precedents.

The Imperial Family can, technically, do that as a Prevter House (what House Dall is) exists to extract a Strategic Ressource. If the IF deems it neccessary, they can up the quota. They, however, do not like doing that, as that gives the Prevter House a lot of leeway to do a lot of bullshit in that pursuit. Like, say, telling the IF that you need serious military hardware, or an city charter for the labor, or some political concessions to get people back to work, or etc. etc. etc.

Altom · Tuesday at 1:21 PM

HeroCooky said:
The Imperial Family can, technically, do that as a Prevter House (what House Dall is) exists to extract a Strategic Ressource. If the IF deems it neccessary, they can up the quota. They, however, do not like doing that, as that gives the Prevter House a lot of leeway to do a lot of bullshit in that pursuit. Like, say, telling the IF that you need serious military hardware, or an city charter for the labor, or some political concessions to get people back to work, or etc. etc. etc

This is better then what I thought we were getting. I was expecting to get Darth Vadered.

HeroCooky · Tuesday at 1:30 PM

Altom said:
This is better then what I thought we were getting. I was expecting to get Darth Vadered.

Surprisingly, autocrats in charge of a nation can't just force people to give them stuff for free without people getting grumbly and putting their heads on spikes. A lesson learned either very fast, or never. The Imperial Family learned Very Fast.

MrRageQuit · Tuesday at 1:31 PM

HeroCooky said:
How? How?! Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for your help, but I am checking these numbers four times already. How!? Curse you, mathematics! Curse you!!!

Have you considered having an Excel sheet to track everything, or at least keep the key numbers in the same place?

HeroCooky · Tuesday at 1:45 PM

MrRageQuit said:
Have you considered having an Excel sheet to track everything, or at least keep the key numbers in the same place?

I already tried.

Profilozof · Tuesday at 1:53 PM

Amilia said:
That was our Suspendium quota that just doubled.

Yes, and? We need to provide the results. For the Emperor.

Amilia · Tuesday at 2:08 PM

Profilozof said:
Yes, and? We need to provide the results. For the Emperor.

We already do? We are the only ones producing non military airships and military airships not immediatly gobbled by the army. We do good work already.

MrRageQuit · Tuesday at 3:54 PM

A couple more error check notes:

HeroCooky said:
Coilgun stats...

So the one issue here is that you have a bunch of varying Armor Penetration values, but the descriptions tend to overlap. For clarity's sake, you might want to format it as: Low Armor Penetration (for 25%) Standard Armor Penetration (for 50%), High Armor Penetration (for 75%).

HeroCooky said:
[ ] Condensed Steam - (Advanced Hydraulics/Mechanics/Metallurgy)
We have steam, yes. But what about higher-pressure steam?
(Chance: 85/25/45% for 1/2/3 Successes, Successes needed: 6

Did you mean -45%? Going back over the pre-Theory numbers, that's what it would suggest.

Amilia · Tuesday at 4:20 PM

Looking at the DC for the troop modules... guess the partybus design is a ways off.

karmaoa · Wednesday at 10:21 AM

HeroCooky said:
Projects:
-Pilgrim Building Fortification (2/4)
-Improved Pilgrim Security (1/4)
-??? (0/1)

Ohh, a mystery project. Short but probably intrigue related, if they don't tell anyone about it.

HeroCooky said:
'The Rustle of the Leaves' - ??.?? - +100 to Pioneer Suspendium/Psychology

HeroCooky said:
The Ache In Bones Left Behind By Unwise Anger And Guilt - ??.?? - +50 to Pioneer Psychology

That are some weird Artifacts. First time we see a +100 bonus, it sounds like a title, so is it a book? The Ache has its worth as question marks, which is also pretty rare.

HeroCooky · Wednesday at 11:25 AM

karmaoa said:
it sounds like a title, so is it a book?

Can confirm, it is a book.

MrRageQuit · Wednesday at 11:32 AM

HeroCooky said:
[X] Tiantemu Alloy Foundry - (8/15 Turns Complete)

One last error note: should be at 11/15.

