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Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!

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crystalwatcher said:
the modern fusion bomb averaged out at 40 megatons of TNT in destructive force
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Just realised something: this is the average. Who says the nukes the Messengers are wielding are average? I mean, right after that is this:
crystalwatcher said:
A single Fragarach was more than enough to flatten nearly any known target: all one had to do was think of the Oblivion Incident, and how Humanity had fatally wounded a Divine Entity with one.
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If we assume 60 of them is enough to completely glass a continent, and such a statement isn't hyperbole, and assuming magic allows the explosion to follow the curve of the planet rather then blasting off into space, then a Fragarach would be a 60 teraton nuke.

Though I prefer the "magic is used to evenly spread out the damage to everything within range" explanation instead. You'd only need around a 4 gigaton nuke then.
 
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It occurs to me that now that we have hard(ish) numbers for how much a nuke does of X biggatons does, someone could theoretically calculate what the biggatons/damage ratio is so we could know how much TNT our lasers are worth.

Probably be a lot of work for minimal gain, though.
 
LostDeviljho said:
Probably be a lot of work for minimal gain, though.
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There is basically no work required here though?

Now this is going to be a very rough approximation as it doesn't really take into account Fragarach's abilities which in practice would effect the TNT equivalence. What's more we only really have one data point; which isn't good since it means we have no idea how damage scales against TNT equivalence and instead pretty much have to assume a linear relationship.

The only data point we have says that 15,000,000 damage is equvilant to approximately 40,000,000 tons of TNT. The math thus is pretty simple and comes out to each point of damage being worth 2.67 tons of TNT.

Ta-dah!

Of course now is the point where I mention that obviously it can't be a linear scaling because otherwise CMGQ!Humans can tank 266 tons of TNT without a scratch and require at least 1.6 kilotons to kill. Oh and Nepgear's Purifier Beam would be equvilant to this:

and be destroying cities with each blast, note that above is about the same yield as the bomb at Hiroshima.

Unfortunately we can't really estimate what sort of non-linear scaling may be used without at least one, and preferably two, additional data points.
 
UberJJK said:
Unfortunately we can't really estimate what sort of non-linear scaling may be used without at least one, and preferably two, additional data points.
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Well, at 20,000 damage, you start causing it starts causing splash damage even without abilities like "collateral damage". At around 85,000 damage, stray blows from a melee would "rearrange the landscape".

Gaia, who is explicitly an entire planet, has a Base Resilience 11,500,000, and Health of 35,000,000. Killing her would entire destroying the entire planet.

Meanwhile, the Brahmastra are literal "fuck this entire world, and everything on and in it" nukes.

Rei's "Oblivion Awaits" can depopulate an entire continent and damages planetary bodies at 10,000,000 damage.

Cosmos, who is the entire LDC, has a health of 155,000,000,000,000,000. Void has a health of 85,000,000,000,000,000.

Starslayer, which allows someone to harm up to Star-Stream class Divine Entities, has a x100,000 damage modifier.
 
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LostDeviljho said:
That's like asking "if our star cluster is the 'the local star cluster' does that mean there's a 'distant star cluster'?"
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yes, i realized i phrased that poorly after i posted it. My question was based upon this:
Gore17 said:
Cosmos, who is the entire LDC,
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If Cosmos was the LDC does that mean there is a different progenitor/origin/whatever for other clusters? or is it that the LDC is simply one part of Cosmos.

I really should have paid attention to my wording, sorry.
 
Whelp, I learned something new. This entire time I've been under the impression that LDC was short for 'Light-Dark Conflict'. I now know that it's 'Local Dimensional Cluster'.

Acronyms, my eternal nemesis.
 
So it's a required defensive escort mission. Something is going to go horribly wrong.

Required, needed, mandatory, so many ways to say the one thing, none of them look right.
 
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UberJJK said:
The GM's co-planers basically came out and said this was the mission we needed to do first. Admittedly they have a point since going by what we've seen, and what they've hinted at, Judgement Core and probably Judgement Drive would have died without us.
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I was voting without using my unfair knowledge, actually.

And Judgement Drive has a teleport spell. If needed, she'd grab JC and high-tail it.
 
"Required" nothin'. The final vote was 17-15 in favor of "The Ultimate Weapon" mission vs "The Valhallan Front" mission.
 
I went ahead and tallied all the votes. At the moment, Plan Savior is winning by one vote.

