Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!

Actually the way I see it the nukes are big in order to saturate the area and kill everything in a targeted region. All of Hope, the entire planet, is swarming with demons so glassing entire continents with high yield weaponry could be the strategy they are looking for.

If Heaven had fighters that were near divine in capability coming out in the invasion of Hope, I could see Hell doing the same thing, bringing out their near Divine fighters.

The Nukes would be perfect for such targets as well. Plus it seems like the Fragarachs are only one of the nukes that are being used and probably one of the biggest.
 
It is, legally, an independent force outside of the government. It does not take orders from the government, it takes polite suggestions.
Where is that horrifying rating?

That makes the slightest modicum of sense for the start of the war, without a central authority that knew what was going on telling the military to 'kill them demons' first and worry about jurisdiction later might seem acceptable. That it's continuing could mean a few different things. The most benign is that Counter Force is held in much higher regard than the actual government, and Unified Light is leaning on humanity to keep the CF off the leash. Less benevolently Counter Force leaders might just be waiting for some sort of restriction they can sell as unreasonable to use as pretext for a coup.
 
Added the Divine Being signifiers to the TVTropes page for the quest.

It really needs work done to bring it up to current events.
I'm working on it! I have my work stored in a .txt file, so I can work on it freely, without worry of the time limit.

And please stop copy-pasting. A good chunk of the changes I'm making is rewriting your stuff. :/
Where is that horrifying rating?

That makes the slightest modicum of sense for the start of the war, without a central authority that knew what was going on telling the military to 'kill them demons' first and worry about jurisdiction later might seem acceptable. That it's continuing could mean a few different things. The most benign is that Counter Force is held in much higher regard than the actual government, and Unified Light is leaning on humanity to keep the CF off the leash. Less benevolently Counter Force leaders might just be waiting for some sort of restriction they can sell as unreasonable to use as pretext for a coup.
Fun times are ahead for humanity if the UL wins the war. :V
 
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On a completely unrelated note I'm reasonably sure that Wail of Madness will do horrible things to our psyche/soul, and send us on a one way trip to the Abominable End. I don't think anybody wants that.

If we ever truly become that desperate, and want to go on an absolutely certain suicide run against False Hell, it's only 10 xp anyway. No need to keep it in mind or to save for it until relevant.

Its the Hard Girl Making Hard choice path forced by avoiding the power of friendship path.
In the end, this is all that really needs to be said on the matter.
 
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On a completely unrelated note I'm reasonably sure that Wail of Madness will do horrible things to our psyche/soul, and send us on a one way trip to the Abominable End. I don't think anybody wants that.
What no, it's totally benevolent and made of puppies and kittens and flowers and cotton candy, why ever would you think that?
/dripping sarcasm
 
What no, it's totally benevolent and made of puppies and kittens and flowers and cotton candy, why ever would you think that?
/dripping sarcasm
/ignoring sarcasm
From the time we've seen the Gehaburn effect it was when Nepgear was overwhelmed by grief from killing Cady Heart. Once she calmed down a bit the boost went away. I speculate that Wail of Madness keeps replaying Solid Core killing her friends so she never calms down, prolonging the effect indefinitely.

"Suicide run" sound like a perfect description of what that would result in. :V
 
@crystalwatcher, I have a question about the Dark Star fighters. Earlier in the quest, you said that most non-human practitioners were limited to the classical elements for their magic. While I could understand Angels and Demons being an exception to this because of their natures as beings created by belief, prayers and broken promises, I don't understand why the Dark Star spell casters present have the Chaos Affinity.

Basically, I'm wondering what races are limited to the classical elements and not more esoteric Affinities.
 
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@crystalwatcher, I have a question about the Dark Star fighters. Earlier in the quest, you said that most non-human practitioners were limited to the classical elements for their magic. While I could understand Angels and Demons being an exception to this because of their natures as beings created by belief, prayers and broken promises, I don't understand why the Dark Star spell casters present have the Chaos Affinity.

Basically, I'm wondering what races are limited to the classical elements and not more esoteric Affinities.
Here's what he said:
Elves lean heavily towards fire and earth-based magic, and run on what was originally considered the 'normal' Five-Element Wheel of Fire-Earth-Water-Air-Spirit/Ether/Will/(Insert pure energy form identifier here). Fairies tended towards Air, Earth, and Spirit as they referred to it, while Dark Star were Fire and Water.
There's a very important "were" with regards to the Dark Stars.

Also, the different between "elemental" and "conceptual" affinities seem to while elemental affinities involve directly manipulating the involved substance (so Judgement uses literal light and hope for it's effects), while conceptual affinities work on a more abstract basis.

So the "Chaos" Affinity would be manipulating a substance/energy that can be viewed as "Chaos", most likely a form of magic energy in itself.
 
Looking at Nepgear's current stats, the main difference between her and the top 10 MG seems to be that her spells are not that good compared to them.
 
Looking at Nepgear's current stats, the main difference between her and the top 10 MG seems to be that her spells are not that good compared to them.
It's also been previously confirmed that the Goddesses all have huge stacks of XP waiting to be spent, and that if she felt the need to get stronger, there's a super ability waiting for Rei to claim it.

Quite a few of the top 20 also have passive abilities that are powerful enough that they can partially counteract Nepgear's OP super abilities.
 