Proposed plan for people to look at:

[] Plan: There's A Party Here In Norqod
-[L] [Faith] Build Outlying Fortified Orphanages - (4/10 Turns Complete)
-[] [Faith] Cleaning Up The Mess In Mirn - (0/2 Turns Complete) [-10 Goodwill]
--[] Elite Contractors
-[] [Endless Skies] As The Marquess Desires - (Flagship Design)
-[L] [Endless Skies] The Training Halls of the Crews - (1/7 Turns Complete)
-[L] [Endless Skies] The Academy of the Skyneers - (2/6 Turns Complete)
-[L] [Diplomacy] The Great Trade Fleets - (Slatnan's Womb) - (1/3 Turns Complete)
--[] (Ashleaf Tea +15, Common People +15, Merchant Guild +15, 6FF) = +51
-[L] [Subversion] Train Your Infiltrators - (Greater) - (2/4 Turns Complete)
--[] (Prior Failure +10, 6FF) = +16
-[] [Martial] Guards! Guards! (Norquod: Airship Line - Blossom)
-[] [Learning] Coilgun Scattershot Extended - (Pioneer Electronics/Weaponry) - (0/38 Successes)
--[] [DoD], [PD], (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Electronics Manufacture - Ancient Circuits +150, 2[SC] +24, 2[TSC] +36, 2[FC] +120, 2[FS] +120, 6FF) = +476
--[] (5x Bunker Electronic Artifacts +5 to Electronics) = +25
-[] [Learning] Spectating Mass - (Pioneer Machinery/Physics/Electronics) - (0/1 Successes)
--[] (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Electronics Manufacture - Ancient Circuits +150, Head Scholar of the Experimental Wing +50, 6FF) = +226
-[] [Learning] A Study Of Scarlet Blue Pt. 1 - (All Physics/Chemicals/Hydraulics) - (0/9 Successes)
--[] (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Library +5, Adjudicator +50) = +75
--[] (2x Micro-Lance Coolers +20 to Advanced Weaponry/Hydraulics, Coolant Feed System +20 to Advanced Hydraulics, 18x Rare Bunker Manufacturing Artifacts +20 to Advanced Machinery/Hydraulics, 2x Undulating Oil Samples +20 to Advanced Mechanics/Hydraulics, Strange Blood-Like Substance Sample +20 to Advanced Biology/Hydraulics, 2x Artificial Vascular System +20 to Advanced Biology/Metallurgy/Medicine/Hydraulics) = +520
-[] [Learning] Assemble The Theorists! - (Pioneer Electronics) - (0/12 Successes)
--[] [MSC], [VF], (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Electronics Manufacture - Ancient Circuits +150) = +170
--[] (15x Bunker Electronic Artifacts +5 to Electronics) = +75
-[] [Learning] Translations For Beginners - (1x Tenebris Library Book) - (0/1 Success)
--[] (Scientific Theory +15) = +15
-[] [Archeology] Prepare an Expedition - (OH-03) - (1 Turn Prep = 2 Turns Exp.) - (House Mirn support: N)
-[] [Archeology - Piety] Loot The Third Floor (Room #8)
-[] [Archeology] Loot The Third Floor (Room #9)
-[L] [Archeology] The Smokestack's Bowels - (6/9 Turns Complete) - (Rust-Scouts)
--[] (Lead By Example +30, We Can Do It! +10, Trauma: Common People Purge Survivor -5, 22[ENG] +308, 2[TENG] +48, 6FF) = +397
-[L] [Archeology] Excavate The Bones of Roots (4/10 Turns Complete)
-[L] [Tree of Knowledge] Library - (Expanded) - (8/9 Turns Complete)
-[L] [Holdings] Improved Animal Medicine Workshop - Medium - (3/6 Turns Complete)
--[] Hire Contractors x2
-[] [Holdings] Small Toy Manufactury - (0/5 Turns Complete) - [Sandcrete]
--[] Hire Contractors x3
-[L] [Holdings] Tiantemu Alloy Foundry - (11/15 Turns Complete)
--[] Hire Contractors x3
-[] [Martyris] Too Much To Do (A Study Of Scarlet Blue Pt. 1)
-[] [Martyris] Too Much To Do (Prepare An Expedition)
-[] [Aria] Lead By Example (The Smokestack's Bowels)
-[] [Turi] Too Much To Do (Spectating Mass)
-[] [Merchants] Procure (Elite Contractors - Progress to Assigned Building)
-[] [Adventurers] Guardians For Hire (Strul: Expanded Hospice Network)
-[] [Herbalists] Anatomical Lectures - (0/5 Turns Complete) [-1 Faithful]
-[] [4S] In The Name Of Co-Operation! - (Optical Fibers & The Little Crystal That Could Pt. 2) [-25 Goodwill]
-[L] [Vanar-Feer] Unlimited Specialists Galore
--[L] (20x General Scientists - (2/6 Turns Complete)
--[L] (6x Trained Scientists) - (5/10 Turns Complete)
--[L] (10x Trained Engineers) - (5/10 Turns Complete)
--[L] (3x Forge-Coders) - (2/15 Turns Complete)
--[L] (3x Forge-Smiths) - (2/15 Turns Complete)
-[] [Followers of Light] We Work As One - (Build Outlying Fortified Orphanages)