Vote Tally : Original - Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest! | Page 391 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.5

[X] Plan Saviour
-[X] Solid Core will start by clearing out as many hostile ground forces as possible with a single Starshine.
-[X] Solid Core will then engage the Hell Beasts to clear out the airspace and free up Judgement Drive.
-[X] Solid Drive will backup Judgement Drive. Their mission, once Judgement Drive is clear of the Hell Beasts, is to take out the Dark Star Summoners.
--[X] If successful, they are to support the Messengers.
-[X] James, Lucky and Samael will deploy to Messenger 1 to support M.E.C.A Force.
--[X] If enemy is cleared, move to support Messenger 2.
-[X] Michael, Gabriel, and Aquila will deploy to Messenger 2 to relieve Judgement Core and the defenders.
--[X] If enemy is cleared, moved to support Messenger 1.
-[X] Skybound Gunship is to eliminate any enemy ground forces it can safely attack.
-[X] If ground forces are destroyed, focus all firepower on clearing any remaining Hell Beasts.
No. of Votes: 8
Plan: ◈Saviour
Plan: ◈savior
glitchrrr36
Gore17
justinkal
Kaustos
ReaperofInterest
Serous
UbeOne
yert

[X] Plan Labor Division
-[X] Solid Core will start by clearing out as many hostile ground forces as possible with a single Starshine.
-[X] Solid Core and Gabriel will then engage the Hell Beasts to clear out the airspace and free up Judgement Drive
-[X] Solid Drive will backup Judgement Drive. Their mission, once Judgement Drive is clear of the Hell Beasts, is to take out the Dark Star Summoners
-[X] James and Lucky will pair up and deploy to the rear Messenger to back up Judgement Core
-[X] Michael, Samael, and Aquila will deploy to the forwards Messenger to back up M.E.C.A Force
-[X] Skybound Gunship is to eliminate any enemy ground forces it can safely attack.
No. of Votes: 7
Plan: ◈Labor Division
B_Leandro
LostDeviljho
OmegaS
Sereg
tryrar
UberJJK
Vanguard_D

[X] Plan Judgment shoots from above.
-[X] Have Gabriel follow you as you fly out of the helicopter. Use Starshine to clear out the waves attacking the transport MECA is defending, that one has some nasties already reaching it. Stay there for a bit and attack the incoming waves while the gunship drops off Team GEAR.
-[X] Solid Drive should fly out to help Judgment Drive. Once the Beasts are dead they should go together to pick off the summoners.
-[X] The gunship should drop James, Aquila and Lucky off on MECA's Messenger. Aquila should focus on trying to hit the summoners, keep them from moving closer. Lucky should use her spells to hit large groups when possible. Once they're on the ground Solid Core should fly over to help Judgment Core. The gunship should then drop off Samael and Michael on the Judgment Core's Messenger.
-[X] Encourage Judgment Core to fly closer to wipe out the summoners.
-[X] Re-assess.
No. of Votes: 1
Plan: ◈Judgment shoots from above.
kelllogo

[x] Save Your EXP
No. of Votes: 1
LostDeviljho

Total No. of Voters: 16
 
OverReactionGuy said:
Sounds like fun times.

<---- Is a terrible person.
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Considering humanity is apparently going to rip itself apart anyway. Wail of Madness end is starting to look legit.
Gore17 said:
Gaia, who is explicitly an entire planet, has a Base Resilience 11,500,000, and Health of 35,000,000. Killing her would entire destroying the entire planet.
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Do you mean total obliteration of the planet, or would splitting it in half via something like a Severance aimed straight down (with the raw damage to meet the killing requirements) be enough? Cause it being split in half and falling apart vs. exploding violently are two pretty different things.
 
LostDeviljho said:
None of the missions would've ended well, in all likelihood.
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Yeah I could easily come up with a list of why each mission is a bad idea. e.g.

Canned Whoopass: Pits us against the Maidens of the Apocalypse again, and this time they are wise to our tricks and don't need to worry about Goddess White. To say nothing about how the last fight with them ended x.x

On the other hand no human wants Shiva-Sil to accomplish anything, whatever they want is almost by definition bad for Gaia and her children.

High Tide: Meeting the Reluxus garrison in open battle gives the UD reason and opportunity to kill us. Lots of both even.

Still, there's a lot of high-end Magical Girls there. Boosting them with Echo of Peace and Supremacy Zone helps keep them alive and growing.

Starborn: Escort Mission, full stop. These land barges are slow enough that it also invites our enemy to send something that they think will kill a Divinity level force while we're occupied. We may get to see INDESTRUCTIBLE CORE show off it's save from death function here.

The compelling reason for me was that I didn't want Judgment Core to die. Lets do foolish and impressive things, like try synchronizing spells with the plethora of Purity | Faith | Divinity Magical Girls that are present. I wonder what Sword Beam plus Celestial Severance looks like? Or Starshine and End Game?
 
kelllogo said:
High Tide: Meeting the Reluxus garrison in open battle gives the UD reason and opportunity to kill us. Lots of both even.

Still, there's a lot of high-end Magical Girls there. Boosting them with Echo of Peace and Supremacy Zone helps keep them alive and growing.
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Reminder what I was trying to convince Crys of after Gabby Prime's sheet was revealed. :evil:
 
LostDeviljho said:
Reminder what I was trying to convince Crys of after Gabby Prime's sheet was revealed. :evil:
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If what I think you're referring to is what you're actually referring to.... It better not be.

Besides, how would she not notice that her presence melted her 'allies'? On a happier note if Nepgear can use boosted flight to avoid getting hit more than once she could find out what Affinity Kill does :V. Can Solid Core use Core Purge if Purity is blocked? If yes she might be able to use it to ZOT the control seal with ~5000 damage.
 
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