@HeroCooky a suggested holding action, a hospital. I know we probably built some clinics with the service buildings, but with the amount of people moving in we might need a proper hospital.
Cult Creator - The Pilgrims Journey
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HeroCooky
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Will add that right away!
Edit: Done and added. You can now expand medical availability via Norqod!
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Depressing note to go on hiatus with.
You know, it would be cool if we could turn it into a teaching hospital. It would be cool to start something like a college in general. We are connected to what is going to be the core of the first safe intercity transit network. It would be cool to set up a full on school, perhaps even going so far as to scout for talent outside the Pilgrim faith to teach in it.
We could internally finance education for the less fortunate with scholarships and loans to be paid off after they have marketable skills. We could involve students in research as aids and assistants.
The core of the idea would be to basically significantly build up our ability to teach new scientists, doctors, and engineers and then throw open our doors to all comers, Pilgrim or not. Bring them in along the airship network and send them back out again along the same network. Raising the baseline level of competency of the empire can only help us in the longrun.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
That is after stage 2 of the hospital. When you have built that, you can add a lot of modules and add-ons to the building.
That is... not going to work without taking a -4 to piety rolls per turn. Its either fully free for everyone like your school in Mirn, or, well, piety malus.
As said, you will be able to do just that, but after having the specific add-on and around ~6 specialists. Still have to figure out the best number, but it is a thing you can do!
It seems like killing the Mother will have to wait until this catastrophe is dealt with. At least it didn't wake her up, right?
Not many new Artefacts. We might be able to research the Low-Grade Conductor to reduce the upkeep of our electronic workshop but not much more.
Ohh, someone is romantically interested in Aria? If they aren't somewhere outside of the Tree, I give it good odds that PD knows about it.
Ah, so on the ship, maybe even in transit. I'm curious what the vent-thing was. A pet? Did he built a drone as a hobby and lost it?
Must be creepy for the maintenance crew.
Ah, this is the first time we hear that title IC. At least I think none of the scouts during the first meeting with the DOD spoke machine.
I... don't think there is a biological equivalent. The closest would be to consciously and constantly not to think about certain things or maybe being drugged.
Good to know. Probably not relevant given the earthquake, but we could station a unit there. Any Adventurers will be busy with other stuff.
It was lucky we got them out before the earthquake came.
Ah, the differences between different architectural schools of thought. Like all things artistical they are subjective, and like all subjective things they have and will cause many fistfights.
Month-old as in "sealed and refrigerated" or month-old as in "plainly sealed"? Because keeping something fresh for a month without refrigeration would be huge.
Ah, crap.
Ok, we should coordinate with the Herbalists, the Military, and the Bureau For Imperial Civilian Logistics. Then we can lend the DOD to the Bureau for transporting huge amounts of relief goods. The Herbalists could probably also use every bit of Bloodbark they can get. We also should open the Medical Wing of the Tree for anyone that needs help, we would need the Cutters for transport though. Maybe open the school as a shelter too, depending on how the building is doing.
Then, of course, "Ready Immediate Aid For (Mirn/Ularn/Jokvi/Tessen/Strul/Zulmni)", probably with a loan and maybe "Healing For All!" on top.
And now for some planning stuff, @HeroCooky
This Learning Action misses what type of Artefacts could be used. Probably Hydraulic/Machinery/Metallurgy?
I don't think the Contractors option makes sense here, at least if they can't time-travel.
I imagine it would be like learning to do stressful things while managing your bloodpressure. You constantly hold yourself back and above the stress so you don't let your bloodpressure skyrocket. You can function just fine on the low end, but can't throw yourself fully into something stressful without risk.
HeroCooky
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@Some_guy_161 knows.
Among Us referrence.
The first. Turi isn't that far gone or smart.
Oh, you can totally keep milk good for months at a time without having to refrigerate it. Pasteurization is able to remove all the bacteria from milk if you do it long enough. The thing is you need to then place the milk in a sufficiently sealed opaque container and a standard milk jug isn't going to cut it. A tin can will though. Canned milk is generally good for 18-24 months, and that's just the label limit. It's generally safe to consume after that, it's just that nobody plays with botulism so we throw it out even if there is just a 1% chance it kills you.