Goodwill Cost: 10+25 = 35

Profilozof · Wednesday at 11:36 AM

MrRageQuit said:
-[] [Endless Skies] As The Marquess Desires - (Flagship Design)

MrRageQuit said:
-[] [Learning] Coilgun Scattershot Extended - (Pioneer Electronics/Weaponry) - (0/38 Successes)
--[] [DoD], [PD], (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Electronics Manufacture - Ancient Circuits +150, 2[SC] +24, 2[TSC] +36, 2[FC] +120, 2[FS] +120, 6FF) = +476
--[] (5x Bunker Electronic Artifacts +5 to Electronics) = +25
-[] [Learning] Spectating Mass - (Pioneer Machinery/Physics/Electronics) - (0/1 Successes)
--[] (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Electronics Manufacture - Ancient Circuits +150, Head Scholar of the Experimental Wing +50, 6FF) = +226
-[] [Learning] A Study Of Scarlet Blue Pt. 1 - (All Physics/Chemicals/Hydraulics) - (0/9 Successes)
--[] (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Library +5, Adjudicator +50) = +75
--[] (2x Micro-Lance Coolers +20 to Advanced Weaponry/Hydraulics, Coolant Feed System +20 to Advanced Hydraulics, 18x Rare Bunker Manufacturing Artifacts +20 to Advanced Machinery/Hydraulics, 2x Undulating Oil Samples +20 to Advanced Mechanics/Hydraulics, Strange Blood-Like Substance Sample +20 to Advanced Biology/Hydraulics, 2x Artificial Vascular System +20 to Advanced Biology/Metallurgy/Medicine/Hydraulics) = +520
-[] [Learning] Assemble The Theorists! - (Pioneer Electronics) - (0/12 Successes)
--[] [MSC], [VF], (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, Electronics Manufacture - Ancient Circuits +150) = +170
--[] (15x Bunker Electronic Artifacts +5 to Electronics) = +75
-[] [Learning] Translations For Beginners - (1x Tenebris Library Book) - (0/1 Success)
--[] (Scientific Theory +15) = +15

I think that we should research the solar panels and put them on the flagship, maybe research some air tech first instead of making the flagship this turn

HeroCooky said:
[ ] Propulse Me Outta Here - (Pioneer Machinery)
Propellers are fast, but the ones we have created can still be improved.
(Chance: 99/99/75 for 1/2/3 Successes, Successes needed: 5
Reward: Advanced Propellers.)