Anyway, I've created my own plan:

[X] Plan Saviour
-[X] Solid Core will start by clearing out as many hostile ground forces as possible with a single Starshine.
-[X] Solid Core will then engage the Hell Beasts to clear out the airspace and free up Judgement Drive.
-[X] Solid Drive will backup Judgement Drive. Their mission, once Judgement Drive is clear of the Hell Beasts, is to take out the Dark Star Summoners.
--[X] If successful, they are to support the Messengers.
-[X] James, Lucky and Samael will deploy to Messenger 1 to support M.E.C.A Force.
--[X] If enemy is cleared, move to support Messenger 2.
-[X] Michael, Gabriel, and Aquila will deploy to Messenger 2 to relieve Judgement Core and the defenders.
--[X] If enemy is cleared, moved to support Messenger 1.
-[X] Skybound Gunship is to eliminate any enemy ground forces it can safely attack.
-[X] If ground forces are destroyed, focus all firepower on clearing any remaining Hell Beasts.

Reasoning: Messenger 2 has two soldiers near death, and are facing the larger force. Gabriel's aura will heal the injured and damage the enemies, while Michael will ensure that Gabriel is doing at least 17,400 damage per swing, more then enough to insta-kill an enemy, while insta-killing them himself. Aquila will be providing support as well.

James will be to help get M.E.C.A Force out of melee, while Lucky will open up with her spells. Samael's Shell spell will help the defenders there as well, rendering them immune to damage from a single Soul Reaver.
 
Yeah, that plan looks pretty good.

It also leaves us next to the Drives to try triggering Progenitor Frame when the UD's inevitable backup arrives.

[X] Plan Saviour
 
Umm... from the top here.

The SS-27 is road mobile. Probably more so then the Messengers considering it's top speed of 45km/h compared to the shuttle crawler's 1.6km/h.


You clearly need to look up MIRVs; they are flashy as hell.

This is a test, no warheads, from a Peacekeeper missile:
Now imagine one of these:

going off at the terminus of each of those rays of light. Well technically that was 500kt, closest I could find, but a 350kt would be about the same.

Oh and for a fictional example of how cool MIRVs can be:

although admittedly those are crazy big explosions, >10 gigaton, but I think my point on coolness is made.


Already mentioned that:

You'd want a few nukes for that but the vast majority would be smaller ones.

Lemme think over the whole nuke thing, kick the box, and see what falls out.

@crystalwatcher - Is there a range limit to Gabriel's Presence of Light?
Gabriel can cover at least one Messenger at a time. The other Messenger is just out of range in order to keep chances for friendly fire down between the transports.

you might want to use a different hand wave. Generally the level of incompetence needed for bureaucrats to screw with staratgic weapons deployment is terminal in a serous conflict.

an alternative hand wave would be the invention of magic necessitated a bunch of additional protections and penetration aids had to be added to each warhead, to the point that it makes MIRVs impractical. Same with the missiles, ICBMS are great but there not designed to deal with stuff like demons teleporting in on a suicide run during the assent phase, or precogs plotting the missiles path ahead of time and opening a portal in its way.

so the new missiles and the delivery vehicle are a bit of a kludge thrown together to deal with magical bullshit in a hurry. its not petty, has some major issues and most likely more than a few design oversights but it works and its ready in time for the assault on hope. So far humanity hasn't been portrayed as suffering from the kind of systematic incompetence that a sloppy nuke deployment would hint at.
This could work.

This just serves to highlight how inefficient and slow a global government is going to be. Even normal, national governments are horribly bureacratic and prone to corruption and only get worse the bigger they are.

Thankfully the Counter Force has just the right combination of power, autonomy, dedication and sheer hatred of the UD to be able to function effectively.

I guess that while Humanity is the absolute best at all things Warfare, but not so much at the rest of this bureaucracy thing. Gaia really should have thought our build out a bit more thoroughly when making her weapons.
To be fair, when Gaia started planning it all out she didn't know much about bureaucracy and how important it would be.

Added the Divine Being signifiers to the TVTropes page for the quest.

It really needs work done to bring it up to current events.
I KNOW, RIGHT?!

Nepgear is still under Glass Cannon :V

Where is that horrifying rating?

That makes the slightest modicum of sense for the start of the war, without a central authority that knew what was going on telling the military to 'kill them demons' first and worry about jurisdiction later might seem acceptable. That it's continuing could mean a few different things. The most benign is that Counter Force is held in much higher regard than the actual government, and Unified Light is leaning on humanity to keep the CF off the leash. Less benevolently Counter Force leaders might just be waiting for some sort of restriction they can sell as unreasonable to use as pretext for a coup.

Fun times are ahead for humanity if the UL wins the war. :V
You guys remember when I said that the Akashic Pillar is currently little more than a house of cards, glued together and dressed up like fort nox? Yeah... about that. :V

@crystalwatcher, I have a question about the Dark Star fighters. Earlier in the quest, you said that most non-human practitioners were limited to the classical elements for their magic. While I could understand Angels and Demons being an exception to this because of their natures as beings created by belief, prayers and broken promises, I don't understand why the Dark Star spell casters present have the Chaos Affinity.

Basically, I'm wondering what races are limited to the classical elements and not more esoteric Affinities.
Chaos is Dark Star's "Ather/Spirit/insert-pure-energy-form-here" equivalent.
 
/ignoring sarcasm
From the time we've seen the Gehaburn effect it was when Nepgear was overwhelmed by grief from killing Cady Heart. Once she calmed down a bit the boost went away. I speculate that Wail of Madness keeps replaying Solid Core killing her friends so she never calms down, prolonging the effect indefinitely.

"Suicide run" sound like a perfect description of what that would result in. :V

Sounds like fun times.

<---- Is a terrible person.
 
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