The milk you buy in the store generally isn't actually that well pasteurized. They don't hold the temperature with perfect consistency nor long enough to kill everything, just most things. You can buy "ultra-pasteurized" milk that last significantly longer both in and out of your fridge.
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HeroCooky
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Yeah, that is what the second food preservation option you unlocked will do.
But for the moment, she has literally stumbled upon the process and doesn't have enough confidence to take too many risks.
Though this also brings up the idea of refrigerated cargoholds on airships once we have powered flight. It wouldn't be too hard to divert some of the engine output to spinning a compressor as well as the airscrew. We could reliably deliver frozen food, allowing fresh meat to arrive at a fraction of the cost.
It would also allow us to supply a crew for much longer, giving ships a longer travel distance.
And there are a lot of medicines that need to be refrigerated.
And aircondition the crew and passenger quarters.
@HeroCooky I have a question about Suspendium. Does it get hot if a current runs through it or if pressurized?
We got the "Prototype Unique Component" Action this turn and I'm curious if we could use waste heat from the Suspendium bags/containers to run a Stirling engine, as propulsion.
We got the "Prototype Unique Component" Action this turn and I'm curious if we could use waste heat from the Suspendium bags/containers to run a Stirling engine, as propulsion.
Considering we have to run electricity to the suspendium in the first place, this seems sorta redundant. You are adding weight to the airship when you could just use the battery to power instead of trying to use that same energy but twice removed.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
There is no change in temperature that you can measure when running a current through suspendium.
As for pressurized suspendium, well, who knows? You'd need to research it to figure that out. The DoD isn't a helpnin that regard as its systems are too advanced and black boxed for you to glimpse what is happening.
The idea was that most of the electricity goes to the Suspendium anyway, so using the waste heat of the Suspendium to get propulsion means we can use more electricity on the Suspendium, allowing the ship to be longer in the air.
But that doesn't work anyway if the Suspendium translates all of the electricity into anti-gravity without any losses/waste heat.
[] Plan Disaster Relief
-[][Faith] Build Upon A 'Consensual' - (Mirn) - (2/3 Turns Complete)
-[][Faith] Healing For All! - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (7 Materials)
-[][Faith - One Turn] ???
-[][Diplomacy] New Settlement, Who Dis? - (5/6 Turns Complete)
-[][Martial] Build An Armory - (Grand) - (1/4 Turns Complete)
--[] Station the the Wall unit at the Mirn Consensual
-[][Learning] Learning To Take Census Pt.1 - (All Psychology) - (10/14 Successes)
--[] [PD], [DoD], [In The Name Of Profit], Scientific Theory +15, +4 FF
--[] "Flight Related Sicknesses And Cures" Manual +20 to Advanced Psychology
-[][Learning] Illness Of The Mind - (Psychology)- (2/15 Successes)- (Uses: Somnia In Sempiternum +20 to Advanced Psychology)
--[] Scientific Theory +15, +6 FF
--[] -
-[][Learning] Lend A Hand, Arm, And Leg - Part 1 - (All Mechanics/All Electronics) - (Uses: Dilapidated Prosthetic) - (0/4 Successes)
--[] 1 [ENGI] +14, Scientific Theory +15, +3 FF
--[] Chainsword +5 to Common Mechanical, Low-Grade Conductor +5 to Electronics, Warped Cuircuits +20 to Advanced Electronics,
-[][Archeology] Scout The Eastern Outskirts - (0/1 Turns Complete)
--[] +1 FF
-[][Tree of Knowledge] Laboratories - Grand - (1/5 Turns Complete)
-[][Tree of Knowledge] Library - (Basic) - (0/6 Turns Complete) - (-26.50 Materials)
-[][Holdings] Contractual Expansion - (0/2 Turns Complete) - (Upkeep: 13 Materials, Tax Income: 21 Materials) - [Sandcrete](-12.5 Materials)
--[] Housing Quality: Good
-[][Aria action] Too Much To Do - (Ready Immediate Aid For (Mirn/Ularn/Jokvi/Tessen/Strul/Zulmni) - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (24.25 Materials *6=145.5 Materials))
-[][Martyris action] Too Much To Do - (???)