[ ] Electric Pulley And Crane Storage Systems - (Advanced Machinery/Electronics/Mechanics)
A storage bay designed with pulleys and cranes utilizing electricity to move cargo and stack it more efficiently.
(Chance: 99/99/99 for 1/2/3 Successes, Successes needed: 4
Reward: EPC Storage Bays (Small, Medium, Large).)

one of those two could be useful for a better flagship, with me personally being more inclined to the pulley system for better logistics.

Amilia · Wednesday at 11:48 AM

Profilozof said:
with me personally being more inclined to the pulley system for better logistics

The EPC bay is not going to be really feasible. The flagship as it stands has less than 3k lift left unused and it also doesn't have a lot of power left on the engines.

So it wouldn't be a great fit.

Profilozof · Wednesday at 11:50 AM

Amilia said:
The EPC bay is not going to be really feasible. The flagship as it stands has less than 3k lift left unused and it also doesn't have a lot of power left on the engines.

So it wouldn't be a great fit.

Fair, that's fair I still think better engine would be very useful. We don't want flagship to lag behind it escorts that we will make in few years

Amilia · Wednesday at 11:55 AM

Profilozof said:
Fair, that's fair I still think better engine would be very useful. We don't want flagship to lag behind it escorts that we will make in few years

I think it would be upgraded automatically. After all, propulsion modules tend to be Lift positive at this point.

Profilozof · Wednesday at 11:56 AM

Amilia said:
I think it would be upgraded automatically. After all, propulsion modules tend to be Lift positive at this point.

Would they, I mean we would probably need to replace them and even if not, something made with given engine in mind should work better

MrRageQuit · Wednesday at 12:27 PM

Profilozof said:
I think that we should research the solar panels and put them on the flagship, maybe research some air tech first instead of making the flagship this turn

It's not feasible in normal Learning actions, hence why In The Name Of Co-Operation! has it included.

Profilozof · Wednesday at 12:44 PM

HeroCooky said:
[ ] Savoring Sunlight
An idea was recently floated to the Research Halls by Pilgrim Oraion to investigate the use cases of covering an airship with solar panels to reduce its Power requirements by continually producing power for low weight and Structure costs. Certainly worth investigating.
(Chance: -20/-78/-156 for 1/2/3 Successes, Successes needed: 12
Reward: Unlock Solar Paneling for Airships.)

I am pretty sure we can do solar panels for airships in normal learning it is in Physics And Hydraulics, admittedly we do need a lot of bonuses for it, so fair enough

HeroCooky · Wednesday at 1:14 PM

Profilozof said:
I am pretty sure we can do solar panels for airships in normal learning it is in Physics And Hydraulics, admittedly we do need a lot of bonuses for it, so fair enough

Fixed. It is now in the Airship section where it belongs.

MrRageQuit · Wednesday at 1:27 PM

HeroCooky said:
Fixed. It is now in the Airship section where it belongs.

Hmm. Okay, with the specified field types, I can remove Sunlight from the In The Name Of Co-Operation and switch in Optical Fibers. Then after a couple turns of Electronics Theories + Spectrometer, it becomes a viable research option.

Do you mind specifying field types for the army transport modules as well?

HeroCooky · Wednesday at 1:48 PM

MrRageQuit said:
Do you mind specifying field types for the army transport modules as well?

Uuuh, Hydraulics?

karmaoa · Wednesday at 1:51 PM

HeroCooky said:
Can confirm, it is a book.

Hmm, do we want to switch that out in the Library? Would be a +10 to Suspendium/Psychology. We have a bunch of Psychology Artifacts, but boosts to Suspendium are rarer.

We're going to finish the Expanded Library this Turn, though, so might be better to just wait and slot it in then.

Amilia · Wednesday at 2:27 PM

Profilozof said:
Would they, I mean we would probably need to replace them and even if not, something made with given engine in mind should work better

At that point, the ship is the responsibility of the Marquess/the Army. It would be their responsibility to keep the ship up to specs.

MrRageQuit · Wednesday at 5:01 PM

karmaoa said:
We're going to finish the Expanded Library this Turn, though, so might be better to just wait and slot it in then.

Yes, particularly because the bonus increases at that point as well.

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