Cult Creator - The Pilgrims Journey
- Thread starter HeroCooky
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- Original Mature
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
You'll get options to stop the development, alter the priorities of construction, the resources they recieve when starting, get your hands in the whole buisness, drum up support from the Healers and Merchants Guild, and can (as you have completed the building) send military protection their way on your coin.
Well shit we need to upgrade our info rank to get in the daughter of roses
We have a -95 malus against them. That will need to rest for a couple of turns at least.
Crafter of War
The Dorf
- Location
- Bend
Does anyone get the feeling that pulling the trigger too soon backfired? We only got rank 1 infiltration with info that doesn't really do much.
- Location
- United States
Even better, our Mutated Rights figurehead Aria.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Is Baron Esker in any position to put pressure on House Ulatarn WRT the Mutated Villages? Norqod only worked out as well as it did because we took an active role in ensuring that the QoL matched our basic standards. While I assume that we'll be applying our own pressure on House Ulatarn, and getting involved with the villages directly, having more voices from their fellow nobles on our side will be a great boon to our efforts.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Yes, and he'd be pretty much perfect at doing so, as he had 2 BHVs in his territory before being converted. Since then, he spent his time cleaning up the horrific mess they were, with him being pretty much horrified 90% of the time he spent on the projects.
Sandwheat does not care.
Sandwheat would look at concrete and snort that harder than dandelions.
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- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
In that case, I think if we did a major PR campaign about the horrific state of most BHVs and how Norqod was an exception rather than a standard example, by using Baron Esker's experiences as a foundation for our rhetoric, we'd have a much more beneficial outcome than simply trying to stop the construction of the new villages completely.
The common people are generally positive about the mutated villages because they have no idea what they are actually like, while the Mutated are freaking out because they are very aware of what the conditions in those villages are.
The common people are generally positive about the mutated villages because they have no idea what they are actually like, while the Mutated are freaking out because they are very aware of what the conditions in those villages are.
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I doubt they care. You don't get systematic abuse and neglect like that unless you are okay with it at the top.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
Y'know we could always just send them a codex on how to build and manage a Pilgrim style Village and avoid the whole mess that way.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
The problem with the villages is not that the noble houses don't know how to run a village, it's that they don't care to do so if it's only mutated living within them.
The how do people starve in those villages? Do they not know how to farm or do they get taxed to oblivion and/or raided?
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Adjuctator bonuses. Also aria is a kinght pilot not a politician let her enjoy her honeymoon and he refound family.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
If you go into it with an moralistic argument they will not give a fuck but we woud not go with the ever popular
( In SV) moralistic stance but rather an ultilitarian stance.
Is not "this is wrong" and more "this will backfire horribly, radicalize the mutated and non-mutated, and diminish both your power and region stability" this why the spreadsheet.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Gangs taking their cut, raids, people intentionally setting fire to the fields, taxes in coin or work taking up a huge portion of their time/income, a near lack of any trade to replenish seeds if you had a bad year (not only in growing), a general lack of farming not paying out so people don't bother, and probably a few I am forgetting right now.
I think even that is too moralistic for the noble houses.
I also think house Ulatarn genuinely think it has a great idea and it will help the Mutated. We have all seen a government draw up plans saying it will help when it in fact does jack shit.
We have to show them why it will not work. Show spreadsheets on how the villages will fail and become economic black holes from which people can't escape. The nobles don't give a shit about Mutated feelings, but they might take hard data into account, hopefully.
PS: I wonder if Norqod will see an influx of Mutated that choose to move before they are forced to go to a BHV.
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Oh, fuck you.
Not. Fucking. Happening.
I've missed something important.
Who?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
A random noble you helped some years ago in the background deal with a crisis of faith after he had a Mutated Child, and ended up converting him to the Pilgrimage.
I think the situation is best summed up as this
Ulatarn: I'm going to make a prosperous community for mutants to live safely
Most Mutants and the Pilgrims: OH SHIT THIS IS A BAD IDEA IT'S ANOTHER GHETTO, BATTLE STATIONS, RELEASE THE MARTIS
posting aside though I think a better alternative would be to make a mixed community of artisans or workers in niche categories so that they'll mix but won't turn violent because someone used the mutated as strikebreaking labor
Ulatarn: I'm going to make a prosperous community for mutants to live safely
Most Mutants and the Pilgrims: OH SHIT THIS IS A BAD IDEA IT'S ANOTHER GHETTO, BATTLE STATIONS, RELEASE THE MARTIS
posting aside though I think a better alternative would be to make a mixed community of artisans or workers in niche categories so that they'll mix but won't turn violent because someone used the mutated as strikebreaking labor