-[][Martyris action] Too Much To Do - (Assemble The Theorists! - (Common Metallurgy) - (1/3 Successes)
--[] 1 [SC] +12, Scientific Theory +15, Adjudicator +50, +3 FF,
--[] Samples Of Neuionum +50 to Pioneer Metallurgy
-[] Merchants - (All Are Free Actions)
--[] Take Out A Flat Loan - (100 Materials loaned for four turns at 5% interest)
--[] Backroom Deals - (Black Box)
-[] The Adventurer Guild - (1 Action)
--[] Investigate - (-3 Materials)
---[] The "noises" some Mutated complain about. Mutated Adventurers preferred, in case it's something that's outside the human hearing spectrum.
-[] The Union Of Herbalists - (Choose 1 Action)
-[]-
-[] Stupendously Scholastic Scholars of Science - (1 Action)
--[] In The Name Of Profit - (Learning To Take Census Pt.1) - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (-15 Materials)
-[] Forge Clan Vanar-Feer - (1 Action Locked)
--[] Engineers Galore - (Engineer) - (3/6 Turns Complete) - (-15 Materials)
-[] The Bureau For Imperial Civilian Logistics - (1 Action)
--[] -
Costs: 7 Materials+ 26.50 Materials+ ???+ 12.5 Materials+ 145.5 Materials+ 3 Materials+ 15 Materials+ 15 Materials= 224.5 Materials
Remaining budget: 150.82 Materials + 100 Materials - 224.5 Materials= 26.32 Materials
I'm not sure if this counts as a double post but here is a plan draft. The focus is on disaster relief with Aria doing "Ready Immediate Aid For" because that doesn't require a dice roll and because I can't imagine her relaxing right now.
"Learning To Take Census Pt.1" is guaranteed to finish with those Boni and I start "Illness Of The Mind" because there are going to be a mountain of traumatized people. "Lend A Hand, Arm, And Leg - Part 1" for similar reasons, with the Chainsword as a bonus because it amuses me. Might add Electric Collars/Shackles/Implants, if that would get us some basic nerve reading capabilities.
The Adventurers look into the noises because the Military is busy with other stuff and I don't want to get jumped by the next problem.
And now some questions. @HeroCooky
1. We still have 100% Piety, which Category gets a one-Turn Action this Turn?
2. Could we switch what's inside of the Black Box? Switching the Hololithic Cube for the Gutted Core would be nice, due to our biggest projects being Psychology based and the scarcity of relevant Artefacts.
3. How does the building quality of "Contractual Expansion" affect the numbers of built houses and their population?
4. Does have "Healing For All!" any effect, with most cities being in chaos this Turn?
5. Would disaster relief be something the Bureau For Imperial Civilian Logistics does or is it more a Followers of Light thing, with them gathering donations from all over the Empire.
If it's a Followers thing I would prioritize contacting them this Turn. Might do that anyway for coordination purposes.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Holding does, thanks for reminding me.
Yeah, just make an action with [Black Box] (XYZ) to (ABC) into the plan.
The better the quality, the less people will be able to afford it, and the less units are built. I wrote a small indicator underneath the actions to show which grade is common for which social class.
It does, as you are pumping more money and supplies into the efforts to save/help people.
The Bureau would handle the official state efforts, while the Followers of Light would throw in support like churches in RL would do.
Given we have a free holding action, we could switch this with Engine Assembly and blitz it with money. That would increase the prosperity in Norqod which would mean more people can afford better housing. (and the money will be nice)
Though I still believe we will have to bump the quality down to average.
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...I guess we could but, that would be ridiculously extreme. Compressing 7 Turns into 1 is...
@HeroCooky Can we do that? Is it physically possible to stuff that many Contractors into one building?
Even if it takes 2-3 turns we should still do it. A large portion of those moving in are mutated and they cannot afford even decent housing. We don't have a housing problem yet, so we can afford to let it tick for a couple of turns.
After all, what's the point of building houses a good chunk of the populace can't afford?
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@HeroCooky, how old is Chiedi?
HeroCooky
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You can. It would be the mother of all rush-jobs with future problems, but you could.Can we do that? Is it physically possible to stuff that many Contractors into one building?
24-ish. I had her pegged at 3 yeats older than Aria, though I don't have my notes right now. I'll look it up after work.